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Zero fouls on Tennessee

I think it ended up biting UT in the ass. At one point, UT had 8 and we had 5. I think the refs eventually realized they were calling it one sided
 
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They could call multiple fouls on every trip just for impeding cutters.

On ball screens alone, almost the entire UT team should really foul out by halftime...

- On offense, Milicic (and Phillips) set screens by extending their arms to push/hold the opposing defender.
- On defense, as you said, they hold every cutter.
 
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They could call multiple fouls on every trip just for impeding cutters.
They could call a foul on every dribbler who drives by his man and holds him away with his off arm. They shouldn't let the offensive player get away with so much.

I still maintain our fans look like whiny crybabies always complaining about the refs. UK fans should be above that for the most part.
 
First half they foul Brea on a drive with no call and they knock the ball out of bounds but still gives it to UT. Think that was Vladimir standing there cheating us on that call. They was allowed to play physical inside and out and we wasn't. And being on our home floor makes it even more crazy. A lot to overcome with the refs and injuries, not sure how we done it. Daily is never good for us and paired with Vladimir we knew it wasn't going to be easy.
 
I wonder what Tennessee fans think about the phantom foul called early on Williams (I believe) when he literally wasn't close to Zeigler? It was as bad of a call as I've ever seen. I haven't seen a bigger 2 shot gift all year.
 
They could call a foul on every dribbler who drives by his man and holds him away with his off arm. They shouldn't let the offensive player get away with so much.

I still maintain our fans look like whiny crybabies always complaining about the refs. UK fans should be above that for the most part.

I've never understood when people make comments like this... so, fans shouldn't complain about incompetency of officials? I get that every fan is biased, but that doesn't change the fact that officials are often TERRIBLE

Do you have that mindset about other areas of life?
- If the service a restaurant and/or quality of food is incredibly poor, should patrons be "above complaining"?
- If pilots are incompetent, and planes crash, should the public be "above complaining"?

I know that's an extreme example as ballgames won or lost do not equate to lives lost. However, my point is about the reaction of those observing the incompetency.

Can people be over the top and whiny? Sure, but I don't think that means fans should "be above" calling out incompetency.
 
It's an absolute pile of horseshit and corrupt as hell.
We had 14 fouls and TN had 16 fouls. Both teams committed what we use to think were fouls but todays game allows a lot more contact than even 2 years ago. We got actually a very favorable whistle. Why do we degrade the game by crying over the whistle. For one game look at the calls and non calls with non blue glasses. I would hope the rest of this season including March tournament we get games called exactly like the TN game. I watched both Pope's and Barnes post game comments and both thought it was a great game. I know they can't blast the refs but nothing by either coach mentioned foul issues that hurt their team. We beat Duke in spite of the refs, so I know whistle is sometimes an issue but not Tuesday night. One of the best games I have seen in Rupp in several years. Our defense was as good as it had been all season. Our 3 pointers did not win the game. Our defense won the game. If we will bring that same defense intensity in our future games, we could win out. We have a great shooting team so all we have to do is play defense.
 
We had 14 fouls and TN had 16 fouls. Both teams committed what we use to think were fouls but todays game allows a lot more contact than even 2 years ago. We got actually a very favorable whistle. Why do we degrade the game by crying over the whistle. For one game look at the calls and non calls with non blue glasses. I would hope the rest of this season including March tournament we get games called exactly like the TN game. I watched both Pope's and Barnes post game comments and both thought it was a great game. I know they can't blast the refs but nothing by either coach mentioned foul issues that hurt their team. We beat Duke in spite of the refs, so I know whistle is sometimes an issue but not Tuesday night. One of the best games I have seen in Rupp in several years. Our defense was as good as it had been all season. Our 3 pointers did not win the game. Our defense won the game. If we will bring that same defense intensity in our future games, we could win out. We have a great shooting team so all we have to do is play defense.


This is why I love the internet. It takes all of 30 seconds to pull up the play-by-play on ESPN to see that Tennessee had to commit 3 fouls in the final minute of the game to extend the game. Kentucky had a foul a the minute mark, and then Tennessee, again, committed another 3 fouls in the final 3:30. 6 fouls to 1.

Now, we can say 3 of those were when the game was still anyones.. sure.. But that still leaves the final 3. So at the very least, it was TN had 13 fouls and UK had 14.. when we were the home team.. a team that apparantly doesn't try to play defense.. against a team that's KNOWN for aggressive defense and fouling.

It doesn't add up.
 
It's clear the SEC refs are letting teams play much more physical - appears to me it is evenly called, for the most part.
UK, who anyone and everyone says plays soft, has been on the wrong end of some 30-10 free throw discrepancies to teams that are known to be physical and aggressive defensively. So it might be hard to get some people here to believe it has been called evenly. I will say it has been better since Pope called out the officiating in the media by saying he has been studying how to play defense aggressively without being called for fouls. Did he figure something out or did the refs realize everyone was starting to notice? That is up to each persons interpretation I guess.
 
I've never understood when people make comments like this... so, fans shouldn't complain about incompetency of officials? I get that every fan is biased, but that doesn't change the fact that officials are often TERRIBLE

Do you have that mindset about other areas of life?
- If the service a restaurant and/or quality of food is incredibly poor, should patrons be "above complaining"?
- If pilots are incompetent, and planes crash, should the public be "above complaining"?

I know that's an extreme example as ballgames won or lost do not equate to lives lost. However, my point is about the reaction of those observing the incompetency.

Can people be over the top and whiny? Sure, but I don't think that means fans should "be above" calling out incompetency.
Well I agree to a point, but out fans start complaining about the officials before the game even starts. And if one team has more fouls than the other, well...maybe they are fouling more.

And as you said, sometime the refs are bad, but our whiny fans only remember the calls that go against us. We get calls, too.

I just feel like UK shouldn't stoop to having ready made excuses about the officials and blame our losses on them too.
 
Well I agree to a point, but out fans start complaining about the officials before the game even starts. And if one team has more fouls than the other, well...maybe they are fouling more.

And as you said, sometime the refs are bad, but our whiny fans only remember the calls that go against us. We get calls, too.

I just feel like UK shouldn't stoop to having ready made excuses about the officials and blame our losses on them too.

Who blames the officials before the game starts?

It's hard to look at things like Humphries spiked ball, the LSU goal tend, Getting whistled for hanging on the rim when other teams do it, The cylinder foul last year, taking 2pts away from UK against Tenn the other night.. and then look at things such as Frank Mason being allowed to be OOB while guarding an in bounds play, or Grayson Allen being able to commit a travel on a game winning bucket.. and not think there's at least SOME favoritism being going on in college basketball.



These calls matter, they effect the outcome of games and in turn, that effects seeding, and a teams overall chance to move on in the tournament.
 
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That's insane.

Then again, I've seen more games this season where the trailing team (more often than not at home) has too many fouls to give that you know the game is over because they are down 6 to 8 with under a minute and only have 2 team fouls-so they team with lead just keeps taking off 3/4 secs each time they are fouled and then gets the FT's.
 
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Well I agree to a point, but out fans start complaining about the officials before the game even starts. And if one team has more fouls than the other, well...maybe they are fouling more.

And as you said, sometime the refs are bad, but our whiny fans only remember the calls that go against us. We get calls, too.

I just feel like UK shouldn't stoop to having ready made excuses about the officials and blame our losses on them too.

Yeah, looks like we pretty much agree.

I think the biggest frustration I have (and many other fans) is the fact that fouls are skewed when playing the teams that muck it up and make the basketball game more like rugby.

If the officials call all those fouls, the numbers would appear really skewed in favor of teams like UK who dont play that style. Instead, those teams are allowed to play outside the rules in a way that benefits them. And on top of that, it makes the game SO UGLY to watch.
 
Who blames the officials before the game starts?

It's hard to look at things like Humphries spiked ball, the LSU goal tend, Getting whistled for hanging on the rim when other teams do it, The cylinder foul last year, taking 2pts away from UK against Tenn the other night.. and then look at things such as Frank Mason being allowed to be OOB while guarding an in bounds play, or Grayson Allen being able to commit a travel on a game winning bucket.. and not think there's at least SOME favoritism being going on in college basketball.



These calls matter, they effect the outcome of games and in turn, that effects seeding, and a teams overall chance to move on in the tournament.
About an hour before the game, someone will post who the refs are and immediately people will start saying how UK is going to get robbed. Or they'll just make general comments about how other teams get more favorable whistles in Rupp than we do.

Again, people don't remember the times that egregious calls went in our favor. We've had our share.
 
About an hour before the game, someone will post who the refs are and immediately people will start saying how UK is going to get robbed. Or they'll just make general comments about how other teams get more favorable whistles in Rupp than we do.

Again, people don't remember the times that egregious calls went in our favor. We've had our share.

Of course we've had some calls go in our favor. A missed travel here or there, maybe we were too aggressive on defense and got away with not fouling

But in regards to the REAL aggregious calls I mentioned above, I'm curious what examples you have of UK getting away with something so drastic. I'll wait to see what you have.
 
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They could call a foul on every dribbler who drives by his man and holds him away with his off arm. They shouldn't let the offensive player get away with so much.

I still maintain our fans look like whiny crybabies always complaining about the refs. UK fans should be above that for the most part.
Why is the responsibility on the fans to not call out refs for cheating? Sounds like victim blaming to me.
 
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Well I agree to a point, but out fans start complaining about the officials before the game even starts. And if one team has more fouls than the other, well...maybe they are fouling more.

And as you said, sometime the refs are bad, but our whiny fans only remember the calls that go against us. We get calls, too.

I just feel like UK shouldn't stoop to having ready made excuses about the officials and blame our losses on them too.
What would you say if I told you Tennessee fans and media are claiming that they got cheated by the refs?
Those guys went 12 minutes without getting called for a foul and they are physical as hell. Meanwhile, all our bigs and wings were getting called for touch fouls.
That one where Arami got called because Ziegler pump faked in the air, was really bad.
 
Who blames the officials before the game starts?

It's hard to look at things like Humphries spiked ball, the LSU goal tend, Getting whistled for hanging on the rim when other teams do it, The cylinder foul last year, taking 2pts away from UK against Tenn the other night.. and then look at things such as Frank Mason being allowed to be OOB while guarding an in bounds play, or Grayson Allen being able to commit a travel on a game winning bucket.. and not think there's at least SOME favoritism being going on in college basketball.



These calls matter, they effect the outcome of games and in turn, that effects seeding, and a teams overall chance to move on in the tournament.
 
Brooks must think the refs make a difference. He talked about how physical TX was the whole game but Strack gets some ticky tac fouls that put her on the bench a lot and that hurt us getting into a rhythm. They do make a huge difference if one team is allowed to play ultra physical but the other is called for those ticky tac fouls putting players on the bench.
 
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