you were close keep reading down the link
i do believe we lost that season
we need clarification from @JPScott
Would you claim a Title if the NCAA stripped it from us because of ineligible player, etc?
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i do believe we lost that season
we need clarification from @JPScott
They won the title with recruits entertained by Katina Powell. Hardly call that an advantage, if anything, it’s even more of an accomplishment.
Jim Harrick was a known cheater during every other stop in his career. 1995 is probably questionable.
The NCAA’s validity in deciding such matters became compromised ages ago. I don’t care what they say counts and doesn’t. I’ll decide for myself. As far as i’m concerned UofL’s 2013 title is every bit as legit as Dukes 2010 title, UNC’s 2009 and 2005 titles and a bunch of ucla’s titles in the 60’s and 70’s.
I still can’t find any evidence that we vacated any wins outside of those couple tournament wins in 1987-1988.
More UK fans claim the UL title than UL fans. It’s their attempt to make Rick appear to be a better coach than Cal, even tho we all know Cal owns Pitino.
Y’all can claim what you want, knowing Pitino can’t coach well enough to win a title without cheating, brings me great happiness. 😁
Y’all can claim what you want, knowing Pitino can’t coach well enough to win a title without cheating, brings me great happiness. 😁
Don't claim fake Helms trophy titles.
Wouldn't claim a forfeited title either.
Let the wannabe schools do that garbage.
Wouldn't claim a forfeited title either.
Let the wannabe schools do that garbage.
You're equating "advantage" with "impermissible benefits". They are not the same.
Not that I’m aware of but I wouldn’t be surprised if something came out that Pitino did something wrong.
If you’re trying to compare when Cal was at the University of Massachusetts to Pitino being at Louisville, it’s not even a comparison. UL is a top 10-15 program of all time according to many people, UMass is not.
I'm not trying to compare anything. I'm just going by your statement that he can't coach well enough to win a title without cheating.
It's the NCAA, so, yes. 10/13/17
A different governing body, probably not.
A different governing body, probably not.
Blind squirrel finds a nut every once and awhile.
His coaching inability cost us the title in ‘97.
The NCAA is bunk. If we got caught I’d ask the crooked NCAA to vacate UNC’s titles post 1982, Kansas’ titles since 1952, and everything Dook ever won before they even looked in our direction.
We lost our best player in January and still made it to overtime of the championship game.
Anything the NCAA does is corrupt nepotistic bull, so yes. The NCAA has shown they have zero authority.
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Hate to break it to you guys but every national champ ever had players take money from a booster. 20 dollars here, 40 there or 100k. Same difference. Most just don't get caught.
I voted Yes but it would depend on what it was. A Derrick Rose situation where there is no evidence the guy just won’t cooperate after leaving the school? Hell yeah, that was some BS.
If we legitimately cheated to get a player then no. If we had whores in the dorms then no.
If we legitimately cheated to get a player then no. If we had whores in the dorms then no.
Well, Nazr Mohammed going 0-6 from the free throw line sure didn’t help.
Guy lost his best player in January and took his team to a 35-5 record and overtime loss in the championship game, forgive me if I don’t blame his coaching on anything that year.
I’d hang a banner and claim a championship every year just to piss the NCAA off
Me too, screw the NCAA. Never made sense to retro take it away honestly. The games happened and they are on tape. I know they don’t wanna punish future players who had no knowledge but now that players are paid it’s even more irrelevant.
It’s been a long time since I watched that game and I’m old now. I could be mixing games up, but I believe he missed a couple of those very late in that game too. I remember the 3 to tie it to send it to OT and we clanked a few FT’s late. Oh yeah and Turner and Pricket fouling out killed us. Turner was killing them in the post.
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IMHO, UK should reclaim the vacated games during the dark years of the late 80s.
Outside of the 2 tournament games we vacated I still can’t find any evidence we vacated more than that. One guy told me we did and I’ve asked him twice to show me that and nothing. Did we?
Well, I stand corrected.
I'd sworn in court we vacated the 87-88 or 88-89 season games.
I was at the game and I’ve never been able to bring myself to rewatch it. But it seems like some of those FT’s were late in the game.
That’s what my brain tells me lol, but my brain has been thru a lot since then 😂
Also, we couldn’t keep Mike Bibby or Miles Simon out of the lane. Our back court was getting killed off the dribble and kept reaching.
We were short handed though. And fatigue probably became a factor as the final four game against minnesota was extremely physical. Allen Edwards was not 100% either. I think i recall him having back spasms. Turner, Epps and walk on Cameron Mills were our only healthy guards.
Despite that, if Nazr just hits one in regulation we win.
We were short handed though. And fatigue probably became a factor as the final four game against minnesota was extremely physical. Allen Edwards was not 100% either. I think i recall him having back spasms. Turner, Epps and walk on Cameron Mills were our only healthy guards.
Despite that, if Nazr just hits one in regulation we win.
That doesn't change what happened. They cheated, their title doesn't exist.
And we lost to a great team. Sometimes you just get beat.
It’s the kinda thing where you say it doesn’t count if it was anyone else, but for Kentucky it counts the NCAA is just corrupt!! Lol
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