Haven’t verified this, but pretty wild allegation.
22 calls from one ref all against UK?
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Startling if true.
But I have no idea who Grant Peters is … so I think I may need some independent corroboration of that claim before presuming his tweet correct.
But I have no idea who Grant Peters is … so I think I may need some independent corroboration of that claim before presuming his tweet correct.
The second post in this guys thread show where apparently this guy ranked higher than Tim Donahue when in the NBA at covering overs, one of just 2 people to rank higher than him… hmmm
If true, there’s a 100% chance he or a friend took the A&M money line. That’s a bold accusation though
Right. Pretty sensational claim but it jibes with what a lot of us thought we were seeing.
This is almost mathematically impossible unless bias.
Crazy if true and should be but won't be looked into!
On that particular call. There was a ref standing even closer and he didn’t call anything. It was a simple block out. And the ball went over both their heads and reef grabbed it. How do you call? That foul is beyond me
Shouldn’t be hard to verify, if somebody out there is willing to go back through the tape.
That foul on Reeves under the basket was a Higgins-level blown call. Combine that with the several missed A&M travels, Mitchell's phantom foul under the basket, and Rob getting no calls while getting murdered going to the rim, and it was some of the worst officiating I've seen in one of our games this year...which is saying a lot.
We didn't deserve to win this game, but the officiating was definitely a factor. It would be disingenuous to say otherwise.
We didn't deserve to win this game, but the officiating was definitely a factor. It would be disingenuous to say otherwise.
SEC refs suck, and they all seem to hate Cal. It’s a bad combo.
It was horrific. Ultimately the game means nothing but it takes all the fun out of watching it if you're gonna just automatically level the playing field. I'll skip out on the sec tourney if they're just gonna use it to sneak extra teams in the big one
The video in his clip which was reeves 4th foul call was a huge turning point in the game. Instead of having the ball down 10, they hit a 3 after retaining possession to push lead to 13. Just seemed to tip the momentum in their favor there. Horrible foul call on reeves.
This is true. Bald black guy that looks a lot like Phat Adams. At one point you saw Cal barking at him and he was just staring off just like Phat Adams does when Cal is ripping his ass.
The calls aren’t all that influence games. The NO CALLS on both ends are strategic. These refs know what they are doing and when to call or not call things. They spend a lot of brain time thinking about periodic momentum shifts and how they can interject themselves into that flow.
Sports gambling is ruining all sports. You will never convince me that refs don’t manipulate games to align with their anonymous gambling. Or are paid under the table for influencing the game to go a certain way (Vegas). Or paid bonuses by the SEC to influence games to get bubble teams into the dance.
The calls aren’t all that influence games. The NO CALLS on both ends are strategic. These refs know what they are doing and when to call or not call things. They spend a lot of brain time thinking about periodic momentum shifts and how they can interject themselves into that flow.
Sports gambling is ruining all sports. You will never convince me that refs don’t manipulate games to align with their anonymous gambling. Or are paid under the table for influencing the game to go a certain way (Vegas). Or paid bonuses by the SEC to influence games to get bubble teams into the dance.
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Next year you have west coast teams playing in the ACC. Why the heck do we need conference affiliated refs? Don’t tell me it is about travel if west coast teams play on east coast. Refs should rotate conferences weekly so all refs get a shot at all conferences. This may eliminate some bias. 🤷♂️
We are a good gamble in Vegas. I think we need to understand that before saying they just hate Cal. All coaches rip the refs, even K did it. This is about the money line and how much Vegas can make off of the lost bets if we lose. I believe certain refs are paid by Vegas bookies or massive organizations to influence game outcomes.
You will be happy to know that we have lost 3 out of the last 4 games this guy has officiated.
I think both can be true. But I absolutely think refs hate Cal and it’s a factor.
And the SEC assigning refs to manipulate games to get a couple more SEC teams into the dance. How much does the SEC get for each team making the tournament?
I don’t know, but it’s exhausting watching other leagues bend over backwards to protect their cash cows, while the SEC screws us. Imagine them trying to do that to Bama in football, their fans would burn everything to the ground.
If that isn't enough to open an investigation, nothing is.
This is a big factor, too. I think it was KSR who said for the KSU game, Cal came out ready to fight with the ref (who was one of Higgins’ buddies).
The refs were terrible. Our preparation, coaching, and adjustments during the game were worse.
Yep I told my wife last night, just wait until we turn on the TV for today’s SEC games. The place will be empty. The SEC just sent home an entire stadium full of fans spending money on merch, perking up that area’s weekend economy, and making the stadium exciting.
There aren’t enough fans of the remaining teams to even fill that place now that we are done.
Couch is insufferable and has brought a lot of it on himself with his tongue.
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During the game I recognized he was making A LOT of the calls against UK. Had no idea it was this bad. Shows by comparison didn't hurt us nearly as bad
I see some people are waking up..
You can have a "C" game and still win. Uconn gave up 90, they certainly didn't play their "A" game.. yet they won.
You shouldn't have to play perfect to win. Cal can still have bad outings, and get the win in the end. We don't seem to be afforded that. We didn't play great of course, but we still played well enough, IMO, that this should have been a win, but the officiating was a difference maker, once again tonight.
You can have a "C" game and still win. Uconn gave up 90, they certainly didn't play their "A" game.. yet they won.
You shouldn't have to play perfect to win. Cal can still have bad outings, and get the win in the end. We don't seem to be afforded that. We didn't play great of course, but we still played well enough, IMO, that this should have been a win, but the officiating was a difference maker, once again tonight.
Couch is an insufferable asshole and has brought a lot of it on himself with his tongue.
I got bad news for you if you're hoping Dan Hurley is our next coach..
Also our own fans went after officials. We stepped in it ourselves. Hard to blame Cal for the calls when we might be the most loathed fanbase in the eyes of the refs.
1st half foul disparity shows everything how the game was managed. There were no consistency.. kills the momentum..
This might be post of the year.
I'm not a big conspiracy guy, but that doesn't mean that some conspiracies don't have merit.
I work with a guy who used to play D2 ball and refs a lot of high school games. The last few years he's reffed several A10 games, mostly in Dayton. I think he makes about $300/gm. I'd imagine power 5 refs make no more than $1k/gm. You telling me that 100% of these refs wouldn't be tempted by thousands of potential dollars that can be made by "missing" a few calls per game with zero accountability after the fact?
There needs to be a serious investigation into college basketball officiating. Incompetence can't account for all of this.
I read the SEC makes approx $2M per NCAA tourney game that contains an SEC team
And why did our fans go after officials?
Rhetorical question of course. It was bad before that. We kept getting screwed over in the biggest games by the same guy. Why was it happening then?
And that official no longer calls Kentucky games.
Did it us help to go to such measures?
Both are true. This game was exactly like the previous game with A&M, we changed nothing defensively and they did the same thing offensively and we had the same result. Although the refs sucked I'm not going to complain about them because we got exactly what we deserved.
Man…..I need to know if this is actually true or not, but I don’t want to go back and watch another abomination of a game.
The design is no accountability. That couldn’t go anything but wrong - if your goal is a fair and honest outcome.
Wasn't he the guy that called OOBs on Reed when the Tamu player clearly tipped it? It was overturned by another official
The point is you can't condone one and allow the other. I'd make the argument that SINCE that incident, the calls have gotten even worse.
Btw, I love what we did to Higgins. I think refs SHOULD be challenged. Too bad the NCAA can't do its job properly. But unfortunately, there are consequences.
Either way, Cal is far from the worst agitator with the officials. I think the calls are more because the NCAA doesn't like the way we build our teams and needs to keep NBA-level players from dominating the sport. It also doesn't want to see UK win because that puts a thorn in the side of UNC and Duke. Lastly, there's a clear grudge between Emmert and UK (and he still has plenty of ties and constituents with the NCAA).
If Cal is getting this treatment because he yells at officials.. then what about the other 360 D1 coaches.. many of whom are worse?
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