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Will Jeff Brohm Make Louisville A Winner?
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I didn`t say he was a bad coach, I just said the Brohm name, in Kentucky, isn`t as big as it once was. Most of the current high school players were in kindergarten when the Brohm's played at UL. Well..............one of them.Coach Rating Index: College football's 10 best head coaches
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He is probably an upgrade over the previous coach, but having him ranked as a top 20 coach is pretty dumb. This guy claiming he is top 10 acts like being a good recruiter isn't important. Ask any ultra successful coach if it is, Saban was average until he got the best players,Kirby hasn't reinvented defense, he puts a collection of elite athletes on the field. He would be hard pressed being top 10 in SEC. Lincoln Riley has lost every important game he has ever coached,
I just posted the link because the thread was about Jeff Brohm. You are correct, there was not a direct connection to your statement. I should have posted it as a stand alone instead of response to your post. No ill intent intended.
The ACC is a horrible conference. I think he brings a legacy name back to Louisville and I am not sure if that matters in this todays climate in football. He will do his best, as I am sure he has in previous stops, but I think they will be a ..500-.650% team in the ACC. We cannot compare records because they simply will not have NEARLY the schedule difficulty as we do yearly. So... I guess if that is a good winning percentage in a depleted conference then yeah, he will do fine.
No problem, but I am a firm believer in opposing fan bases being able to go onto each other's site and have a fun banter back and forth about each other's team. Without calling people names or being nasty, just fun.
I agree. I especially appreciate the opposing fans that aren't so obsessed with denying every weakness in their own program. I think it's entirely fair for UL fans to be enthusiastic about their future with their hometown hero returning to lead their program. On the other hand, I think it's very fair for UK fans (and others) to be skeptical about just how successful Brohm will be there.
I will add, the posters on your site has gone down tremendously in the past year or so. I think that correlates to the "house cleaning" that took place about the same time period. Friendly banter, back and forth, increases traffic and I think someone didn`t realize that when this took place. They cleaned house and took off afterward never to be heard from again. Most are blaming Zipp, but it was someone else.
He will do very well at UofL. He knows how to win at Louisville. He already has had alot of success on the side lines. Didn't he coach his little brother there under Petrino. If he can create that culture and atmosphere and swag they had then he will challenge for tops un that league, and with playoff expansion top 2 or 3 will get in fromm ACC probably. So he may get them to a playoff game before us. Circumstances are very different when it comes to that topic.
I rarely visit that site. I would guess less than once per month. I generally go to Inside The Ville for UofL sports and this site more for the political forum.
I read sports on this site, but the only time I post sports on this board is if the headline includes UofL, someone posts about old school UK sports, or the occasional ABA trip down memory lane. If someone starts hurling insults, I don't respond. Not my cup of tea to argue like toddlers in a sandbox.
Brohm got Purdue past the Darrell Hazell fiasco, probably a bit better than Danny Hope but still less than Joe Tiller. None of those coaches lost fewer than four games in a season except Tiller in his very first season. I don't think any of those coaches had better success at the P5 level before or after than they had at Purdue. What makes Brohm the exception?
Shouldn't have attached this to @Grumpyolddawg's post but you all get what I am saying, right?
Louisville has Adidas money. Brohm will recruit well plus a week ACC. I think they made the right hire. 10 wins gets them in a expanded playoff.
How good of a recruiter must he be to be successful?
Here are the 2023 team rankings for UK and UofL
| Kentucky | 19 | 0 | 9 | 10 | 3.47 |
| Louisville | 15 | 0 | 7 | 7 | 3.4 |
Edge to UK, but UofL appears competitive.
Here are two transfer portal rankings. Different approaches. Both have UofL in the top 15.
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I think being in the ACC is a big advantage. If they had beaten us yesterday they were in serious consideration to get in the playoffs. Besides money, what advantages do we have of playing in the SEC? We will never win anything because it's just too difficult and we have too many obstacles to overcome.
If UK were in the ACC I think we could compete for a playoff spot every few years with the right coach. Stoops is too inconsistent. Too many games that we barely even show up for.
Like so many offensive minds, the game is evolving right into Brohm's wheelhouse. Specifically, QB/Passing game guys which Brohm is. Give him a guy who can tie his shoes and throw a ball forward and he can make something happen.
People seem to forget Brohm has been a name on a lot of lists for a while. Since he was an assistant and coordinator. Has a nice pedigree/resume as player and coach.
He was doing something special at WKU, had Purdue not come along and he stayed there a couple of more years...that would have been interesting. He had them on pace for 11-12 wins and being one of those G5/mid major type programs that kind of hang around in the rankings. A bigger program than Purdue and UL would have come knocking.
Purdue is Purdue they're out manned in every regard in the B10. Brohm did about as well as he could.
It was destiny for Brohm to end up at UL. ACC suits him and his style. There aren't 6-8 prominent programs that stay at the top, hog all the recruits, pay silly money for top coaches and staffs.
Don't need 3 deep depth in all 3 phases like other conferences. Can pretty much get away with offense. I mean just look at their schedule next year. Notre Dame and Clemson are the "toughest" games. Clemson is in a down cycle, and they beat ND this year.
People seem to forget Brohm has been a name on a lot of lists for a while. Since he was an assistant and coordinator. Has a nice pedigree/resume as player and coach.
He was doing something special at WKU, had Purdue not come along and he stayed there a couple of more years...that would have been interesting. He had them on pace for 11-12 wins and being one of those G5/mid major type programs that kind of hang around in the rankings. A bigger program than Purdue and UL would have come knocking.
Purdue is Purdue they're out manned in every regard in the B10. Brohm did about as well as he could.
It was destiny for Brohm to end up at UL. ACC suits him and his style. There aren't 6-8 prominent programs that stay at the top, hog all the recruits, pay silly money for top coaches and staffs.
Don't need 3 deep depth in all 3 phases like other conferences. Can pretty much get away with offense. I mean just look at their schedule next year. Notre Dame and Clemson are the "toughest" games. Clemson is in a down cycle, and they beat ND this year.
There is no question being in the SEC is a detriment to 12 out of the 14 current schools and will get a bit worse next season. The money supports their athletic programs, but the competition hurts them relative to the current playoff structure.
- The media has SEC Fatigue. They're tired of the SEC dominating and want some new blood.
- The NCAA likewise.
- The top SEC teams have SEC Fatigue. They don't take OOC games as seriously as they once did, and it has hurt their hype this season and others.
- There are 3 weak conferences among the P5 where a team needs a little D and a pulse on offense to go undefeated.
- Or win their conference or division with 1 or 2 losses and still be in playoff conversation on fanbase, name recognition, and hype alone.
- You can't do that in the SEC and make the playoff, which is a shtty double-standard.
-Perennially the SEC teams dominate against higher ranked and much hyped opponents from other conferences, but ALWAYS start out each season as if they've somehow gotten the yips in the off-season.
-Strength of Schedule means NOTHING to the media or to the playoff committees
For example- If UK had knocked off Georgia and somehow won the East in 2018, they wouldn't have truly been in the playoff discussion that year. Even if they played well in the conference championship, it just wouldn't have happened because of preseason rankings/perception. A 1 loss big12, big10, ACC, and/or an undefeated and hyped non P5 TEAM, would've been taken before them.
We can all hope it will get better with 12 teams in a playoff, but the underlying issues will still remain, while the guantlet of play within the conference will get even more brutal. Kentucky is stuck where they are because of the money and basketball.
UL is in the much better position nationally because of their weak conference competition and scheduling, as long as the ACC stays together. Their recruiting will get better because of their exposure both within the conference and nationally because there isn't any real competition, and because of their NIL base. UK is broadcast nearly every week, but will always take a back seat in football marketing to the hype and viewership/fanbases of UGA, TX schools, AL schools, UT, UF, and soon OK.
We can see that clearly, or should, because we've beaten UL 5 years in a row and no matter what we've done they are ranked, hyped, and favorites to win the game every year. It defies common sense, but money and marketing matter. UK is NOT as a program AT ALL good at marketing their program and roster nationally or regionally.
- The media has SEC Fatigue. They're tired of the SEC dominating and want some new blood.
- The NCAA likewise.
- The top SEC teams have SEC Fatigue. They don't take OOC games as seriously as they once did, and it has hurt their hype this season and others.
- There are 3 weak conferences among the P5 where a team needs a little D and a pulse on offense to go undefeated.
- Or win their conference or division with 1 or 2 losses and still be in playoff conversation on fanbase, name recognition, and hype alone.
- You can't do that in the SEC and make the playoff, which is a shtty double-standard.
-Perennially the SEC teams dominate against higher ranked and much hyped opponents from other conferences, but ALWAYS start out each season as if they've somehow gotten the yips in the off-season.
-Strength of Schedule means NOTHING to the media or to the playoff committees
For example- If UK had knocked off Georgia and somehow won the East in 2018, they wouldn't have truly been in the playoff discussion that year. Even if they played well in the conference championship, it just wouldn't have happened because of preseason rankings/perception. A 1 loss big12, big10, ACC, and/or an undefeated and hyped non P5 TEAM, would've been taken before them.
We can all hope it will get better with 12 teams in a playoff, but the underlying issues will still remain, while the guantlet of play within the conference will get even more brutal. Kentucky is stuck where they are because of the money and basketball.
UL is in the much better position nationally because of their weak conference competition and scheduling, as long as the ACC stays together. Their recruiting will get better because of their exposure both within the conference and nationally because there isn't any real competition, and because of their NIL base. UK is broadcast nearly every week, but will always take a back seat in football marketing to the hype and viewership/fanbases of UGA, TX schools, AL schools, UT, UF, and soon OK.
We can see that clearly, or should, because we've beaten UL 5 years in a row and no matter what we've done they are ranked, hyped, and favorites to win the game every year. It defies common sense, but money and marketing matter. UK is NOT as a program AT ALL good at marketing their program and roster nationally or regionally.
Next years schedule has has 8 teams on it that will go a bowl this year.
@ Notre Dame 9-3 this year
@ Clemson 8-4 this year and seemed to get better as the season went on.
@ Kentucky 7-5 this year
SMU 10-2 this year
Miami 7-5 this year
Georgia Tech 7-5 another one who played better as the season went on and only lost to Georgia by 8pts
Pittsburgh 3-9 but they beat us this year
@ Boston College 6-6 this year but we don’t usually play well there.
@ Stanford 3-9 this year
@ Virginia 3-9 this year
Austin Peay FCS but did go 9-3 this year
Jacksonville St 8-4 in year one of playing in the FBS under Rich Rod.
Without knowing who all stays, leaves or comes in through the transfer portal. I could see us anywhere from 7-5 to 10-2 again. Just to many unknowns like does Brohm go QB shopping or does he roll the dice with one that is already on the roster we don’t know yet.
