I'm wondering if they can afford NOT to?
Your Emotions the Day After
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Our strength of schedule proves that your dead wrong on this post. Historically this is one of the weakest seasons for the SEC east. It's not always going to stay that way. I hope that Florida and Tennessee hire bad coaches but I'm not so sure that will happen. We're on year 5 with one of the highest paid coaches in college football and we still aren't very good. We have new facilities, better recruiting, etc. The pieces of the puzzle were there for us to have a special season considering how weak this schedule was and we didn't take advantage of it. I've noticed a select few bragging about 7 wins but what those that do so refuse to admit how bad our schedule was. Factor in there how we got dominated by Bobby Petrino and his staff yesterday. I HATE losing to them. Our team was the most classless team on the field yesterday and that's a damn shame. I expected to see that more out of the dirty cardinals. Still shocked about that.
Has our roster improved? Absolutely it has. I love that we have a winning record against South Carolina. Our coaching staff is excellent at scouting players as well. Not all Stoops has done here is bad by any means. Hell one of my happiest wins as a fan was when we upset Louisville last year.
The thing that worries me is when the schedule strength increases how will our staff respond? I wanna see us move forward and not go backwards like we have historically. With Stoops contract we have to hope that he works out because he probably won't be going anywhere anytime soon.
Very disappointed in the lack of character shown by the Cats.
Disgusted the coaches didn't discipline the players.
Dumbfounded a defensive coordinator can become a head coach and the defense come unraveled.
Discouraged that this meltdown comes on senior day, with a bowl coming, and recruits watching.
So....disappointed, disgusted, dumbfounded, discouraged.
Not what I want to be feeling end of a season.
Disgusted the coaches didn't discipline the players.
Dumbfounded a defensive coordinator can become a head coach and the defense come unraveled.
Discouraged that this meltdown comes on senior day, with a bowl coming, and recruits watching.
So....disappointed, disgusted, dumbfounded, discouraged.
Not what I want to be feeling end of a season.
Stoops isn't a hero. Any halfway decent coach could have done the same. It's not like we're sitting on a secret gold mine and hoping the rest of the college football world doesn't discover him. We're STUCK with him. Thanks, Mitch.
I have been all in with this staff, but the defense and discipline issues have to be fixed. He will be here for the next 2 years and we may see the record next year recede somewhat. 2019 is the make or break for Stoops. But what do I know, I'm a UK and Browns fan.....
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After decades of being long-suffering UK football fan, I don't get that invested anymore to the point where I have a hangover the next day. More philosophical than upset.
And you have to give some credit to Lamar Jackson. It was a very difficult game for him. I don't think most fans realize how hard it is to look downfield and see 3/4 guys running wide open and have to make a quick decision on which one to throw it to. Heck, every time they huddled back up you had at least two guys complaining to him that they were wide open.
And you have to give some credit to Lamar Jackson. It was a very difficult game for him. I don't think most fans realize how hard it is to look downfield and see 3/4 guys running wide open and have to make a quick decision on which one to throw it to. Heck, every time they huddled back up you had at least two guys complaining to him that they were wide open.
Want Mark Stoops gone!
Missouri and USCjr improved greatly throughout the season. We could not beat either one of those teams today. That's very telling.
I believe season ticket renewals will tell the story next year. Can't imamgine people will invest again. They had uppers for $20 per yesterday and couldn't fill the stadium against our largest rival.
even with added fee.. 2 uppers on secondary market were $50.47
Embarrassed. Mostly about the defense our coach is putting on the field .
Youre looking at total offense. Like i said before, thats skewed by us having one of the lowest snap counts in the nation. Our offensive efficiency is excellent. Our red zone efficiency is unbelievable.
So weve improved alot, yet havent improved at all?
The caliber of athletes improved? Howd that happen? They just take it upon themselves to come to uk? We are recruiting at a much higher level than ever.
Yes still mistakes and lots of them. But we are waaaaay better off than 5 years ago.
False. The names dont have the sex appeal, but the quality is still there. Georgia will probably be the favorite to win the sec title. Usc has 8 wins. Mizzou with 7 and on fire after their bye.
Just because the names at the top arent the usual suspects doesnt mean they arent good.
Funny thing. Weve had "halfway decent" coaches and we were still in the cellar. Stoops is moving in the right direction. Just not as fast as wed like.
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We played usc at their place in front of an unhinged crowd and was a game they had circled on their calendar all year long. They were also at full strength at the time. We won by 2 scores.
We played mizzou after their bye week that changed their season.
So in reality, we played both those teams at the peak of their seasons and still won.
And anyone who objects becomes the target of the Committee to Correct Wrongthink and gets called a fake fan, etc.
Now that is funny, made me LOL.
Feel the same way you do, just numb to the beat downs after all these years. It surely seems to be a given that Louisville will have a better QB and better coach than we do, been that way ever since they hired Schnellenberger.
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So weve improved alot, yet havent improved at all?
The caliber of athletes improved? Howd that happen? They just take it upon themselves to come to uk? We are recruiting at a much higher level than ever.
Yes still mistakes and lots of them. But we are waaaaay better off than 5 years ago.[/QUOTE]
I don't think there is anyone here who has not credited Stoops and his staff for the massive upgrade in recruiting. For that he gets all the credit in the world but you still have to coach that talent and improve it while it's here within a team concept. This is where he is failing miserably as his teams as a whole never look properly prepared and the likes of EKU have had realistic chances of beating is in both years 3 and 5 of his tenure. Do you not think our recruiting is better than what EKU gets to play with?
So weve improved alot, yet havent improved at all?
The caliber of athletes improved? Howd that happen? They just take it upon themselves to come to uk? We are recruiting at a much higher level than ever.
Yes still mistakes and lots of them. But we are waaaaay better off than 5 years ago.[/QUOTE]
I don't think there is anyone here who has not credited Stoops and his staff for the massive upgrade in recruiting. For that he gets all the credit in the world but you still have to coach that talent and improve it while it's here within a team concept. This is where he is failing miserably as his teams as a whole never look properly prepared and the likes of EKU have had realistic chances of beating is in both years 3 and 5 of his tenure. Do you not think our recruiting is better than what EKU gets to play with?
I have no reason to doubt your accuracy on this. So why not recognize them & give someone a shot? Are the coaches that afraid of the alternatives?
Yesterday I was mad and aggravated.
Today I'm angry and frustrated.
Tommorow I will be sad and depressed, mainly because I don't drink on Mondays.
Today I'm angry and frustrated.
Tommorow I will be sad and depressed, mainly because I don't drink on Mondays.
This is a good comment and one I feel is very prophetic. In the near term, unless major changes are made defensively, Mark would likely return to DC status for another program. I’m quite sure there are some serious conversations forthcoming between AD and his head coach.
Still extremely disappointed. I knew a loss to UL would dampen the whole season. 8-4 or 9-3 was there for the taking....
A loss to UL was unacceptable. You have to win that game at home or you start losing the Fan Base.
We could have been sitting pretty with a win over UL and going to a bowl game at 8-4.
Now, nobody cares. People are angry and should be after that pathetic drubbing yesterday.
In addition, Haynes' tweet really disturbs me only because I've sensed that for a while. I don't think coaches like House, Clinkscale, Thomas, etc. really care at all about being at UK.
I think Stoops, Gran, Morrow, and some others actually like being at UK.
Stoops may just be doing the best he can....He may not be a D1 coach as much as I want him to succeed here.
I ran into Stoops and his wife and kids in Florida couple years back. Seemed like a very nice guy and family. He took time to chat a minute and take a photo with me.
A loss to UL was unacceptable. You have to win that game at home or you start losing the Fan Base.
We could have been sitting pretty with a win over UL and going to a bowl game at 8-4.
Now, nobody cares. People are angry and should be after that pathetic drubbing yesterday.
In addition, Haynes' tweet really disturbs me only because I've sensed that for a while. I don't think coaches like House, Clinkscale, Thomas, etc. really care at all about being at UK.
I think Stoops, Gran, Morrow, and some others actually like being at UK.
Stoops may just be doing the best he can....He may not be a D1 coach as much as I want him to succeed here.
I ran into Stoops and his wife and kids in Florida couple years back. Seemed like a very nice guy and family. He took time to chat a minute and take a photo with me.
I have read two people so far say that they are still undecided about stoops after 5 years. Do they know ridiculous that is? If you don’t know what you have after 5 years then, I hate to break it to you, but what you got sucks. He is what he is at this point.
He has all his players, no more joker excuses. He will continue to recruit at the same level he has been, which is better than ever but he can’t develop them.
He is a conservative defense coach who will micromanage his offensive and defensive coordinators and will very rarely take any chances.
He has all his players, no more joker excuses. He will continue to recruit at the same level he has been, which is better than ever but he can’t develop them.
He is a conservative defense coach who will micromanage his offensive and defensive coordinators and will very rarely take any chances.
I dont think the loss was unacceptable. The way we lost was. Nonexistent defense and discipline was disgusting
44-17 embarrassment to our in state rival. Last game of the season. I think you may have forgotten already
Also, UL completely owns us the last several years in football.
But sure , let’s pretend Mizzou and USC are some great “recruiting fodder” wins lol
That decision would be above my pay grade, but I can only assume that since it was UofL, that an 80% Johnson was their best hope over someone who hasn't played any this year. But as an aside, it is unfortunate that we couldn't get any reps to speak of, for the backup(s) this year.
We beat ul last year. Mizzou and usc were good wins. 7 and 8 wins sec teams.
No disputing that
Thsts the best you can do?
I felt numb after the game, same as some of the other games this season. Even when we won, I didn't feel highly excited like I would have in the past. My head tells me I should be giddy with 7-5. That's a high mark by Ky standards, but my heart is disappointed, which of course is nothing new to a long time Ky Football fan.
Looking at the crowd, or lack of the crowd, I find myself thinking that the sports love of my life is rapidly declining. Yesterday's ul game had to have been the least attended since the series began. In twenty years, you won't see an average of 25 K at a Football game.
We've tried all kinds of coaches. We had guys that had never even coached at a D1 level; we've had a guy that coached at a very high level and was successful at Bama. He couldn't get it done at Ky. In fact, the best we've had was Brooks and we lucked into him as he was a last resort. IMO, CMS may be the best we can get. His 7-5 may be the best we can do..maybe an 8-4 occasionally.
I never thought I'd say it, but I've ridden this horse long enough. There are other, better, more meaningful, productive ways to spend Saturday afternoons.
Looking at the crowd, or lack of the crowd, I find myself thinking that the sports love of my life is rapidly declining. Yesterday's ul game had to have been the least attended since the series began. In twenty years, you won't see an average of 25 K at a Football game.
We've tried all kinds of coaches. We had guys that had never even coached at a D1 level; we've had a guy that coached at a very high level and was successful at Bama. He couldn't get it done at Ky. In fact, the best we've had was Brooks and we lucked into him as he was a last resort. IMO, CMS may be the best we can get. His 7-5 may be the best we can do..maybe an 8-4 occasionally.
I never thought I'd say it, but I've ridden this horse long enough. There are other, better, more meaningful, productive ways to spend Saturday afternoons.
Our strength of schedule is in the 60s. The SEC east only has one team ranked in the top 25. Someone posted South Carolina being ranked but that isnt true on the AP or Coaches poll. Worst Florida team that they have had in who knows how many years. A Tennessee team that is terrible. A terrible Vanderbilt team. Facts negate your point but nice try.
