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Someone give me something positive with the 2026 class. I know we are only 8 guys in, but that low of an average star, even this early, is just insanely low.

EDIT - a couple good responses. Appreciate some of the reasons.
 
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Not sure where that number came from we have 7 commits 5 are 3 stars and 2 are unranked (unevaluated).

We just got our 8th. We were at 2.14 average star ranking after 7 on Rivals. The 8th also has no stars at the moment, so that will drop us to 1.86 on Rivals.
 
We just got our 8th. We were at 2.14 average star ranking after 7 on Rivals. The 8th also has no stars at the moment, so that will drop us to 1.86 on Rivals.
It's really meaningless to include the unevaluated players in that calculation. It's more accurate to just look at the players that have been evaluated.
 
Average is hindered by having two players that aren't evaluated yet. McRay had offers from Oklahoma State and Texas Tech. So I'm sure he's a three star. Other linebacker has interest from USF. I'm not arguing they're Josh Allen, just that the 1.86 number is only temporary and will be 3.00.

Three of the recruits are 5.7 according to Rivals. That's bordering on 4 Star. A couple are in the top 500.

We have high interest from a QB that's making waves. Good qbs lift everyone up.

It's not good. But I expect it's not going to be a lost year.
 
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BT - do you really think we are pursuing 2* and less? C'mon...these guys are mostly going to be 3* and higher. Stop with the negative vibes so early in the process.
I imagine there are lots of schools that have signed guys who currently have no stars, but maybe not as many? Is the impact on us bigger than the impact on other schools at this time? I mean, we just got a commitment yesterday from a guy currently with 2 other FBS offers (Navy and UCF)…are we seeing something other schools aren’t seeing?

I’m genuinely curious.
 
Average is hindered by having two players that aren't evaluated yet. McRay had offers from Oklahoma State and Texas Tech. So I'm sure he's a three star. Other linebacker has interest from USF. I'm not arguing they're Josh Allen, just that the 1.86 number is only temporary and will be 3.00.

Three of the recruits are 5.7 according to Rivals. That's bordering on 4 Star. A couple are in the top 500.

We have high interest from a QB that's making waves. Good qbs lift everyone up.

It's not good. But I expect it's not going to be a lost year.
Appreciate the post. Makes me feel a little better.
 
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I imagine there are lots of schools that have signed guys who currently have no stars, but maybe not as many? Is the impact on us bigger than the impact on other schools at this time? I mean, we just got a commitment yesterday from a guy currently with 2 other FBS offers (Navy and UCF)…are we seeing something other schools aren’t seeing?

I’m genuinely curious.
I'm not one to say "I trust Stoops more than I trust Rivals". But I like seeing a couple of these every year. In a time of NIL and competing against SEC, it would be nice to find a couple starters we can save money on for more coveted players. You can't build a whole class on being that much smarter than everyone else.

Just a couple. And a strategy for where we are, not where we want to be

If you sort the team rankings by average star, and then go bottom up lol, there's a few others who seem to have done this. And gotta say, they're in the same tier of program you would expect (West Virginia, Mississippi State, Pitt, etc ..). So it's more necessity than from position of strength.
 
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Someone give me something positive with the 2026 class. I know we are only 8 guys in, but that low of an average star, even this early, is just insanely low.

EDIT - a couple good responses. Appreciate some of the reasons.

This board truly has tunnel vision. Your post, for example. Don't limit your assessment to one website's class rankings.

Learn to use all available material.
Take into account many points of view. Consider all available scouting evaluations, and watch some film yourself. Consider, especially, evaluations by pro evaluators who have actually seen the players.

I have done all of that. Here are my assessments, keeping in mind that I am a former football player but not an expert on scouting. I have watched film and read all of their available evaluations.

Jordan Crutchfield - outstanding prospect. Strong tackler. A killer in space. Superior size, excellent athleticism, surprisingly fast. Product of an area where hs football competition is excellent. Holds at least 6 SEC offers including FL and defensively-minded TX A&M. ESPN rates him as an "80" prospect.

Messiah Tilson - outstanding prospect. Adequate size, excellent speed. Great motor. He is from the greater Chicago area, where hs football competition is strong. Holds at least 6 B10 and 3 SEC offers. ESPN rates him as an "80" prospect.

Jarvis Strickland - excellent prospect. Great length, athletic, great feet. Scouting assessments are predicting an NFL career as a high draft choice. Holds at least 6 SEC and 4 B10 offers. ESPN rates him as a "79" prospect.

Davis McCray - solid prospect. Excellent length, good hands. He runs track at Cornerstone Christian hs. 100m, 200m, 400m, and long jump. So speed and athleticism are not issues. Athletic competition in TX at the hs level is excellent and McCray is a product of that competition. Among others, Miami, OK St, WA St, and Houston have already offered. Just guessing, it might become difficult to hold onto his commitment as his recruitment blows up in the fall, as it surely will.

Prince Jean - strong prospect who can play "Z" or play in the slot. Adequate size, excellent athleticism. Killer quickness and speed. Great motor. Intelligent, strong student. He is a product of a legendary hs football program in Valdosta. He holds 6 SEC offers including AL and GA but chose UK because he loves our coaching staff and our campus.

Deuce Alston - doesn't have a strong offer sheet, so I watched all the film I could find online. I immediately saw what Coach Boulware likes about him. He comes from a strong hs program. He has good size and strength. What REALLY stands out on film is his vision, quickness, and his second gear. He intelligently cuts back to daylight and accelerates. Then he outruns safeties and corners. He has a real second gear. Reminds me of CRod size-wise and running style, but faster and quicker than CRod. BTW nobody wanted CRod. He was also lightly recruited, like Deuce.

Max Mohring - in some ways, the most interesting commitment so far. The offer sheet is light although it means something that so many Ivy League schools want him. He is very intelligent. He is also big at 6'3" 215#. But the teller here is that he runs the 100 m dash for Malvern Prep! How many 215# guys can you name who run the 100 m dash? This is a big, fast, very intelligent player from an excellent prep school program. A great job of scouting by Coach White. But something has limited his Power 4 offers. Maybe he is overshadowed by other players like UK target Jackson Ford at Malvern Prep. Maybe Mohring will blow up in the fall. That will be interesting to watch.

Cameron Miller - here we have a true Power 5 project. He is big, thick, and strong in the upper body, with great feet. But too thin in the legs. His home state schools, IN and Purdue, badly wanted him. But the overall offer sheet is surprisingly light although he does hold 3 B10 offers plus TX Tech. He easily overpowers hs opponents. At the SEC level, he will need stronger, thicker legs. He needs to live in the gym and focus on a protein diet. Not an immediate contributor but has potentially big upside if he does the work.

Juco DT Seven Cloud is committed to GA but just visited UK last weekend, which begs the question whether his GA offer is committable. Coach Stewart is recruiting him.

Speedy slot receiver Larry Miles from Orlando appears to be down to UK, Pitt, and maybe NE. Miles just visited UK and is scheduled to visit NE this weekend. Miles reportedly holds at least 8 B10 and 4 SEC offers plus Miami and FL St. Coach Washington is recruiting him.

VA DB prospect Andre Clarke is reportedly down to UK and MI. Outstanding prospect who can play S or CB. UK is recruiting him as a CB. As of this moment, MI probably has the edge. Coaches White and Collins are recruiting him.

Looks like big LB Asharri Charles will probably pick Miami.

Watch this week's OVs. Several of these prospects are likely to end up in UK's class.

Keep in mind that UK is trending for Elite 11 QB Matt Ponatoski. Ponatoski will visit OR soon. Unless OR mesmerizes him, it will be UK versus the MLB draft next month. Ponatoski will be in line for a healthy NIL package in Lexington. Coach Hamdan is personally recruiting Ponatoski.
 
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We just got our 8th. We were at 2.14 average star ranking after 7 on Rivals. The 8th also has no stars at the moment, so that will drop us to 1.86 on Rivals.
Rivals tends to eventually do a 3-star 5.5 minimum rating across the board for the over 90% of Power 4 commits (probably closer to 98-99% of all SEC commits - except unknown kickers, who often get 5.4 2-stars). The ones who usually don't get this bump are recruits that commit after Rivals' final bump cycle before moving on to the next year's class. For commits to other schools like Kent State, arguably the worst team in FBS, even all their guys get bumps to 2-stars minimum.

I would be willing to wager that all these players will eventually 3-star rating minimum if they keep their commitments to UK. Rivals doesn't actually evaluate all these guys. They just defer to the judgment of the coaches recruiting these guys. BOOM, "3-stars across the board because the SEC coaches evaluated and we're not going to risk looking bad by giving a 2-star rating to an SEC guy."
 
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This board truly has tunnel vision. Your post, for example. Don't limit your assessment to one website's class rankings.

Learn to use all available material.
Take into account many points of view. Consider all available scouting evaluations, and watch some film yourself. Consider, especially, evaluations by pro evaluators who have actually seen the players.

I have done all of that. Here are my assessments, keeping in mind that I am a former football player but not an expert on scouting. I have watched film and read all of their available evaluations.

Jordan Crutchfield - outstanding prospect. Strong tackler. A killer in space. Superior size, excellent athleticism, surprisingly fast. Product of an area where hs football competition is excellent. Holds at least 6 SEC offers including FL and defensively-minded TX A&M. ESPN rates him as an "80" prospect.

Messiah Tilson - outstanding prospect. Adequate size, excellent speed. Great motor. He is from the greater Chicago area, where his football competition is strong. Holds at least 6 B10 and 3 SEC offers. ESPN rates him as an "80" prospect.

Jarvis Strickland - excellent prospect. Great length, athletic, great feet. Scouting assessments are predicting an NFL career as a high draft choice. Holds at least 6 SEC and 4 B10 offers. ESPN rates him as a "79" prospect.

Davis McCray - solid prospect. Excellent length, good hands. He runs track at Cornerstone Christian hs. 100m, 200m, 400m, and long jump. So speed and athleticism are not issues. Athletic competition in TX at the hs level is excellent and McCray is a product of that competition. Among others, Miami, OK St, WA St, and Houston have already offered. Just guessing, it might become difficult to hold onto his commitment as his recruitment blows up in the fall, as it surely will.

Prince Jean - strong prospect who can play "Z" or play in the slot. Adequate size, excellent athleticism. Killer quickness and speed. Great motor. Intelligent, strong student. He is a product of a legendary hs football program in Valdosta. He holds 6 SEC offers including AL and GA but chose UK because he loves our coaching staff and our campus.

Deuce Alston - doesn't have a strong offer sheet, so I watched all the film I could find online. I immediately saw what Coach Boulware likes about him. He comes from a strong hs program. He has good size and strength. What REALLY stands out on film is his vision, quickness, and his second gear. He intelligently cuts back to daylight and accelerates. Then he outruns safeties and corners. He has a real second gear. Reminds me of CRod size-wise and running style, but faster and quicker than CRod. BTW nobody wanted CRod. He was also lightly recruited, like Deuce.

Max Mohring - in some ways, the most interesting commitment so far. The offer sheet is light although it means something that so many Ivy League schools want him. He is very intelligent. He is also big at 6'3" 215#. But the teller here is that he runs the 100 m dash for Malvern Prep! How many 215# guys can you name who run the 100 m dash? This is a big, fast, very intelligent player from an excellent prep school program. A great job of scouting by Coach White. But something has limited his Power 4 offers. Maybe he is overshadowed by other players like UK target Jackson Ford at Malvern Prep. Maybe Mohring will blow up in the fall. That will be interesting to watch.

Cameron Miller - here we have a true Power 5 project. He is big, thick, and strong in the upper body, with great feet. But too thin in the legs. His home state schools, IN and Purdue, badly wanted him. But the overall offer sheet is surprisingly light although he does hold 3 B10 offers plus TX Tech. He easily overpowers hs opponents. At the SEC level, he will need stronger, thicker legs. He needs to live in the gym and focus on a protein diet. Not an immediate contributor but has potentially big upside if he does the work.

Juco DT Seven Cloud is committed to GA but just visited UK last weekend, which begs the question whether his GA offer is committable. Coach Stewart is recruiting him.

Speedy slot receiver Larry Miles from Orlando appears to be down to UK, Pitt, and maybe NE. Miles just visited UK and is scheduled to visit NE this weekend. Miles reportedly holds at least 8 B10 and 4 SEC offers plus Miami and FL St. Coach Washington is recruiting him.

VA DB prospect Andre Clarke is reportedly down to UK and MI. Outstanding prospect who can play S or CB. UK is recruiting him as a CB. As of this moment, MI probably has the edge. Coaches White and Collins are recruiting him.

Looks like big LB Asharri Charles will probably pick Miami.

Watch this week's OVs. Several of these prospects are likely to end up in UK's class.

Keep in mind that UK is trending for Elite 11 QB Matt Ponatoski. Ponatoski will visit OR soon. Unless OR mesmerizes him, it will be UK versus the MLB draft next month. Ponatoski will be in line for a healthy NIL package in Lexington. Coach Hamdan is personally recruiting Ponatoski.
Yes. Use all the available services. Sure, Rivals had us with the 75th best class. But 24/7 has us with 63rd best class. We might not suck, we could kinda suck. And many players have to sign with us because other Power 4 schools are about finished up. Well probably pass Memphis and Cincinnati and end up in top 45 Watch your 6, Mississippi State and Vanderbilt. Also, don't forget everyone Kentucky signs is awesome. Unlike every other high school recruit, these guys are fast and strong and play football at good schools.
 
Yes. Use all the available services. Sure, Rivals had us with the 75th best class. But 24/7 has us with 63rd best class. We might not suck, we could kinda suck. And many players have to sign with us because other Power 4 schools are about finished up. Well probably pass Memphis and Cincinnati and end up in top 45 Watch your 6, Mississippi State and Vanderbilt. Also, don't forget everyone Kentucky signs is awesome. Unlike every other high school recruit, these guys are fast and strong and play football at good schools.

Any reasonable person knows that you can't judge a December class the previous June. Any student of history knows that Stoops signs top 30 classes, but our fans cramp up every June and July with impulsive leaps to judgment over partially formed classes. It doesn't matter one iota what the class ranking is, based on 8 players in June. Check back in December.

You mock my evaluations. Why bother? I have done the work. You haven't. Your knowledge of recruiting is a June online class ranking.

BTW, OR has the 38th ranked class and AL has the 47th ranked class. Is that credible? No. And you know it, but you can't pass up a chance to take a cheap shot at UK's recruiting.

And were Benny Snell and Josh Allen highly ranked? No.

June and July class rankings are click bait for bored people. Internet class rankings don't put any points on the scoreboard. But since you like class rankings, do you give Stoops any credit for his transfer portal class?
 
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The star grade system is definitely part of the total package, but I've started to look at offer sheets as well.
Where Kentucky has historical lyrics fallen behind is depth. To be real, EVERYBODY is going to feel that burn now thanks to the transfer portal. The days of 5 stars riding the bench at "theirdreamschool university" are over. Throw in NIL and it's another nail in the coffin. What we COULD see is a team like theOSU breaking the bank every year to load. I'm not sure even Alabama can handle a head to head for years against Ohio State and Texas.
 
The star grade system is definitely part of the total package, but I've started to look at offer sheets as well.

That's progress for you. And, yes, I am aware that you have been generous in your support. That's laudable. In any case, coaches know a great deal more about talent evaluation than online commenters do. Offer sheets tell us who coaching staffs have decided to offer so far. But they don't tell us what coaching staffs will decide between now and December.

June class rankings are completely meaningless, because the class signs in December, not June. Six months of recruiting left. Check back then.

Where Kentucky has historical lyrics fallen behind is depth.

Sometimes true.

To be real, EVERYBODY is going to feel that burn now thanks to the transfer portal. The days of 5 stars riding the bench at "theirdreamschool university" are over.

This will sometimes be true anecdotally. It isn't ubiquitous.

Throw in NIL and it's another nail in the coffin.

I don't quite get the "nail in the coffin" analogy. Nobody is dying because of NIL. But NIL has changed college athletics fundamentally, for sure. I don't think it's impact on the transfer portal preferentially impacts 5-stars. Probably the other way around, because lower ranked prospects are more likely to get access to significantly more NIL money through the portal. Whereas 5-stars, when they transfer, usually move to increase their playing time (Kendrick Law, Keyshawn Silver, Brock Vandagriff).

What we COULD see is a team like theOSU breaking the bank every year to load. I'm not sure even Alabama can handle a head to head for years against Ohio State and Texas.

Of course, you are right about the wealth of OH St, TX, and AL. And AL holds their own. Don't worry about them. But you might be surprised which other schools have the capacity to match these three in terms of wealthy boosters capable of bringing NIL $$ to bear. This omits other factors that anecdotally affect decisions of many players, such as chemistry with coaching staffs, preferences for certain academic strengths at a school, family preferences and traditions, subjective feelings about the campus and city, and so forth. Just because some players go for the $$, that certainly doesn't mean $$ dominate every player's decision. I could give examples. But you are NIL savvy so you know this.
 
It's really meaningless to include the unevaluated players in that calculation. It's more accurate to just look at the players that have been evaluated.
Is there a five star hiding in those unevaluated players? Bunch of 1 to 3's at best.
 
I would be willing to wager that all these players will eventually 3-star rating minimum if they keep their commitments to UK. Rivals doesn't actually evaluate all these guys. They just defer to the judgment of the coaches recruiting these guys. BOOM, "3-stars across the board because the SEC coaches evaluated and we're not going to risk looking bad by giving a 2-star rating to an SEC guy."
Truth and Rivals doesn't know if an offer is a take or not until it's closer to crunch time.
 
We usually start recruiting with some four stars and the only four star has now decommitted and is almost certain for Louisville. We have no in state recruits so far. Anyone who does not see that the offer sheets for our recruits is not up to what we have seen in previous years is just not looking close enough. The bottom line is that two straight losing seasons and a coach on the hot seat is affecting recruiting in a major way .

The program is trending down and without a winning season it will continue to trend down. And with that goes attendance and NIL money. Stoops is on the hot seat and must show dramatic improvement in his program given all of the changes and instability . 2025 is a make or break year.
 
just another couple of obvious things to point out in what has become our year round recruiting discussion:

We have unfortunately learned that a players star ranking doesnt always progress with that player. we have had some high ranked players that for various reasons just didnt make it. One of the highest ranked classes I can recall was based on the fact that two players were very highly ranked. Unfortunately they were both quarterbacks....so they werent on the field at the same time. one of the young guys ended up having shoulder surgery, the other regressed....and I seem to recall that was Morgan Newton.
We have had few earth shaker recruits....and at times they simply didnt live up to the ranking.
On the other hand, those three star recruits have become the backbone of the team as they developed.....

I think it was Paterno that said one time recruits are one of three types: those that are a bit better than you thought, those just about what you thought they were, and those that just didnt work out. About one third each. Now throw into that mix that some players simply dont fit into a coach's system. We painfully experienced that when we tried to turn road grader offensive linemen into dancing bears that were pass blockers ( something our linemen have been woefully inadequate at going back to Rich Brooks days up till today).
I have continually poor mouthed our Tight End group because they have seldom lived up to the (Morrow) hype. Truth is, we likely want
guys that are primarily blockers that have the occaisional five yard reception. AND THATS FINE as long as they can do that.
This year's success....whatever it is....will lean on an improved offensive line.
I will wait till another day in the near future to whine about our bend not break defense. Dead horses get tired of being beaten.
 
One of the highest ranked classes I can recall was based on the fact that two players were very highly ranked. Unfortunately they were both quarterbacks....so they werent on the field at the same time. one of the young guys ended up having shoulder surgery, the other regressed....and I seem to recall that was Morgan Newton.
Ryan Mossakowski was the other QB.
 
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just another couple of obvious things to point out in what has become our year round recruiting discussion:

We have unfortunately learned that a players star ranking doesnt always progress with that player. we have had some high ranked players that for various reasons just didnt make it. One of the highest ranked classes I can recall was based on the fact that two players were very highly ranked. Unfortunately they were both quarterbacks....so they werent on the field at the same time. one of the young guys ended up having shoulder surgery, the other regressed....and I seem to recall that was Morgan Newton.
We have had few earth shaker recruits....and at times they simply didnt live up to the ranking.
On the other hand, those three star recruits have become the backbone of the team as they developed.....

I think it was Paterno that said one time recruits are one of three types: those that are a bit better than you thought, those just about what you thought they were, and those that just didnt work out. About one third each. Now throw into that mix that some players simply dont fit into a coach's system. We painfully experienced that when we tried to turn road grader offensive linemen into dancing bears that were pass blockers ( something our linemen have been woefully inadequate at going back to Rich Brooks days up till today).
I have continually poor mouthed our Tight End group because they have seldom lived up to the (Morrow) hype. Truth is, we likely want
guys that are primarily blockers that have the occaisional five yard reception. AND THATS FINE as long as they can do that.
This year's success....whatever it is....will lean on an improved offensive line.
I will wait till another day in the near future to whine about our bend not break defense. Dead horses get tired of being beaten.
While a players star ranking doesn’t matter to an extent, there is a clear correlation between recruiting rankings and success in the field in college football. Are there exceptions here and there? Sure. But take a look at teams that are consistently ranked in the top 25 in recruiting and take a look at the teams that are consistently ranked in the polls. Recruiting rankings matter.
 
Down to 1.71 star ranking per recruit. 3rd worst in power 4 football.

I know some will say it’s bc we have guys who haven’t been evaluated. Don’t all of these others schools have these type of players committed to?
 
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Down to 1.71 star ranking per recruit. 3rd worst in power 4 football.

I know some will say it’s bc we have guys who haven’t been evaluated. Don’t all of these others schools have these type of players committed to?
Yes, several schools have unrated players committed, but most of those schools also have at least twice as many commitments. Arkansas is currently ranked #17 overall, and there is nothing super special about their class compared to ours. They have a few 4-star guys, and we might be adding some soon. Just going to see how those rankings shake out when we get our aggregate number up.
 
I wonder why Missouri only has 4 commits? Of the 4, it looks high quality with 3 4-star recruits. They are ranked only one spot ahead of UK in-conference because of the lack of aggregate numbers.

 
just another couple of obvious things to point out in what has become our year round recruiting discussion:

We have unfortunately learned that a players star ranking doesnt always progress with that player. we have had some high ranked players that for various reasons just didnt make it. One of the highest ranked classes I can recall was based on the fact that two players were very highly ranked. Unfortunately they were both quarterbacks....so they werent on the field at the same time. one of the young guys ended up having shoulder surgery, the other regressed....and I seem to recall that was Morgan Newton.
We have had few earth shaker recruits....and at times they simply didnt live up to the ranking.
On the other hand, those three star recruits have become the backbone of the team as they developed.....
So that is why almost all of Alabama and Georgia's recruits are four and five star with very few three star and no two stars. Same for OSU and other top 10 schools.
 
Any reasonable person knows that you can't judge a December class the previous June. Any student of history knows that Stoops signs top 30 classes, but our fans cramp up every June and July with impulsive leaps to judgment over partially formed classes. It doesn't matter one iota what the class ranking is, based on 8 players in June. Check back in December.

You mock my evaluations. Why bother? I have done the work. You haven't. Your knowledge of recruiting is a June online class ranking.

BTW, OR has the 38th ranked class and AL has the 47th ranked class. Is that credible? No. And you know it, but you can't pass up a chance to take a cheap shot at UK's recruiting.

And were Benny Snell and Josh Allen highly ranked? No.

June and July class rankings are click bait for bored people. Internet class rankings don't put any points on the scoreboard. But since you like class rankings, do you give Stoops any credit for his transfer portal class?

Yes, Vince Marrow and Mark Stoops has signed top 30 classes. I remember one June/July they had the top ranked class. But Marrow isn't here anymore. With so little in state talent that could help improve it. I've not seen it start this poorly, with these headwinds.

Oregon at 26 and Alabama at 44? How is that relatable to Kentucky at now 83. I could see those schools climbing to Top 15, yes. They are in on very top ranked players who win football games. We are on one.

Do I give Stoops credit for transfer portal? No, not the one we're going in to this season with. When we've had portal success on the field, it's been with players who were supposed to be good. I can't think of many surprises. Well, we got one great player from Arkansas. And the rest are some guys who did ok in the MAC and MWC.
 
Besides Will Levas and Wandale and Ray Davis who have our all SEC portal players been? We have not pulled in top linemen on either side of the ball.
 
Yes, Vince Marrow and Mark Stoops has signed top 30 classes. I remember one June/July they had the top ranked class. But Marrow isn't here anymore. With so little in state talent that could help improve it. I've not seen it start this poorly, with these headwinds.

Oregon at 26 and Alabama at 44? How is that relatable to Kentucky at now 83. I could see those schools climbing to Top 15, yes. They are in on very top ranked players who win football games. We are on one.

Do I give Stoops credit for transfer portal? No, not the one we're going in to this season with. When we've had portal success on the field, it's been with players who were supposed to be good. I can't think of many surprises. Well, we got one great player from Arkansas. And the rest are some guys who did ok in the MAC and MWC.

That's your perspective. I largely disagree with your basic premise, and don't think you are assessing the situation with accurate granularity.

But I also have to say this at the same time. On paper, Stoops has done a good job of plugging the most important leaks in the roster through the portal. But football is unpredictable because of mistakes, injuries, and human willpower at key moments. Many games are decided by 4-5 plays. Having a whole bunch of new players at critical positions presents its own set of unknowns. For whatever reason, if Stoops puts up another 4-8 season, he is finished at UK. I don't doubt that UK's Board of Trustees would decide to start over with Sumrall or someone else a year from now under those circumstances. I won't try to convince you of anything, since my perspective on the situation is very different from yours.
 
Is there a five star hiding in those unevaluated players? Bunch of 1 to 3's at best.
I think some recruiting services had not evaluated Josh Hines-Allen at the time of his commitment. He was “bumped” to a 5.5 3 Star on Rivals, after choosing us over Monmouth.

You just never know. There is a correlation between Stars and success, but with many, many holes.

No HS recruiting or transfer rankings anticipated IU and Iowa State U’s first ten win seasons, last year, or IU’s Play Off appearance.
 
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The star ranking is just a projection, of what a player could develop into as a college football player. Remember these are 16 year old kids they are evaluating. A lot can happen over the next few years - coaching, work ethic, health etc. many things involved not just raw observable talent as a HS junior.
 
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Landon young, drake Jackson, Luke fortner, Darrian Kinnard, Josh Pascal, Josh Allen, Deone Walker. To name a few on each side of the line.
None of those guys were portal players though.

We had some incoming transfers that we were all very excited about, but many of them just didn't do what we expected them to do. Silver was a high end transfer on the DLine. Dumas-Johnson was good, even though he wasn't "All-SEC". Everybody was very excited about Vandagriff. There's been some others, but nobody was downing them when they committed. It was quite the opposite with a lot of optimism going into last season.
 
None of those guys were portal players though.

We had some incoming transfers that we were all very excited about, but many of them just didn't do what we expected them to do. Dumas-Johnson was good, even though he wasn't "All-SEC". Everybody was excited about Vandagriff. There's been some others, but nobody was downing them when they committed. It was quite the opposite with a lot of optimism going into last season.
What are you talking about? The guy asked who was All SEC at UK, then said UK had never had an All Sec lineman on either side of the ball. What does that have to do with the portal? 😂
 
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