I agree with you. Cincinnati needs proven commodities on the offensive line and then fill other areas through the draft.
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I can’t either. I didn’t think Carman was all that bad when he was in there, but he must’ve been or else he would’ve been playing.
I know one of the games he started, can't remember which one, he played well. The game after he went out with a back problem, and it was all downhill from there.
My orange and black tinted glasses hope is that he needs more time adjusting from tackle to guard. Maybe this offseason will be big for him. Reports were he showed up to camp overweight so some red flags there on that front but time will tell. Hopefully he can be an average starter for us.
I’d like to see them make a play for Brandon Scherff, Pro Bowler and didn’t give up a single sack last year in Washington.
No doubt. Big upgrade.
I'd like to sign a proven corner in free agency as well. Going to be several on the market including JC Jackson, Stephon Gilmore, and possibly Charlton Davis if TB doesn't franchise tag him which they probably will. Doubt we would spend the money for those guys but we could get a guy like Steven Nelson from Pittsburgh as TJ Watt cleaned them out. There are several others that could instantly start for us.
The more you can draft to add depth the better off you are, obviously.
Re: the Carman talk. He was a projected 3rd rounder at best (seen him projected as low as 5-6) so I was stunned when we took a guy in the 2nd round that would have been there in the 3rd or later.
The more you can draft to add depth the better off you are, obviously.
Re: the Carman talk. He was a projected 3rd rounder at best (seen him projected as low as 5-6) so I was stunned when we took a guy in the 2nd round that would have been there in the 3rd or later.
You may be right about that stuff, but we are clearly playing backups at RG and RT. We've got to address that.
PFF which I read a lot has the guy I want c Tyler Linderbaum going to Dallas at 24 and us taking IOL Kenyon Green from A&M. Sounds like a pretty versatile guy to bring in:
The dream scenario. The Bengals badly need offensive line help that can step in right away. The good news is that Green has shown he can start anywhere, as he logged reps at every position except center this season.
The dream scenario. The Bengals badly need offensive line help that can step in right away. The good news is that Green has shown he can start anywhere, as he logged reps at every position except center this season.
PFF says this about Linderbaum:
Linderbaum may slide because of his size at 290 pounds, but he shouldn’t. The Cowboys would happily reinvest in their offensive line after things fell apart down the stretch last year. Linderbaum would bring Travis Frederick levels of assuredness to the position.
That's what I am hoping. If he does slide we've got to be sitting on him. No question about it.
Linderbaum may slide because of his size at 290 pounds, but he shouldn’t. The Cowboys would happily reinvest in their offensive line after things fell apart down the stretch last year. Linderbaum would bring Travis Frederick levels of assuredness to the position.
That's what I am hoping. If he does slide we've got to be sitting on him. No question about it.
I listened to Tony and Mo yesterday (ESPN Cincinnati) and they were breaking down Bengal Super Bowl PFF grades. They got to OL. Isiah Prince had a TWO POINT FOUR in pass protection 😆 I think you get 3 points just for running on the field with your helmet on.
It was the worst performance by an offensive line in Super Bowl history as graded in pass block win rate. Joe was sacked 7 times in his last 22 drop backs.
Just because a qb doesn't go down immediately with injury then people think it is OK. They don't or can't understand despite the mountain of evidence and history how those hits devastate your career down the line and cut it short. Cam Newton goes from MVP to a scrub in 6 years because of it.
I agree. I want us to go sign proven commodities. We need guys who can step in and hold it down RIGHT NOW. Draft for quality depth, for guys you can bring along and not rush out there. Would also like to see us snag some pass rushers for D, we need a reliable 4 WR option of someone gets hurt, etc.
I think with what we've show. This year, attracting free agents won't be hard. Go sign those OL
Crazy. A mock draft done a week earlier on PFF has Linderbaum going 7th to the Giants:
The Giants' interior offensive line needs help and although this isn’t a sexy pick, there hasn’t been a better center prospect in years. Linderbaum has everything the Giants could want from a center. New York had the lowest cumulative pass-blocking grade in the league from guards and centers last season (38.7), and Linderbaum would definitely help that mark improve moving forward.
The idea that it is possible for this guy to drop to us is irresistible to me.
The Giants' interior offensive line needs help and although this isn’t a sexy pick, there hasn’t been a better center prospect in years. Linderbaum has everything the Giants could want from a center. New York had the lowest cumulative pass-blocking grade in the league from guards and centers last season (38.7), and Linderbaum would definitely help that mark improve moving forward.
The idea that it is possible for this guy to drop to us is irresistible to me.
Hell far, Tayshaun Prince could provide better pass protection than that. It just absolutely friggin sucks. What's so bad is, with an average line the Bengals easily win that game. It's disheartening.
I'd love to have Linderbaum. I'd really love to have drafted Creed Humphrey this last draft, and passed on Carman. We would have an upgrade all year this season and could go with another position this draft.
You or I could run onto the field after a 12 pack and provide a better cover than that 😆
The first possession where Burrow didn’t throw to a wide open Higgins on 4th & 1 was costly. Knew it wasn’t gonna be our night.
Really not a Bengals fan, but would be nice to see them draft Kinnard.
Joe missed a lot of guys out there that were running open. He's going to feel awful when they show him the film. Can't blame Joe after being sacked 70 times. I just hope this is something that he gets over this offseason, but he definitely was suffering from PTSD (Post Traumatic Sack Disorder).
I think Joe's natural instinct because it served him so well his whole life prior to the NFL is always to tuck and duck in a spinning move to get away and it causes him to pull it down. Must get over that. The hardest thing to transition to in the NFL is not just how fast everything is, but also standing in there and delivering the ball just as you're hit, not tucking it down instead. He stands in there then he's got a lot of big throws he could have made. On the last series alone he got rid of the ball too quickly on the 2nd and 1 go route with 2 receivers running wide open in the middle and nobody near him to pressure him, and on 4th and 1 he has a shot at a 1 yard completion but pulls it back and then of course gets sacked doing his Julius Randle spin move. Got to deliver the ball to the bitter end. Think of how many great throws that were made just as the QB was getting hit. Nobody remembers the QB pulling it down instead. Stand in there and throw the damn ball.
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If my Titans had any balls (they don't) and upgraded the QB position that is our biggest/only real weakness as well, other than ridiculous injuries. I think the Titans & UK basketball have the same strength and conditioning staff.
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