Will This Be A Better 3-Pt Shooting Team Than 2011?

[Tampa_cat54]

Just wanted everyone's take, because 2011 was probably the best shooting team Cal has had here.

2011

Knight
Lamb
Miller
Liggins

Occasional 3's from:
Jones

2016

Ulis
Murray
Mulder
Briscoe

Occasion 3's from:
Matthews
Poythress
Skal?

Thoughts?

 

[caneintally]

Yes IMO this is easily our best shooting team from 2 and from 3. Ulis,Murray , Willis ( though who knows if he plays though he can play for sure ) and Mulder are all 40% or better shooters from 3. SKal ( though I doubt he shoots too many ) and Poy will shoot around 35%-40% IMO and Briscoe and Matthews can make them but aren't what you would call shooters.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

I doubt it, at least not based on shooting percentages. That 2011 team had 2 well over 40%, another at 40% if you round up, and Knight at near 38% as a volume 3 point shooter.

We know Ulis can shoot over 40%, but how good are Mulder, Murray and Briscoe from 3 overall? If they all 3 shoot over 35% I'd be very happy.

 

[wcc31]

'16 may shoot it at a higher percentage, but '11 could stretch the floor better with Knight/Lamb (at least by late in the season). Would love if Poythress could at least be a threat from 3 like Jones was.

 

[Tampa_cat54]

'16 may shoot it at a higher percentage, but '11 could stretch the floor better with Knight/Lamb (at least by late in the season). Would love if Poythress could at least be a threat from 3 like Jones was.

That team was scary just because of the outside threat, and the fact that Miller was pretty killer at slashing/posting-up smaller guys.

 

[Bigblueforever]

Yes IMO this is easily our best shooting team from 2 and from 3. Ulis,Murray , Willis ( though who knows if he plays though he can play for sure ) and Mulder are all 40% or better shooters from 3. SKal ( though I doubt he shoots too many ) and Poy will shoot around 35%-40% IMO and Briscoe and Matthews can make them but aren't what you would call shooters.

Agree

 

[BigAbe4UK]

I feel like this group certainly has no shortage of outside shooters. Hell even our 5s can hit them. They have a very good chance to be IMO.

 

[reddickulis81]

They might be. I know one thing. Knight, Lamb and Miller could stroke it man.

 

[Smashcat]

Just wanted everyone's take, because 2011 was probably the best shooting team Cal has had here.

2011

Knight
Lamb
Miller
Liggins

Occasional 3's from:
Jones

2016

Ulis
Murray
Mulder
Briscoe

Occasion 3's from:
Matthews
Poythress
Skal?

Thoughts?

May not be better but should be awfully good. May be the best passing team Cal has put on the floor here.

 

[WildMoon]

I say yes, the spacing this team has is better than 2011. Lamb makes it little bit hard to argue for 2016 team, but next three would be on 2016 team.

 

[Rupp'sRunt]

Brandon Knights the best pure shooter Cal has ever had.
I cant think of another UK player, under Cal, that would pull this shot.
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[UK_Johnny24]

11 was a good shooting team, but I think this can be Cal's best 3pt shooting team. We have Ulis, Murray, and Mulder who should all shoot over 40% from down town. Then if y'all remember Poy shot pretty well his freshman year. If he can just be a threat like somebody else said then man..... Briscoe wont shoot as well as the other 3 guards but I think he definitely will shoot better than some people think. Simply put. this may be a deadly 3pt shooting team.

 

[IL Wildcat]

This is a good question. It's gonna be tough to beat that 2010-11 team in 3pt shooting. That team was excellent.
The 2010-11 team shot 39.7% from 3. (281-707)
Lamb shot 48.6% (68-140)
Miller shot 44.3% (58-131)
Liggins shot 39.1% (36-92)
Knight shot 37.6% (87-231)
Jones shot 32.9% (26-79)

Compare that to last season
The 2014-15 team 34.9% from 3. (203-582)
Ulis shot 42.9% (33-77)
Booker shot 41.1% (58-141)
Andrew shot 38.3% (36-94)
Aaron shot 31.6% (59-187)

Looking at that, it really emphasizes just how good last year's team was in regard to size and strength. That team just overpowered people. If we had even one more dead-eye shooter, 40-0 may have happened. It nearly happened anyway.

But this year will likely fall between these 2 teams. There is no question, this team has more and better shooters than last season. I don't know if the team will be as good as that 2010-11 team, but the potential is there, without question.

Ulis has already proven he can shoot it at better than 40%
Murray shot 41% from 3 during the FIBA Americas championship
Last season in junior college, Mulder shot 46.3% from 3
Briscoe can and will shoot it, just not sure of his percentage
Matthews will get some looks and so will Poythress.

A big question is who will shoot the most? Last year, the guy who shot the most, Aaron Harrison, shot the poorest of our players who attempted at least 50 3fgs. Aaron attempted 46 more 3s than Booker but only made 1 more. So, hopefully we can get the right guys taking the right shots. We need Ulis and Murray shooting the 3 more than anyone else, followed by Briscoe and Mulder.

The potential is there to be a great 3pt shooting team.

 

[Blue Decade]

Just wanted everyone's take, because 2011 was probably the best shooting team Cal has had here.

2011

Knight
Lamb
Miller
Liggins

Occasional 3's from:
Jones

2016

Ulis
Murray
Mulder
Briscoe

Occasion 3's from:
Matthews
Poythress
Skal?

Thoughts?

No. And that won't be the strategy anyway. This team will create a lot of shots in the lane and mid-range. Murray and Briscoe are very dangerous with dribble penetration.

 

[KY Long Rifle]

I would love it if they were, but I just don't see it. Lamb was the best shooter I have ever seen in my entire life at Kentucky and Knight and Miller were great too.

 

[michaeluk26]

Just wanted everyone's take, because 2011 was probably the best shooting team Cal has had here.

2011

Knight
Lamb
Miller
Liggins

Occasional 3's from:
Jones

2016

Ulis
Murray
Mulder
Briscoe

Occasion 3's from:
Matthews
Poythress
Skal?

Thoughts?

Be hard to do. That 2011 team was statistically our best 3 point shooting team ever.

 

[MKGMVP]

I've always felt Knight was the best college guard to play for Cal at UK. I think that mantle will be passed to Murray in 5 months.

 

[caneintally]

I really never thought of 2011 as some amazing shooting team . I do think of this year's team as one .

 

[Chuckinden]

I wouldn't bet on it.

I wouldn't either. It all depends on how Cal uses them.

 

[Tampa_cat54]

I really never thought of 2011 as some amazing shooting team . I do think of this year's team as one .

They shot, by far, the highest percentage of any team Cal has had here.

Also, they had the second-best 3-Pt FG percentage of all power-5 teams that year, behind only Ohio State (bit of irony)

 

[JerseyCat84]

They shot, by far, the highest percentage of any team Cal has had here.

Also, they had the second-best 3-Pt FG percentage of all power-5 teams that year, behind only Ohio State (bit of irony)

That's not saying a lot though. Cal normally hasn't had great shooting teams while at UK.

 

[Tampa_cat54]

That's not saying a lot though. Cal normally hasn't had great shooting teams while at UK.

The 2nd stat is saying a lot though...

 

[JerseyCat84]

The 2nd stat is saying a lot though...

Fair enough.

 

[caneintally]

That's not saying a lot though. Cal normally hasn't had great shooting teams while at UK.

Yes that was my point . Lamb was amazing but beyond that they were good shooters not amazing like Booker , Lamb , Ulis or Murray . This year we have 4 guys ( 3 who will play for sure ) that when they shoot it I totally expect it to go in . And guys like Poythress and Briscoe who will get hot at times and make 2-4 in a game . Also Skal is a very decent 3 pt shooter ( as it Humphries ) but Cal doesn't like his centers that far out.

 

[Aike]

They might.

Skal is going to draw defenders. Murray can abuse the college three point line. Ulis is clutch.

Open looks will be plentiful. If one of Briscoe/Mulder/Poythress outperforms expectations, they may shoot it incredibly well as the year goes on.

 

[Tampa_cat54]

Yes that was my point . Lamb was amazing but beyond that they were good shooters not amazing like Booker , Lamb , Ulis or Murray . This year we have 4 guys ( 3 who will play for sure ) that when they shoot it I totally expect it to go in . And guys like Poythress and Briscoe who will get hot at times and make 2-4 in a game . Also Skal is a very decent 3 pt shooter ( as it Humphries ) but Cal doesn't like his centers that far out.

But like I said they were the 2nd best 3-Pt shooting team in all of the Power 5 that season.

That's pretty good.

 

[JPScott]

I really never thought of 2011 as some amazing shooting team . I do think of this year's team as one .

If you only consider perimeter shooting and look at 3-point field goal percentage, then the 2011 team was indeed one of UK's best teams in its history. Below shows UK's three-point fg% since the shot was adopted. The three best seasons were 2011 (39.7%), 1996 (39.7%) and 1993 (39.4%).

Of course there's other measures of shooting. For example just the straight field goal percentage (which includes both 2-pt and 3-pt shooting) and 2011 looks rather average for recent teams.

There are many other ways to look at shooting effectiveness, including ones which explicitly take out the 3-point shot and others which give the 3-point shot additional weight. These can be seen at the following page:

UK Historic Statistical Trends