My favorite part is “the Lord told them to do a home remodel”. This is just an example of why many question Christians and Christianity.
“Pastor” is a con artist.
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Kenneth Copeland and Joel Osteen are somewhere rolling their eyes at that weak haul.
Its like people in general are terrible...
Reminds me a little of Oral Robert’s telling everyone to send him money or “God would kill him”
There’s a difference between biblical Christianity and false teachers …they are not of the same faith.
Abusing a religion; ANY religion, to manipulate others for financial gain...
I never saw this coming.
I never saw this coming.
It’s all the same scam, bro. Islam, Jeebus, whatever. Same con has been happening since men didn’t know what the sun was and invented a dude in the sky to explain it.
I mean, that’s probably the most fundamentally sound description of religion I’ve ever seen. High five sir.
Not sure you and I are QUITE on the same page, because I said ABUSING a religion. Not necessarily religion, in and of itself.
Fair. I’m not anti Christian or anti Islam or anti catholic. I think they’re all equally despicable.
If it's any consolation (and I'm a self-professed Christian, hard as that might be to believe), Jesus Christ wasn't very big on organized religion either. He was pretty outspoken about it LOL. According to the New Testament, that's what got him into hot water. He wasn't rabble-rousing about the government, it was the olden day versions of Jim Bakker, Jerry Falwell, Oral Roberts, Westboro Baptist church etc.
I'm not trying to convert anyone here, I'm just trying to separate the messenger/message, and the vile, self-serving con artists (sometimes individuals, and sometimes enormous conglomerations) that twisted it for gain.
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I'm not trying to convert anyone here, I'm just trying to separate the messenger/message, and the vile, self-serving con artists (sometimes individuals, and sometimes enormous conglomerations) that twisted it for gain.
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It was the legendary philosopher Bono who once riffed, "The God I know ain't short on cash." Learn.
I think it's nuts to give anything to a mega church or tv pastor. Even if they started out with their heart in the right place, they eventually at some point cross a threshold where they're just another marketer, except their product is jesus.
Pastor might be a con artist, but it’s a great taco filling.
This isn't an example at all. A pastor/priest/etc....is as much a sinner as you or I. When we put others on unsustainable pedestals that is our problem.
Sure it is. When those "pastors" who are supposed to lead their church do stuff like this, it opens the door for doubt. Pastors are supposed to be the examples that others follow in their religion. They aren't on a pedestal at all. However, when they do stuff like this (and even more importantly don't own up to but rather try to dismiss their behavior), people rightfully question Christians and Christianity. That doesn't even bring into consideration people like Kim Davis who use religion as an excuse for hate and bigotry.
Stories like this remind me of the original gangster pastor Ernest Angley, that guy ran the biggest scam for years on Sunday morning TV 🍺
I'm not religious, but to say: "This is why many question Christians" is pretty low reasoning.
How many pastors are there in this country? Thousands and thousands?
If a doctor gets charged with Medicare fraud do you say "welp, no more medical care for me, they can't be trusted. Essential oils only!"
How many pastors are there in this country? Thousands and thousands?
If a doctor gets charged with Medicare fraud do you say "welp, no more medical care for me, they can't be trusted. Essential oils only!"
The difference is there are countless examples of "pastors" doing things that aren't god like. Very few doctors get charged with medicare fraud. Those that do normally lose their license and are no longer able to practice medicine.
Ok, mission accomplished. This pastor is proof Christianity and religion are a scam. Well done! Go enjoy a Pepsi and rejoice for the rest of the day, your work is done!
I didn't say it was proof or that Christianity/religion was a scam. I simply said pastors like him are a reason why people question Christianity and Christians. There are many more but incidents like this are part of why.
This seems strange to me. I would think his actions would cause us to question him and his actions.
And by default Christians because he is supposed to be that example of Christianity. Then throw in that he is attempting to excuse his behavior by saying "God told him to do a home remodel".
Have at it but his being white had nothing to do with his con job. He specifically said God told him to set up this crypto and to use his congregation to help. That is using Christianity/religion as an excuse. I question white people daily because of what they do not because they are white unless they use being white as and excuse to justify their behavior like this guy did with Christianity.
