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Didn't you see the US Women's Soccer team beat the Brazilian Men's Team in the World Cup Finals? Megan Rapinoe defeated the patriarchy that day and proved women are better than men in sports...or at least that's what the NY Times and Jemelle Hill said.Sorry, nothing personal, but even the best female basketball player wouldn't be able to make a men's D1 team.
And if the day comes that we have to handcuff this sport so a woman can have a feel good story about playing with Men.. then that'd the day I'll probably stop watching. Not out of rage or misogyny... but because the product will be so absolutely broken that it's no longer worth taking seriously.
Sorry, nothing personal, but even the best female basketball player wouldn't be able to make a men's D1 team.
And if the day comes that we have to handcuff this sport so a woman can have a feel good story about playing with Men.. then that'd the day I'll probably stop watching. Not out of rage or misogyny... but because the product will be so absolutely broken that it's no longer worth taking seriously.
Probably going to happen sooner than many of us might think. .I’m just waiting for a 6’8 230 pound elite 5 star stud to “iDeNtiFY” as a female and just go ham on women’s college basketball or the WNBA.
Biology isn't "woke," it doesn't give a damn about politics, and unless there's some radical hormonal manipulation involved (for what purpose, I can't fathom), biology will always call the tune on this one.I am the opposite of woke. I have seen women become kickers in lower level football competition. Let's face it, there are aspects of basketball where girls CAN compete with guys. Namely, shooting.
I prefer men and women have their own leagues, but that's not the society we live in now, and it's definitely not the society we'll be living in down the road.
And this is exactly the problem with today’s society. Progress, for the sake of “progress”, isn’t always progress. People don’t have the common sense to leave well enough alone anymore.I am the opposite of woke. I have seen women become kickers in lower level football competition. Let's face it, there are aspects of basketball where girls CAN compete with guys. Namely, shooting.
I prefer men and women have their own leagues, but that's not the society we live in now, and it's definitely not the society we'll be living in down the road.
I’m just waiting for a 6’8 230 pound elite 5 star stud to “iDeNtiFY” as a female and just go ham on women’s college basketball or the WNBA.
Rick Byrd would've made your kid a star!
But I'll go to Hoptown High for example. Coach Haworth, who is the coach of the #1 Louisville Male team now, had a run of 5 Region 2 titles in 6 years. He had 2 players who were athletically amazing.
One was a 6'5 player, JaQualis Matlock. All time leading scorer and rebounder at Hoptown. 4 straight years of playing at Rupp. An undersized 5 and not skilled enough to be a smallball 4, but one of the best players I've ever seen. 3 years of juco and he finally got to play at Eastern Illinois, a bottom D1 program but still D1.
They had a guard with a 40 inch vertical in Tre Edwards. He wasn't even a star to be rated. Got a spot at Murray and then moved on to some jucos...never could find a spot.
Those are the guys you find at the end of a D1 bench...guys who float around possible D2 or NAIA if the right spot doesn't come open. Guys with 40 inch verticals...that's the difference.
Biology isn't "woke," it doesn't give a damn about politics, and unless there's some radical hormonal manipulation involved (for what purpose, I can't fathom), biology will always call the tune on this one.
Now you're trolling. But I'll keep playing.Okay, guys. Relax. It ain't happening at UK or any other Division I program for a long, long time. And it won't be a sea change in the game because the vast majority of women will want to play with other women.
But you're kidding yourself if you think this barrier won't be broken at some point. Just like women in the military. Just like women in NASCAR and open wheel racing. Just like women in football. Some coach is going to give some girl a chance, just as an NBA team once gave a women's college player an invite to camp in the 1980s.
I have to admit, I'd want to watch to see how she handles herself. If she's money at the line in the final minute of a game, it might get really interesting.
??You 20 years ago: Women will never be allowed to serve in the military.
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The US started allowing women in the military literally more than 70 years ago.
And it only kind of furthers to the point, because to this day, they still have much lower entrance requirements, vastly higher injury rates, bring down the speed of every unit that they join, and have a 0% pass rate for the entrance exams for a number of the special operations units.
I think they're valuable in a number of operational roles, but when we're talking about boots on the ground, it's still a publicity stunt as far as I'm concerned. They will win 0% of hand to hand combat encounters and having one captured is a complete negotiating nightmare.
Now you're trolling. But I'll keep playing.
This is a skill barrier, not an opportunity barrier. This isn't about kicking an extra point or something to do with form...
When the MLB didn't allow black players, it was known that they could play better than white players. Name one woman who could be on a D1 roster?
Now lets say there was 1 female good enough to be on a D1 roster, ok? That woman would basically be a practice player and a Brad Calipari type role where everyone screams shoot at the end of the game.
That woman would be the best female athlete in the world more than likely. So...she'd choose to sit on a D1 bench...rather than be the star of a league where she could dominate and make a lot of money professionally and in endorsements?
So logistically...it just wouldn't make sense. Less play time, having to be in a separate locker-room, no chance at a pro career....
I don’t think the best player in women’s basket all could consistently compete against men at any level of college basketball.Have you ever watched women’s basketball? I doubt seriously that the best woman’s player in division I could make the roster of the worst team in men’s division I.
That would be great, if the ever get their wish and get any kind of equality pay I could see many people adopting that stance to take over the league.
Okay, guys. Relax. It ain't happening at UK or any other Division I program for a long, long time. And it won't be a sea change in the game because the vast majority of women will want to play with other women.
But you're kidding yourself if you think this barrier won't be broken at some point. Just like women in the military. Just like women in NASCAR and open wheel racing. Just like women in football. Some coach is going to give some girl a chance, just as an NBA team once gave a women's college player an invite to camp in the 1980s.
I have to admit, I'd want to watch to see how she handles herself. If she's money at the line in the final minute of a game, it might get really interesting.
What if she grew up playing with her brothers and had no interest in women's competition? And the girl from Oregon...Ionescu or something like that....you don't think she could play for a smaller school for the men's team? I don't know about you, but the modern game in my eyes has turned into glorified AAU ball. If you had a player like Ionescu who excelled at the basics and the fundamentals, and you were a coach who looked for those things...why not give her a shot? Again, this is all contingent on a female player coming along that WANTS to play with the men. But that day is coming.
Because there would be countless division II, division III, and NAIA men’s players who could do everything she could and more that you would take ahead of her.What if she grew up playing with her brothers and had no interest in women's competition? And the girl from Oregon...Ionescu or something like that....you don't think she could play for a smaller school for the men's team? I don't know about you, but the modern game in my eyes has turned into glorified AAU ball. If you had a player like Ionescu who excelled at the basics and the fundamentals, and you were a coach who looked for those things...why not give her a shot? Again, this is all contingent on a female player coming along that WANTS to play with the men. But that day is coming.
NoYes or no, will we see a woman play for a men's team in the next 10 years? Before you completely reject the idea, consider how good some of these girls are now at shooting. Why not have a 90 percent foul shooter on your bench? Hell some of them can dunk now.
All it will take is for a girl who wants to play with the guys and a coach willing to let her.
The best WNBA player is worse than the the worst player in the NBA
No. Dumb thread. There is women’s college basketball for women to play in.Yes or no, will we see a woman play for a men's team in the next 10 years? Before you completely reject the idea, consider how good some of these girls are now at shooting. Why not have a 90 percent foul shooter on your bench? Hell some of them can dunk now.
All it will take is for a girl who wants to play with the guys and a coach willing to let her.
There’s better arguments for you to use, that right there is straight trolling.What if she grew up playing with her brothers and had no interest in women's competition? And the girl from Oregon...Ionescu or something like that....you don't think she could play for a smaller school for the men's team? I don't know about you, but the modern game in my eyes has turned into glorified AAU ball. If you had a player like Ionescu who excelled at the basics and the fundamentals, and you were a coach who looked for those things...why not give her a shot? Again, this is all contingent on a female player coming along that WANTS to play with the men. But that day is coming.
Im not sure how the WNBA can expect their players to make anywhere near what NBA players make. The WNBA literally operates at a loss. NBA players make what they make because they bring in billions $. WNBA not so much.
Who would you consider to be the best WNBA player and the worst NBA player?
FIFYThe best WNBA player is worse than the the worst scholarship college player
What made me think of this was Kobe's daughter. Started thinking about how good a player she was going to be, and then I wondered if she would have wanted to play in the same league her dad did. They were so close. She wouldn't have made it in the NBA, but she could have played for Pepperdine or some school like that, gotten better against the boys, THEN settled for the WNBA.
They've been serving in the military a lot longer than 20 years, and the analogy is one step below absurd.You 20 years ago: Women will never be allowed to serve in the military.