from a Card fan . . . funny.
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Kind of ironic that you go 40-0 and you are discussed for decades. You go 38-1 and you might as well be yesterday's news.from a Card fan . . . funny.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/sports...tball-fan-boasts-giant-38-1-sticker-car-photo
Kind of ironic that you go 40-0 and you are discussed for decades. You go 38-1 and you might as well be yesterday's news.
Live in California, took my son to a new doctor this morning. I was wearing a final four shirt and the Dr just happened to be a big Wisconsin fan and alum...and wanted to give me his opinion on "one and dones" and why Wisconsin won that game...needless to say we are switching docs.
Umm, UCLA? I realize you're going to say it wasn't 38 in a row in one season, but that's simply because they didn't play that many games. Does anyone really believe some of those UCLA teams couldn't have won 38 in a row in one season if they had the opportunity?38 wins in a row is historic for tis never before been done.
Kind of ironic that you go 40-0 and you are discussed for decades. You go 38-1 and you might as well be yesterday's news.
Umm, UCLA? I realize you're going to say it wasn't 38 in a row in one season, but that's simply because they didn't play that many games. Does anyone really believe some of those UCLA teams couldn't have won 38 in a row in one season if they had the opportunity?
Kind of ironic that you go 40-0 and you are discussed for decades. You go 38-1 and you might as well be yesterday's news.
Not true. 1991 UNLV still gets brought up pretty regularly during college basketball season.
38 wins in a row is historic for tis never before been done.
Pretty sure ucla won 88 in a row...38 wins in a row is historic for tis never before been done.
Really disagree. Most mixed fanbase CBB fan discussions have them as a top 3 team of all time.Not for any good reasons. Mostly as a sign of failure or arrogance.
Before I select a doctor, I always research his/her university degrees and residencies. If I hate the schools attended, I will continue my search. I will not subject myself to hearing comments like Blue Runner experienced. Guess I take my love of the Cats to the level of obsession. I always have a UK item visible, which does invite discussion. But do not want to "discuss" when I am dealing with my health. Not good for blood pressure readings.
Really disagree. Most mixed fanbase CBB fan discussions have them as a top 3 team of all time.
And if you don't consider '15 one of the best UK teams of all time because of a single elimination tournament, you're insane. There's no argument that can put them out of the top 5 unless you're willing to fully commit to that "championships above all" thing that you seem to be rolling with, in which case, you have to say that UCLA is greater than UK as a program and that '10 Duke was a better team than '91 UNLV.
I never said that this team was not one of the best teams in UK history because I do think they are for sure, just like 2010. But they didn't achieve special greatness to me. Would they likely beat some if the championship teams? Absolutely! Just like 2010 team could but they came up short on the main prize at the end and that is a pretty huge prize to miss. You mention 1 game elimination tournament like its the freaking NIT or something. No, its the NCAA tournament. I'm sorry if you disagree but it is the tournament that bases how teams are remembered. You think anyone remembers Valvano's squad if he loses that game in the championship? You think people would remember the '98 team as fondly if they had lost to Duke, Stanford, or Utah that year? It is THE tournament and even if you don't like it, your legacy as a team is based off if you win that tournament. That's just the way it is.
Everyone remembers that UNLV team because of the loss in the final. Because it was so shocking! Because they were SO good but failed to reach the ultimate goal. That's why people remember them and they're never talked about on tv without that loss being mentioned.
I never said anything about '10 Duke beating '91 UNLV, so please don't twist my words. Nor did I say anything about UCLA being the best program. So, again, don't twist my words. I'm simply stating how I think of my program's teams and THEIR legacy within the program. When you are talking program greatness, its a little different. I think number of title are a large percentage of what opinions are based off of but I think there should also be all time wins, as well as relevancy of the program during this recent time period. Most people still rate UCLA near the top of the program list simply based off what Wooden was able to accomplish 40+ years ago. If not for those titles, I doubt UCLA would be anywhere near the top considering they have only 1 title since then in 1995.
Just realize exactly what I'm saying and don't take my words and twist them into ..."well, you have to say blah, blah, blah". I'm simply stating how this fan thinks of the teams from his programs history. That's all and I don't think I'm alone in this either. I guess I'm just insane.
Well, you said that they wouldn't be remembered as one of the best teams in UK history. And I disagree with that.I never said that this team was not one of the best teams in UK history because I do think they are for sure, just like 2010. But they didn't achieve special greatness to me. Would they likely beat some if the championship teams? Absolutely! Just like 2010 team could but they came up short on the main prize at the end and that is a pretty huge prize to miss. You mention 1 game elimination tournament like its the freaking NIT or something. No, its the NCAA tournament. I'm sorry if you disagree but it is the tournament that bases how teams are remembered. You think anyone remembers Valvano's squad if he loses that game in the championship? You think people would remember the '98 team as fondly if they had lost to Duke, Stanford, or Utah that year? It is THE tournament and even if you don't like it, your legacy as a team is based off if you win that tournament. That's just the way it is.
Everyone remembers that UNLV team because of the loss in the final. Because it was so shocking! Because they were SO good but failed to reach the ultimate goal. That's why people remember them and they're never talked about on tv without that loss being mentioned.
I never said anything about '10 Duke beating '91 UNLV, nor did I say anything about UCLA being the best program. I'm simply stating how I think of my program's teams and THEIR legacy within the program. When you are talking program greatness, its a little different. I think number of title are a large percentage of what opinions are based off of but I think there should also be all time wins, as well as relevancy of the program during this recent time period. Most people still rate UCLA near the top of the program list simply based off what Wooden was able to accomplish 40+ years ago. If not for those titles, I doubt UCLA would be anywhere near the top considering they have only 1 title since then in 1995.
I just think a title defines how you are remembered and marks your stamp on the program. Its why we hang banners for them and why we don't for regular success. I'm strictly stating how i, and I believe others, look at the teams in our programs history. That's all, within our program. I'm not getting into comparing other teams cause that's just foolish.
If what you are saying is true and its what you believe, then you would have to say that you believe a regular season win is just as big as the NCAA Championship game win, right? That's what you're saying in your post. Right?
Or would that be twisting your words?
Well, you said that they wouldn't be remembered as one of the best teams in UK history. And I disagree with that.
Of course I agree that tourney wins are more important. But I don't think they magically change who is better retrospectively.
I don't believe the best team always wins. In fact, I think the best team wins less than half of the NCAA tourneys.
Even the '96 Bulls lost 3 playoff games. If that was out of some kind of single elimination tourney, then that means failure.
So when I talk about the format, I'm talking about how statistically unmeaningful it is. Again, you could have a team like '91 UNLV that demolishes people and lights up ranked teams by a million points. '15 UK did the same thing to a slightly lesser extent. Then you have teams like '10 Duke or '11 UCONN who got hot at a good time, got some good bounces, saw the best teams in the tourney get knocked out before they had to face them, etc.
So two different questions -
Would I rather have a '91 UNLV/'15 UK season or a '10 Duke/'11 UCONN season.
I'd rather have the latter season, because the championship hangs forever.
But which teams were better?
The former teams were way, way, way better.
That's the distinction I'm drawing.
Live in California, took my son to a new doctor this morning. I was wearing a final four shirt and the Dr just happened to be a big Wisconsin fan and alum...and wanted to give me his opinion on "one and dones" and why Wisconsin won that game...needless to say we are switching docs.
Its his vehicle but I don't need a sticker to keep reminding me about the ( 1 ) .from a Card fan . . . funny.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/sports...tball-fan-boasts-giant-38-1-sticker-car-photo
I do this as well....why my Doc is a UK undergrad and a Wake Med school grad!Before I select a doctor, I always research his/her university degrees and residencies. If I hate the schools attended, I will continue my search. I will not subject myself to hearing comments like Blue Runner experienced. Guess I take my love of the Cats to the level of obsession. I always have a UK item visible, which does invite discussion. But do not want to "discuss" when I am dealing with my health. Not good for blood pressure readings.
Not in one season
I find it funny that some are still talking down one and done players when the NCAA champs in both 2012 and now 2015 were composed primarily of these type players.Live in California, took my son to a new doctor this morning. I was wearing a final four shirt and the Dr just happened to be a big Wisconsin fan and alum...and wanted to give me his opinion on "one and dones" and why Wisconsin won that game...needless to say we are switching docs.
Give me the 96, and 2012 team over last season's team any day of the week. Anthony Davis would've ate Willie for lunch.
Kind of ironic that you go 40-0 and you are discussed for decades. You go 38-1 and you might as well be yesterday's news.
Give me the 96, and 2012 team over last season's team any day of the week. Anthony Davis would've ate Willie for lunch.