You guys that think Andrew flopped better watch it again....
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This is the best view I've seen yet. Pause it at 4 seconds and quickly hit play/pause through the 6 second mark. At 5 seconds you can clearly see Mann slap across Andrew's face.
Mann's hand is close enough that you can't see any space between his hand and Andrew's face. I still can't 100% swear that he hit him, but this stuff about being 2 inches away is nonsense. Watch it.
The hand slap probably grazed his cornea, but the contact lens kept him from getting a scratched cornea.
Agree again. No poke to the eye. We all get to chose how to interpret the evidence. The video is quite good, yet not perfect. Andrew's reaction is in sequence with the left hand, which he likely did not see coming, only felt. you can be very irritated by the disagreement if you want to be (and it's kinda obvious that you do), but I'm going with rapid fingertip contact at mouth area, which is also very irritating.
You seem desperate to make this equivalent to the blank space between Dakari and Chris Jones (which was as wide as the Ohio river), but the fact is that there is no blank space between Andrew and Mann's left hand.
No, Andrew has never flopped at UK.... He didn't flop this time for sure.... If anyone can show me that he flopped somewhere else in his two years here, then I will say, the picture last night was wrong....
Anyway, I wonder what percentage of you guys that are saying this are UK fans?
Gary, I think people can look at a video, discern what happened, and have a reasonable opinion regardless of what team they follow.
I'm a UK fan, and I think Andrew flopped. Hell, I know Andrew flopped
. The video is what it is.
GBB!!!
I'm a UK fan, and I think Andrew flopped. Hell, I know Andrew flopped
GBB!!!
Really Gary? I wonder what percentage here thinks you are sane?
Our guys flop too, we are not Duke or UL, but we flop. It is effective at times.
Here is Andrew being called out by the announcer two different games:
http://www.lostlettermen.com/article/video-kentuckys-andrew-harrison-has-epic-flop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x413an_-qio
Flop or not, anyone who has played competitive b'ball, and has been poked in the eye once (but perhaps more) knows how instinctive a reaction you can have when a hand of another player comes across your face that close to your eye. It's a natural reflex....even if you don't play ball. Add to that reflex that you're moving quickly and perhaps a bit off balance and it would be very easy to fall down...hence what may look like a flop.
Flippity-floppityOriginally posted by brianpoe:
Originally posted by catben:
brianpoe, that Vine is proof positive that Andrew wasn't even remotely hit anywhere near his eye, unless his eye is floating under his chin.
We all love Andrew's effort, but he tried to draw the foul and came up empty.
These damn people have me thinking I am crazy. This video is posted all through this thread yet.... honestly, we deserve every criticism as a fan base out there.
Don't tell people to take off their blue glasses because they clearly need them. lol
I believe Andrew thought the hit was going to be worse than it was. He was reacting to the hand coming at his face and it wasn't in slow motion like you are privileged to see. He jerked backwards at the swipe and went backwards. I don't think it was an intentional flop. I don't think he was trying to sell a lie. It just reacted then fell back. I don't see the big deal about it.
Have any of you ever turned around and had someone unexpectedly touch you in the face?
It's clear that it wasn't a hard hit to the face but his fingers did hit Andrew in the jaw/mouth area unexpectedly, which caused Andrew to flinch/snap his head back and the Georgia player was right up against him which affected Andrew's center of gravity thus causing him to lose his balance and fall.
So, no, it was not a flop. Bilas would have called him out if it had of been. End of story.
It's clear that it wasn't a hard hit to the face but his fingers did hit Andrew in the jaw/mouth area unexpectedly, which caused Andrew to flinch/snap his head back and the Georgia player was right up against him which affected Andrew's center of gravity thus causing him to lose his balance and fall.
So, no, it was not a flop. Bilas would have called him out if it had of been. End of story.
You are freaking high if you think that's worse than anything Duke has ever done. Good Lord that is a horrible take. Apparently you've never seen Paulus play.
I posted the screenshot near the bottom of page 2 of Mann's blurry hand going across the bottom of Andrew's face. It isn't conclusive either way (too blurry), but anyone who is adamant that he wasn't hit either doesn't want to look, or has an agenda.
There are a group of people who make a sport out of trolling...especially trolling the twins. I have no doubt that some of them just want to jump in any time there's a chance to take a shot at Andrew.
I don't really have a dog in the fight. If there was conclusive evidence one way or the other I would say so. Even blowing up the pic right at the end of the slap (like I did) it's a little too blurry to say conclusively. Anyone who says with certainty that Andrew wasn't hit isn't looking at that pic, imo.
I think the guy slapped at Andrew...either barely hitting him or barely missing him. I think Andrew tried to sell it (which he is prone to do). I honestly think the whole thing is pretty funny and I'm having a good time with it.
I don't see why it's a big deal that he flopped. Doesn't change anything about who he is as a player. It's just a flop, it's not like he's throwing games. Not a big deal at all to me.
Cal has said many times that he has told the twins to drive it and stop trying to get a foul call, anyone that looks at that video and says he didn't flop are simply not being honest. If it were any player from any other team playing against us these guys would call it a flop. Ulis took an elbow to his face and never fell down like that. It was a flop and it was embarrassing period.
My issue is with Gary and the others who are adamant that he was slapped in the face or poked in the eye (on HOB Gary used the word "gouged"). Simply isn't true and we look silly saying that stuff.
Like I said maybe he got a tiny bit of chin, I would say the bump and Andrew being off balance caused the fall, maybe. The head fling may have been due to him thinking he was about to be poked, but AnH is the team flopper this year.
I love the twins and hope they stay.
Like I said maybe he got a tiny bit of chin, I would say the bump and Andrew being off balance caused the fall, maybe. The head fling may have been due to him thinking he was about to be poked, but AnH is the team flopper this year.
I love the twins and hope they stay.
Some of our fans will talk themselves into thinking they actually did see something that didnt happen
No way he got poked in the eye!! He flopped
No way he got poked in the eye!! He flopped
They don't want to look at it as it will refute their longing for validation - needy validation. Brian isn't worth the time to discuss because he can't decide his position. First in this thread he said no eye poke so FLOP. Then he went on to say Mann's left hand clearly missing by 2 inches, which is a lot and is wrong. Now he is conceding there was contact between Mann's left hand and the lower part of Andrew's face. In spite of all those adjustments, the degree to which he accuses Andrew of flopping, which is strong, has not adjusted.
In the blow up, there IS something foreign in Andrew's face, along the right side (his right) of his nose. It looks like an outstretched finger.
Brian, I have no doubt you are as true blue as I am, but I doubt you are as old as I am. When you reach my age, it's hard to decipher anything with an ass like that staring back at you. Shed the pic and let a geezer think straight before posting, even without testosterone flowing, that kind of stuff can distort the best vision around. By the way, wasn't a flop.
