Would in-game competition make Leary play better?

[Catzman]

Not a new thought....but maybe giving Sheron some gameplay as an alternating QB would increase Leary's accuracy as he seems very competitive. The same for putting the next set of wide receivers in would do the same for the starters at WR. Also more throws to the tight ends who seem to have better hands-like Dingle. And sad for Stoops to say Berry is the best punter we have. Field position means everything!

 

[Tf2217]

We promised the world to people that are sucking and don't have the balls to back track it.

No doubt in my mind that we let Barion around with his crap because he's a highly ranked player. Dane has been hot dog water most of the year. We will not sit them and give anyone a shot because the don't want thier "superstars" (lol). to get butt hurt.

 

[YardCat]

Completing 45% of your SEC passes should be enough for him to be more competitive. He is dead last and behind Mizzu’s punter. SMH
If he is our best chance, get rid of all the QB’s and bring in all new.

 

[cathouse]

We promised the world to people that are sucking and don't have the balls to back track it.

No doubt in my mind that we let Barion around with his crap because he's a highly ranked player. Dane has been hot dog water most of the year. We will not sit them and give anyone a shot because the don't want thier "superstars" (lol). to get butt hurt.

Is it possible that CMS continues to play these players that don't perform because of NIL obligations????????

Think about it. I hear someone is paying Leary 60K a month NIL money. You know it took NIL bucks to keep Brown and probably Key.

If those guys aren't playing, someone is going to be pi$$ed because of no return on investment in NIL.

My grandfather always said there is nothing free in life. NIL comes with a price tag, especially for the coaches............they sell their control to someone else for NIL $$$$$..

 

[StubbornPenny]

Is it possible that CMS continues to play these players that don't perform because of NIL obligations????????

Think about it. I hear someone is paying Leary 60K a month NIL money. You know it took NIL bucks to keep Brown and probably Key.

If those guys aren't playing, someone is going to be pi$$ed because of no return on investment in NIL.

My grandfather always said there is nothing free in life. NIL comes with a price tag, especially for the coaches............they sell their control to someone else for NIL $$$$$..

I’ve seen 30K a month on here, then 40K a month and now 60K. By December he’ll be making 980K a month lol

 

[dallasg23]

Is it possible that CMS continues to play these players that don't perform because of NIL obligations????????

Think about it. I hear someone is paying Leary 60K a month NIL money. You know it took NIL bucks to keep Brown and probably Key.

If those guys aren't playing, someone is going to be pi$$ed because of no return on investment in NIL.

My grandfather always said there is nothing free in life. NIL comes with a price tag, especially for the coaches............they sell their control to someone else for NIL $$$$$..

I doubt this. NIL doesn’t mean a damn thing if your product is trash. It’s not like these dues are out here with logos on the shirt of their endorsements. At the end NIL is just like anything else, you only get what your performance earns you. Playing bad is just as bad as not playing.

 

[Imafan4evr_]

I think he’s probably doing the best he can. No reason for that not to be the case. Unfortunately, assuming this is his best, it stinks. His line is mediocre on a good day, he can’t pick up on a rush at all, his receivers are straight garbage and his accuracy is so bad that I think he’d struggle to complete two-thirds if there were no defense on the field at all.

There’s also the issue that his backup hasn’t really shown the ability to… do anything, except hand the ball off. Partly by play-calling, of course, but that’s also probably for a reason.

We got a dud. Adding insult to injury, we also can’t recruit and/or keep a good QB to develop and bring up in our system over the course of a playing career, either. I can’t blame a prospective QB for looking at our current offensive philosophy, line and receivers and steering far clear, though.

 

[cathouse]

I’ve seen 30K a month on here, then 40K a month and now 60K. By December he’ll be making 980K a month lol

I didn't come up with 60K. I read it in an NIL article covering different players on different teams.

What we do know, is he is getting paid. And, that right now, based on how he has played up until now, he is overpaid.

Even if it's $15 a month.

 

[STL_Cat]

Why’s everyone so down on Barion? I mean I understand totally that his level of play has been not what we need it to be. I’m talking more about the other stuff, like people insinuating he has a bad attitude or is a locker room problem

 

[mrschwump]

Why’s everyone so down on Barion? I mean I understand totally that his level of play has been not what we need it to be. I’m talking more about the other stuff, like people insinuating he has a bad attitude or is a locker room problem

B. Brown has had a hammy pretty much all year. It is fair to question.......why continue targeting him on deep throws with a sore leg? As to the attitude question....some UK "fans" just love eating their own.

 

[jgraf_1]

i think there needs to be a change in offensive philosophy. if you watched leary at nc state they did a lot of rpo and even some designed qb runs. they designed plays to make sure their best guys got the ball in space. at uk it seems like they want him to just sit back on 3-5 step drops and let it rip. i don't think that's his strength and i don't think that is what the receiving corp can hang their hat on either. they aren't possession receivers. also the offensive line has been bad in pass protection the last few games. leary has no time.

leary has not been accurate. that isn't debatable. he came in with the expectation of being accurate. that he absolutely needs to fix. maybe it was from his torn pec or maybe he doesn't fully trust himself yet. but i also think the play calling hasn't done him any favors.

the backup qb is always the best player on the team. but in this case, i think people need to think about why they targeted portal qbs so heavily. we saw what sheron and wade had last year.

also gotta wonder if they play with more tempo and just let him go he doesn't have to stop and think. he can play. maybe they should let him do what he can instead of forcing what he isn't good at....and tempo is all stoops. he's part of the equation too.

personally i think it's a combo of many things. bad play calling. leary being wildly inaccurate. line bad in pass protection lately. dropped passes. tempo. etc. it all has combined to be a bad 3 game stretch and overall disappointmeny relative to talent and expectations.

 

[docholiday51]

Leary hasn't played as well as we thought he would but he isn't the reason we have dropped the last 2 games. A QB can't carry a team when his wideouts drop half the balls he throws their way. He has missed some open targets but he has hit receivers in the numbers multiple times only to watch the ball hit the ground.

Take away a handful of bonehead penalties and we are in the Missouri game with a chance to win. We dig ourselves into this same hole every year. We weren't going into Georgia and win based on how UGA had played up to that point, in front a a home crowd and needing to prove something.

Missouri is another matter, some can't handle the truth ,we can't seem to handle success.

UT coming to town off an Alabama trip will provide us a chance at redemption, they won't hand it to us but we are good enough to take it if we don't help them beat us.
Anyone think a repeat of the UF game effort isn't good enough to beat UT?

 

[aikenite4uk]

There is plenty of blame to go around, but let's not sugar coat it. Leary has made some dreadfully inaccurate throws in SEC play. Once Stoops settles on a starting QB, he has to be carried off the field for the back up to see the field (not that I hope that happens to the young man).

Also, I doubt if the guy is 6 feet tall much less 6-1. He kind of reminds me of Sawyer Smith. Capable of looking good at times but questionable with his decisions and accuracy.

 

[cathouse]

There is plenty of blame to go around, but let's not sugar coat it. Leary has made some dreadfully inaccurate throws in SEC play. Once Stoops settles on a starting QB, he has to be carried off the field for the back up to see the field (not that I hope that happens to the young man).

Also, I doubt if the guy is 6 feet tall much less 6-1. He kind of reminds me of Sawyer Smith. Capable of looking good at times but questionable with his decisions and accuracy.

Get Smitty's name outta your mouth.

That guy is a QB legend around here. 😃

 

[maroon79]

Lol

 

[Catzman]

i think there needs to be a change in offensive philosophy. if you watched leary at nc state they did a lot of rpo and even some designed qb runs. they designed plays to make sure their best guys got the ball in space. at uk it seems like they want him to just sit back on 3-5 step drops and let it rip. i don't think that's his strength and i don't think that is what the receiving corp can hang their hat on either. they aren't possession receivers. also the offensive line has been bad in pass protection the last few games. leary has no time.

leary has not been accurate. that isn't debatable. he came in with the expectation of being accurate. that he absolutely needs to fix. maybe it was from his torn pec or maybe he doesn't fully trust himself yet. but i also think the play calling hasn't done him any favors.

the backup qb is always the best player on the team. but in this case, i think people need to think about why they targeted portal qbs so heavily. we saw what sheron and wade had last year.

also gotta wonder if they play with more tempo and just let him go he doesn't have to stop and think. he can play. maybe they should let him do what he can instead of forcing what he isn't good at....and tempo is all stoops. he's part of the equation too.

personally i think it's a combo of many things. bad play calling. leary being wildly inaccurate. line bad in pass protection lately. dropped passes. tempo. etc. it all has combined to be a bad 3 game stretch and overall disappointmeny relative to talent and expectations.

You pretty much summed it up. I tend to agree with you.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Not a new thought....but maybe giving Sheron some gameplay as an alternating QB would increase Leary's accuracy as he seems very competitive. The same for putting the next set of wide receivers in would do the same for the starters at WR. Also more throws to the tight ends who seem to have better hands-like Dingle. And sad for Stoops to say Berry is the best punter we have. Field position means everything!

Here is what I think his biggest issue is, other than the drops. He played in the ACC, he saw 2, maybe 3 good defenses a year, if he missed CU, FSU and NC he may have not faced a good defense. He is seeing DBs and DL every week that he may have saw only 1 or 2 times.

 

[Madcat62]

taking a QB coming off a shoulder or pectoral tear seems like a questionable
choice if you are looking for a starter that season.

 

[gossie21]

Sure as cuss won’t make him play any worse.

 

[gamecockcat]

i think there needs to be a change in offensive philosophy. if you watched leary at nc state they did a lot of rpo and even some designed qb runs. they designed plays to make sure their best guys got the ball in space. at uk it seems like they want him to just sit back on 3-5 step drops and let it rip. i don't think that's his strength and i don't think that is what the receiving corp can hang their hat on either. they aren't possession receivers. also the offensive line has been bad in pass protection the last few games. leary has no time.

leary has not been accurate. that isn't debatable. he came in with the expectation of being accurate. that he absolutely needs to fix. maybe it was from his torn pec or maybe he doesn't fully trust himself yet. but i also think the play calling hasn't done him any favors.

the backup qb is always the best player on the team. but in this case, i think people need to think about why they targeted portal qbs so heavily. we saw what sheron and wade had last year.

also gotta wonder if they play with more tempo and just let him go he doesn't have to stop and think. he can play. maybe they should let him do what he can instead of forcing what he isn't good at....and tempo is all stoops. he's part of the equation too.

personally i think it's a combo of many things. bad play calling. leary being wildly inaccurate. line bad in pass protection lately. dropped passes. tempo. etc. it all has combined to be a bad 3 game stretch and overall disappointmeny relative to talent and expectations.

I've been thinking the same thing lately. Instead of running a 'pro' offense (badly, this year), how about running a sophisticated college offense we can actually execute? Coen has schemed guys open at times but, also, we've had whole series where the plays called just didn't seem to fit the situation or personnel. The obsession with throwing bombs has really been a sore spot with me. Wasted play every time.

Developing QBs for the NFL is nice but I'd like to win more at the college level. Michigan plays a pro style as do many other teams but there scheme doesn't seem as complicated.

 

[maroon79]

Leary needs to dig deep

He seems to be too stressed out at times

Relax man. You got this

If it’s injury related, no sweat. He can’t help it

 

[katwest]

I wish we could recruit and develop a quarterback and have him for 3 or 4 years and not have to rely on the portal for our starter. I know it worked well with Levis, but it hasn't worked out that well with Leary. The season is not over, and he can still do great things. It sure would be nice to have one to be in the system more than one year and not have to worry about who it's going to be the next year.

 

[mrschwump]

I wish we could recruit and develop a quarterback and have him for 3 or 4 years and not have to rely on the portal for our starter. I know it worked well with Levis, but it hasn't worked out that well with Leary. The season is not over, and he can still do great things. It sure would be nice to have one to be in the system more than one year and not have to worry about who it's going to be the next year.

With Boley committed for '24 and Saunders for '25 UK may be headed in the direction you wish, have to give it time to unfold. Coen's been here less than a year.

 

[PensacolaBlue]

I also wonder why we don’t throw more short and over the middle. The overthrown deep balls to Brown are extremely aggravating. They never come close.

 

[secrules3]

100% it would but our coaches aren't intelligent enough to understand that.

To those that disagree. THEY STARTED BURTON AT CENTER. My wife knew he was trash after watching the first two games not not the BRILLIANT people that we pay MILLIONS of dollars to. Pathetic.