This thread was doomed from the get go.And ......... this is another thread in which we can fight each other.
This thread was doomed from the get go.And ......... this is another thread in which we can fight each other.
You're sitting one of the two we had, who did it against legit major conference competition. I'm glad you're not the coach.
Kyle wanted to leave and Cal wanted him to stay. What do you not understand about that?
I know it would never happen, but he might fill a void at the SF position.
Like you're suggesting we do with Willie or Towns? Both of whom are more valuable than Kyle would ever be?Yea, good point. Only a good coach like yourself would let an All American sit on the bench & watch.
Like you're suggesting we do with Willie or Towns? Both of whom are more valuable than Kyle would ever be?
First of all, Kyle wasn't run off. He left for a place that fits him better, from both a style and a competition standpoint.
He's still a defensive liability, but his offense has improved in the two years since he left, just like it would have here. He's always been a talented scorer, and he's in the perfect spot for his skills.
He plays a much bigger role there than he would here, because of the talent around him and that he's up against, but we could absolutely use a guy like that on the roster for various situations. He wouldn't want to fill that role, and I don't blame him, but you'd be foolish to not want him here as a bench guy in a perfect world.[/QUOTE]
I loved Kyle as much as the next person - truly. And,I wished him the very best when he left; glad to see the accolades and AA status. But that statement I bolded is the reason I said no. I don't want him to return because HE didn't want to be here - for whatever reasons, he chose to leave our program. The coach is the same one who was here before Kyle left, the system is the same.
Cal said in public he wanted him to stay. Many times. They also maintain a close relationship. I will take him at his word rather rely on your baseless, bitter opinion.I understand completely. I also look forward to seeing the Easter Bunny each spring...
Cal said in public he wanted him to stay. Many times. They also maintain a close relationship. I will take him at his word rather rely on your baseless, bitter opinion.
Kyle Wiltjer an All American, lol. I still laugh every time I hear that. Incredible.
Gonzaga....
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IN a nut shell. Anyone that truly thinks Kyle is a top 10 player in college is smoking crack made with the finest quality cocaine and arm and hammer baking soda fresh off the shelf . AHAHAHAHA
I didn't say I wouldnt play him at all, I'm saying he is such a defensive liability he can't start. He also shouldn't start because he'd be forcing a better player to sit. He'd be a valuable situational player, but not much else.You do realize that combinations of all 3 could play...they could even all play at once. 2 of them played 20-25 minutes per game this year & we did fine. Wiltjer is a very good basketball player, not a freakish athlete who plays basketball. There is a difference...and there is room for both.
Is the dumbest poster on thsi forum again making a fool of himself? Shocking. Guys, I put that guy on ignore (well overdue) so please everyone do the same so he can just talk to himself, and the voices in his head.
I didn't say I wouldnt play him at all, I'm saying he is such a defensive liability he can't start. He also shouldn't start because he'd be forcing a better player to sit. He'd be a valuable situational player, but not much else.
So I'll ask again. You're criticizing Cal for not drastically changing the way we play for a guy who wouldn't start?I never said anything about him starting either.
The bitterness I describe is your general attitude towards Cal. You seem to have a negative slant when it comes to him. Your opinion about this issue is in direct contrast to what Cal has said on the record and Kyle's continued fondness of Cal.Certainly your prerogative, just as my opinion is my own.
No idea where the bitter part comes from. I'm not Wiltjer. it doesn't matter to me.
So I'll ask again. You're criticizing Cal for not drastically changing the way we play for a guy who wouldn't start?
The bitterness I describe is your general attitude towards Cal. You seem to have a negative slant when it comes to him. Your opinion about this issue is in direct contrast to what Cal has said on the record and Kyle's continued fondness of Cal.
The bitterness I describe is your general attitude towards Cal. You seem to have a negative slant when it comes to him. Your opinion about this issue is in direct contrast to what Cal has said on the record and Kyle's continued fondness of Cal.
What you fail to understand is those don't have to be mutually exclusive. Obviously I'm a wildcat fan first- no matter who the coach is. And the success Cal has had here has made me a fan of his. As you said previously, his results speak for themselves.Not a Cal fan.
Am a Wildcat fan.
What I would like to know is what has changed that would make anyone think he would be a better fit for the systems that Calipari runs a second time around at UK? Calipari's systems on both offense and defense is contingent on players being very athletic and being able to beat other players one on one. Do any of you really think that Wiltjer is in any way a one on one player on either offense or defense? He is a shooter that needs help to get his shot and his defense is just let me be nice and say it is what it is.
that's what I was thinking - would Kyle have made the AA team here? He would have had to show Cal a difference in how he played to even get on the floor, much less log the minutes he needed.You take just about any of our players and give them 3 years to develop and they would be All Americans at Gonzaga. It doesn't mean they will be All Americans here.
In a heartbeatWould you take Wiltjer back as a graduate transfer?
no - nice thought but no. There is a reason why Kyle left; things haven't changed, so he would be in the same boat as he was before.
no....his playing time in Lexington is over. No defense............plus no defense.I know it would never happen, but he might fill a void at the SF position.