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Zion Williamson being sued for rape and abuse during time at Duke.

Not a Zion or Duke fan, but her story is very suspect to say the least. She expects people to believe that after the first rape incident in Sept 2020 she voluntarily went back to have it happen again in Oct 2020? And she is just now coming out with these accusations in 2025 because? Yet, they evidently had some sort of relations from 2018 - 2023.

Sounds like a scorned ex who lost her payday.
 
Not a Zion or Duke fan, but her story is very suspect to say the least. She expects people to believe that after the first rape incident in Sept 2020 she voluntarily went back to have it happen again in Oct 2020? And she is just now coming out with these accusations in 2025 because? Yet, they evidently had some sort of relations from 2018 - 2023.

Sounds like a scorned ex who lost her payday.

Idk, sounds like they were living/staying together and had been in a relationship for 2 years by that point. Whether we like to admit it or not, people get raped or assaulted by their partners all the time and stay with them, and it happens again. Especially when money is involved and they like the lifestyle, etc. that comes with it, more incentive to stay.

Not saying she is telling the full truth here, or any truth here, but the fact that it happened twice in 2 months is not a red flag to me at all.

And Zion has had a pretty public negative reputation with women, including cheating on baby mama's, pornstars, being accused of being a sex addict, etc.

But you also have situations like the one with Terrence Shannon (and many others) who get falsely accused.

So who knows, time to let due process take it's course.
 
Not a Zion or Duke fan, but her story is very suspect to say the least. She expects people to believe that after the first rape incident in Sept 2020 she voluntarily went back to have it happen again in Oct 2020? And she is just now coming out with these accusations in 2025 because? Yet, they evidently had some sort of relations from 2018 - 2023.

Sounds like a scorned ex who lost her payday.
It is BS for sure, the whole I stayed and had a relationship with him but he raped me is very worn out at this point, especially 10 years later than it happened. If she shows real evidence then fine but he said/she said I put zero stock into. The financial abuse is the cherry on top.

The she files as Jane Doe and in Los Angeles court, the easiest courts in the country to manipulate. Why not give your real name in the accusation if it’s so real? Also why go straight for the money, if he committed such a heinous act where is the police reports or charges?
 
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Not saying she is telling the full truth here, or any truth here, but the fact that it happened twice in 2 months is not a red flag to me at all.
What about the facts that: 1) she stayed with him for years after the alleged rapes; and 2) she never went to the police or ever claimed she was raped until around a half decade later after he’d broken up with her and thus she was no longer getting to enjoy his NBA money. Does that sound at all red flag-ish?

Obviously none of us know what actually happened. But it does sound like there’s plenty of room to be skeptical of her claims.
 
What about the facts that: 1) she stayed with him for years after the alleged rapes; and 2) she never went to the police or ever claimed she was raped until around a half decade later after he’d broken up with her and thus she was no longer getting to enjoy his NBA money. Does that sound at all red flag-ish?

Obviously none of us know what actually happened. But it does sound like there’s plenty of room to be skeptical of her claims.

Nobody (at least not me) said there wasn't reason to be skeptical still.

Point number 1 is incredibly common, people stay with abusers ALL THE TIMEEEE, whether they have money or not.

Point number 2, who knows why, it could be because it's a fake claim, it could be because she's finally come to terms with what happened and felt ready to go public, it could be because she wants money, we don't know.

Hence my comment that we should just let due process have it's day.
 
Idk, sounds like they were living/staying together and had been in a relationship for 2 years by that point. Whether we like to admit it or not, people get raped or assaulted by their partners all the time and stay with them, and it happens again. Especially when money is involved and they like the lifestyle, etc. that comes with it, more incentive to stay.

Not saying she is telling the full truth here, or any truth here, but the fact that it happened twice in 2 months is not a red flag to me at all.

And Zion has had a pretty public negative reputation with women, including cheating on baby mama's, pornstars, being accused of being a sex addict, etc.

But you also have situations like the one with Terrence Shannon (and many others) who get falsely accused.

So who knows, time to let due process take it's course.
Yep. Last I knew, everyone was innocent until proven guilty. You can’t make assumptions either way until the facts come out.

Of course the catch 22 is that rape allegations are really hard to prove.
 
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Idk, sounds like they were living/staying together and had been in a relationship for 2 years by that point. Whether we like to admit it or not, people get raped or assaulted by their partners all the time and stay with them, and it happens again. Especially when money is involved and they like the lifestyle, etc. that comes with it, more incentive to stay.

Not saying she is telling the full truth here, or any truth here, but the fact that it happened twice in 2 months is not a red flag to me at all.

And Zion has had a pretty public negative reputation with women, including cheating on baby mama's, pornstars, being accused of being a sex addict, etc.

But you also have situations like the one with Terrence Shannon (and many others) who get falsely accused.

So who knows, time to let due process take it's course.
They weren't living together according to that article. It mentioned one of the allegations was his breaking into her residence.

I am not saying it doesn’t happen or is impossible, but I am skeptical ot happens and the victim stays around as much as you may be led to believe. Sure, the Diddy case has something like that, but he essentially controlled her career and life. From what I know, Zion lives and works in New Orleans and this chick was in Cali. So it doesn't sound like the same type of circumstances here. It seems like she voluntarily kept herself in that situation and was content until it ended. If you're voluntarily staying in the situation knowing the risks, particularly for money, are you being raped or are you pimping yourself out?

Being a womanizer, asshole, serial cheater or whatever doesn't make someone a likely rapist. And in the eyes of our laws, he is innocent until she proves him guilty. That is part of due process.
 
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the whole I stayed and had a relationship with him but he raped me is very worn out at this point, especially 10 years later than it happened.
This part of your comment I gotta speak up to. Women in this situations often feel controlled, they’re scared to leave, their minds get warped into thinking it was their fault, they bright it on themselves etc. To someone who’s never been in the situation, it seems ridiculous to stay with them, but you absolutely cannot comprehend the thinking of a victim of major abuse unless you’ve experienced it. And it often takes years to come to grips with it.

That said, again, I have no idea what the situation is here with this woman and Zion.
 
They weren't living together according to that article. It mentioned one of the allegations was his breaking into her residence.

I am not saying it doesn’t happen or is impossible, but I am skeptical ot happens and the victim stays around as much as you may be led to believe. Sure, the Diddy case has something like that, but he essentially controlled her career and life. From what I know, Zion lives and works in New Orleans and this chick was in Cali. So it doesn't sound like the same type of circumstances here. It seems like she voluntarily kept herself in that situation and was content until it ended. If you're voluntarily staying in the situation knowing the risks, particularly for money, are you being raped or are you pimping yourself out?

Being a womanizer, asshole, serial cheater or whatever doesn't make someone a likely rapist. And in the eyes of our laws, he is innocent until she proves him guilty. That is part of due process.

Obviously...that is why I have said like 3 times already that we don't know what happened, we need to let due process, etc....most in here (yourself included) seem to be assuming that she is lying, it's a moneygrab, etc., and are already drawing your own conclusions- I am one of the only ones saying there's doubt to be had on both sides and let's let due process have it's day.

But again, I mentioned it earlier but look it up, people stay with abusers ALL THE TIME for all sorts of reasons. That is an overwhelming fact that cannot be refuted. People stay with their abusers FAR too long in most circumstances, often times YEARS, where the abuses are carried out multiple times. The fact that she stayed in the relationship is not indicative one way or the other. Lots of studies and articles out there on the subject if you want to take a look.

That being said, I doubt anything comes out of this case either way, chances are Zion settles just to make it go away (which is not indicative of guilt either).
 
This part of your comment I gotta speak up to. Women in this situations often feel controlled, they’re scared to leave, their minds get warped into thinking it was their fault, they bright it on themselves etc. To someone who’s never been in the situation, it seems ridiculous to stay with them, but you absolutely cannot comprehend the thinking of a victim of major abuse unless you’ve experienced it. And it often takes years to come to grips with it.

That said, again, I have no idea what the situation is here with this woman and Zion.

Yes exactly.

People with that line of thinking, I can only assume have never known someone close to them in these types of situations.

These situations are sad and hard and f*cked up and there are a million reasons why women stay even after having been repeatedly abused or assaulted.
 
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This part of your comment I gotta speak up to. Women in this situations often feel controlled, they’re scared to leave, their minds get warped into thinking it was their fault, they bright it on themselves etc. To someone who’s never been in the situation, it seems ridiculous to stay with them, but you absolutely cannot comprehend the thinking of a victim of major abuse unless you’ve experienced it. And it often takes years to come to grips with it.

That said, again, I have no idea what the situation is here with this woman and Zion .
I am aware it does happen but color me extremely skeptical when they go straight for money over charges. Also the false allegations toward those with money is outlandish. I know that hurts real complaints and it’s why people who are proven to be false accusations be held to the same standard as the crimes they allege were committed. If she is lying, she should be required to pay him 18M-50M she wants and or the time served of the level of crime she alleged happened.
 
Obviously...that is why I have said like 3 times already that we don't know what happened, we need to let due process, etc....most in here (yourself included) seem to be assuming that she is lying, it's a moneygrab, etc., and are already drawing your own conclusions- I am one of the only ones saying there's doubt to be had on both sides and let's let due process have it's day.

But again, I mentioned it earlier but look it up, people stay with abusers ALL THE TIME for all sorts of reasons. That is an overwhelming fact that cannot be refuted. People stay with their abusers FAR too long in most circumstances, often times YEARS, where the abuses are carried out multiple times. The fact that she stayed in the relationship is not indicative one way or the other. Lots of studies and articles out there on the subject if you want to take a look.

That being said, I doubt anything comes out of this case either way, chances are Zion settles just to make it go away (which is not indicative of guilt either).
I think maybe you're misunderstanding. I have not seen anyone suggest due process shouldn't play out, but unless we are part of the court or jury that would hear this case, we are entitled to have our opinions on the matter. Particularly with how relevant these situations arise nowadays.

The problem is she is going to have to make a prima facie showing of assault to be able to establish a claim. It certainly doesn't appear she will meet that burden. Granted, I don't know a thing about her evidence, but it doesn't sound like much.

Stay with abusers? Sure. But there exists a big difference between abusers and rapists. Both are scum but one os far worse scum. However, I disagree that many victims of rape stay with their accuses long term, certainly not years. Are there exceptions to that? Sure! But I have seen nothing that indicates that is common. Now spouses or significant others get physically abused and verbally abused and stick around all the time. I'll agree with that.
 
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Yes exactly.

People with that line of thinking, I can only assume have never known someone close to them in these types of situations.

These situations are sad and hard and f*cked up and there are a million reasons why women stay even after having been repeatedly abused or assaulted.
I know plenty of people who were in an abusive situation but most of them had plenty of evidence of it and when they pursed charges, didn’t do it anonymously. I just think this is another probable money chaser, but I certainly won’t roast him over pure accusations. If evidence comes out that he did it then I’ll roast him most deservedly.
 
Even tho Zion is a Dukie I always liked him and rooted for him. He was just a freak of nature. Really disappointing seeing him be pretty much non existent. He’s supposed to be the face of the league right now and has he even played a full season?
 
One of them should go to jail. Let the court decide, but one of them should end up in jail.
This does not involve any criminal charges, so there is zero chance that either one will go to jail.

Good chance this suit never sees a courtroom. It’ll likely end with him simply paying her off to make it go away ..but without an admission of guilt and with the settlement terms kept confidential so we’ll never know the amount paid. That’s how these sort of civil suits tend to get handled.
 
This does not involve any criminal charges, so there is zero chance that either one will go to jail.

Good chance this suit never sees a courtroom. It’ll likely end with him simply paying her off to make it go away ..but without an admission of guilt and with the settlement terms kept confidential so we’ll never know the amount paid. That’s how these sort of civil suits tend to get handled.
That’s a shame because one of them deserves what they should get.
 
If you can legitimately prove she lied, then I can see the argument for criminal punishment; however, you run the risk of create a chilling-effect for legitimate victims that lack evidence and fear they will be prosecuted if they can't adequately prove their claims. In essence, you're causing substantially more harm than you would be mitigating.

Additionally, this is just a civil case from what I have read. So she can't be charged criminally in this even if the claims fail because there wouldn't be anything you could charge her with. He could countersue for defamation.
 
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Yep. Last I knew, everyone was innocent until proven guilty. You can’t make assumptions either way until the facts come out.

Of course the catch 22 is that rape allegations are really hard to prove.
Gets even harder in long term relationships. And yes that can happen. Couple has relations for months, then GF or BF decides its over, and then the other commits rape to get back at them. Happens more often than you think.
 
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Odds are, there is a settlement number that ends up making the whole thing go away. I've got no idea what the truth actually is, but money seems to salve a lot of righteous (or feigned) indignation in too many cases.
 
As a guy with 2 daughters I feel for females who make these allegations. As a father of a son, I feel for the accused. There are obviously 2 stories here. I am very suspicious when these allegations come out years later with a price tag.
 
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