Will Jeff Brohm Make Louisville A Winner?

[bluecoon1]

NIL is a game changer so they’re bringing in some guys but it’s too early to tell how that plays out on the field. Satt’s biggest issue imo was not focusing on dudes on both sides of the line, had some athletic guys but undersized. Brohm played in a weak B1G west but I’d say overall it was stronger than 75% of the ACC. I could see them winning 8-9 games on average but they’ll never reach the those ten win seasons they bragged about in the BE and CUSA.

 

[Chum83]

Meh. I’d have preferred they kept Satterfield but I was glad he’s who they hired. He has been mediocre at best (granted, in a tougher conference but the Big10 West isn’t near as good as the East). He’ll do better than Satterfield & in years they have favorable schedules (like this year) their record will be inflated. They’ll be (Leach’s) Mississippi State without the defense & less talent in the trenches. Just like Leach and Brohm has done in the past, they’ll win some games they shouldn’t (hopefully not against us) and they’ll lose some head scratchers too. Those upsets every now & then & the benefit of some (often, but not every year) weak schedules will be enough to keep him there for a long time IMO. Should make it more fun & he’ll beat us at some point because we will be their Super Bowl (even moreso in years like this year without the top of the ACC on their schedule), but he certainly does not scare me.

 

[Hjack]

Whatever happens in any football season at UL means nothing. They will never be described as winners.

 

[John_dromo1]

Satterfield is a capable coach. Otherwise UC would not have hired him. UC has a history of good football coaches. They don't hire beginners up there. Satterfield got himself into a bad situation in Louisville. Now Brohm has to make it work in that same bad situation. I expect Brohm to be a little bit better recruiter and a marginally better coach. UL will still be a middle of the road ACC team. I do not understand the fear that some of our fans have toward Brohm. If he was a miracle worker, he would not be in Louisville.

What “bad” situation?

 

[BradleyCrawford08]

They’ll definitely win more with Brohm than Satt. Biggest issue with Louisville under Satterfield was his style of play. Satterfield’s offense was very vanilla and overly predicated on running the ball while Brohm has always had powerhouse offenses that could sling it going back to his days at WKU with Brandon Doughty at QB. I think he will do alright at Louisville. Not enough to contend in the ACC on a regular basis but good enough.

 

[Pickle_Rick]

Brohm is a better coach, but playing in the ACC and their schedule will do more to improve their standing.

 

[SECCountry75]

…will he be able to get players at UofL?

That is the first question for any new football coach anywhere.

Regardless of coach, UL is not the easiest place to recruit. Campus is in an unappealing part of a crime riddled city. Not a very good school, with no standout departments. Multiple recent scandals in their Athletics Department and high coaching turnover. It is an ACC school that has not competed well with middle level ACC rivals. It will not be easy for Brohm to sell what he did at Purdue, number 1 because he bolted on Purdue and number 2 because he did not accomplish all that much there in the first place.

There will be NIL money, but I do not see much changing at UL. If any of our fans think Brohm can catch up to what Stoops has accomplished, they should put down the crack pipe.

 

[Smashcat]

Whether UL improves or not I will always hope they lose every game.

 

[SECCountry75]

Whether UL improves or not I will always hope they lose every game.

It is ACC football. Dying conference. Why does anyone care? For me, the question to watch is if Kentucky will be able to recruit more football players out of Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia.

 

[YaketySax]

If any of our fans think Brohm can catch up to what Stoops has accomplished, they should put down the crack pipe.

internet memories are short. I Recall card fans saying the same about stoops in December of 2012. I wouldn’t make any confident statements either way. The only think I’ve learned in the last 10 years is how little we all know.

 

[SECCountry75]

internet memories are short. I Recall card fans saying the same about stoops in December of 2012. I wouldn’t make any confident statements either way. The only think I’ve learned in the last 10 years is how little we all know.

Apples and oranges. I am confident in what I said. It was inevitable that the SEC team would catch and surpass the CUSA/ACC team. Kentucky hit a rough patch in the '90s because a couple of bad coaching hires by CM, followed by probation and sanctions. CM was a terrible football AD. But UL is not Clemson. Over a period of time, the SEC team in the bluegrass state will outrecruit the school in the lower conference. Stoops is a better coach than some of our fans appreciate, and I do not see Brohm catching up. That is my opinion. You are free to disagree but I would not bet against the SEC.

 

[YaketySax]

Apples and oranges. I am confident in what I said. It was inevitable that the SEC team would catch and surpass the CUSA/ACC team. Kentucky hit a rough patch in the '90s because a couple of bad coaching hires by CM, followed by probation and sanctions. CM was a terrible football AD. But UL is not Clemson. Over a period of time, the SEC team in the bluegrass state will outrecruit the school in the lower conference. Stoops is a better coach than some of our fans appreciate, and I do not see Brohm catching up. That is my opinion. You are free to disagree but I would not bet against the SEC.

Cool

 

[Cardinals19701]

Brohm is a better coach, but playing in the ACC and their schedule will do more to improve their standing.

Meh. I’d have preferred they kept Satterfield but I was glad he’s who they hired. He has been mediocre at best (granted, in a tougher conference but the Big10 West isn’t near as good as the East). He’ll do better than Satterfield & in years they have favorable schedules (like this year) their record will be inflated. They’ll be (Leach’s) Mississippi State without the defense & less talent in the trenches. Just like Leach and Brohm has done in the past, they’ll win some games they shouldn’t (hopefully not against us) and they’ll lose some head scratchers too. Those upsets every now & then & the benefit of some (often, but not every year) weak schedules will be enough to keep him there for a long time IMO. Should make it more fun & he’ll beat us at some point because we will be their Super Bowl (even moreso in years like this year without the top of the ACC on their schedule), but he certainly does not scare me.

UK has UL’s Super Bowl is hilarious, yes this years schedule is weaker but as far as a Super Bowl game I would put Notre Dame above UK this year.

2024- Clemson, Notre Dame, UNC & UK, now Miami could enter the mix if they get it going.

2025- FSU, UK and maybe Miami

2026- Georgia, Clemson, FSU, UK and maybe Miami

 

[Chum83]

UK has UL’s Super Bowl is hilarious, yes this years schedule is weaker but as far as a Super Bowl game I would put Notre Dame above UK this year.

2024- Clemson, Notre Dame, UNC & UK, now Miami could enter the mix if they get it going.

2025- FSU, UK and maybe Miami

2026- Georgia, Clemson, FSU, UK and maybe Miami

Fair enough. I probably shouldn’t have said “Super Bowl” since that can be interpreted as the hardest/best teams(s) you face. That wasn’t my intended meaning, so I should have been more clear. Maybe I should have said “biggest rival” or the team you most want to beat (Or would hate losing to the most). For most UK fans (or for me, at least) it isn’t the best teams Kentucky faces (Alabama or Georgia) and it also isn’t Louisville (although UofL is still high on the list). It takes the edge off of the “rivalry” when no one on the UK team has ever lost to UofL & the few 6th year “super seniors’ average margin of victory during their tenure is 31 points.

 

[Pickle_Rick]

I notice UK has gone from Superbowl to just another game as soon as we started the beat downs. downs.

 

[Blouman]

Brohm has been successful as a head coach at WKU and Purdue. Purdue
was pretty bad when he came in there and he definitely elevated that
program. I would think he had to have learned quite a bit as an assistant
for Petrino and having played for Schnellenberger. He was a tough,
hard nosed player and he's probably the same way as a coach. I think
he'll do pretty well for UL.

 

[EdgeHD]

Brohm has been successful as a head coach at WKU and Purdue. Purdue
was pretty bad when he came in there and he definitely elevated that
program. I would think he had to have learned quite a bit as an assistant
for Petrino and having played for Schnellenberger. He was a tough,
hard nosed player and he's probably the same way as a coach. I think
he'll do pretty well for UL.

He will have to do pretty well to justify that contract. But they are still a so so team in a so so conference that is one press conference away from falling apart. For Brohm to elevate their program, he has to recruit really well there. No coach since Schnellenberger has recruited very well in Louisville for any length of time. Petrino had a couple of decent classes but they were built, ironically, on Brian Brohm and some other locals. Everyone knows they cheated to get Bridgewater. The quality of high school football in Louisville has nosedived in the last 10 years. I do not believe Brohm can even tread water there without bringing in whole classes of top players from outside the state. If he can do that, more power to him. But it will not be easy for him, and I will need to see it to believe it. I do not see Stoops' supremacy in the state coming under threat because Kentucky is SEC and Kentucky's facilities and campus are much better for attracting recruits.

 

[Ollie]

Brohm is a good coach and honestly, the whole family is very well respected and extremely down to earth, good people.
It all depends on recruiting just like every coach. At this level, there's some difference in coaches, but for the most part, there isn't some coach that that no one can coach against. It's about the players. The difference when two really good teams with good coaches, it comes down to the little things.

 

[CatPatrick13]

What “bad” situation?

I think he means the bad situation of UL being a dog crap school.... prob that situation.

 

[StubbornPenny]

Better coach overall, but if the ACC implodes it won’t matter as he won’t stay (why would he?). At this point Louisville would be smarter to rename themselves “New Albany” and try to be the SEC foothold in Indiana

 

[backinky2018]

He will have to do pretty well to justify that contract. But they are still a so so team in a so so conference that is one press conference away from falling apart. For Brohm to elevate their program, he has to recruit really well there. No coach since Schnellenberger has recruited very well in Louisville for any length of time. Petrino had a couple of decent classes but they were built, ironically, on Brian Brohm and some other locals. Everyone knows they cheated to get Bridgewater. The quality of high school football in Louisville has nosedived in the last 10 years. I do not believe Brohm can even tread water there without bringing in whole classes of top players from outside the state. If he can do that, more power to him. But it will not be easy for him, and I will need to see it to believe it. I do not see Stoops' supremacy in the state coming under threat because Kentucky is SEC and Kentucky's facilities and campus are much better for attracting recruits.

Charlie Strong actually recruited well for UL, though they played an absolutely pathetic schedule when he was there.

 

[HoptownCat93]

Let's see what he does long-term...

He's a guys that can win a big game. He can develop offense...but is a he a guy that can build a big-time PROGRAM?

His resume...
-Louisville Assistant under Bobby
-Louisville OC under Krag (was fired)
-FAU Assistant for a year
-Illinois OC under Paul Petrino
-UAB assiatant under Garrick McGee (Bobby
-WKU OC under Bobby
-WKU HC
-Purdue HC

The resume is basically coaching for Bobby Petrino and Petrino connected coaches. He's a Petrino Jr. Bobby was BIG GAME BOBBY PETRINO. But there were flaws...

1. Petrino's teams would play up/down to their opponents...Brohm's teams have done that...beats teams like Ohio State and Iowa...but loses to Eastern Michigan, Rutgers, Nevada, etc.

2. Coaches within his system and circle...Bobby liked his guys. Jeff seems to hire guys that are his guys. He's very much in-control...his brother Brian is his OC and Jeff calls plays. Ron English is DC who he coached with at UofL. Garrick McGee is back. Their OL coach played at UofL and got his start with Bobby. He never coached at big time schools...he doesn't have big time connections for staff.

3. Bobby didn't really value defense...Brohm's defenses have been suspect in a division in the Big Ten that didn't value offense at all. He had 4-5 different co-DC's during his run at Purdue and they got lit up a few times.

Overall his records were decent...but the Big Ten West is filled with programs like Iowa as their leader...followed by Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, Nebraska, and Northwester....and he gets a yearly game with IU. He was a winner...but nothing screamed amazing.

He was there for 6 years and never really had his name in any of the big jobs...several big jobs opened and you only heard him in the Tennessee fiasco search of 2017 as like the 5th/6th option. Big schools don't see him as "the guy"

7-6
6-7
4-8
2-4
9-4
8-5

And it's commendable they won their division...they won the division by beating 1-11 Northwestern 17-9 in a very tight game. They lose that and it would've been a 4-way tie for first



Louisville will be solid under Brohm. They won't be bad. They'll get up for the Governor's Cup forsure and I would imagine they'll beat us some and they'll be good games. But they're not going to be some national power.

Scott Satterfield took over a 2-10 mess of a program that had no OL and had the worst defense in history. He got to a bowl game every non-COVID year when many thought the culture was toxic and it would be a 3 year rebuild. He could've folded with their bad start last year...and even when their QB went down they played some solid football and were ranked #25 when they played us. He wasn't great...but UofL fans have unreasonable expectations. They think they're a title contender and that the Lamar 2016 team should be a normal occurrence for them. THey can't even realize that 3 bowl games for a coach taking over a 2-10 team in a P5 league was a solid rebuilding job.

 

[backinky2018]

Let's see what he does long-term...

He's a guys that can win a big game. He can develop offense...but is a he a guy that can build a big-time PROGRAM?

His resume...
-Louisville Assistant under Bobby
-Louisville OC under Krag (was fired)
-FAU Assistant for a year
-Illinois OC under Paul Petrino
-UAB assiatant under Garrick McGee (Bobby
-WKU OC under Bobby
-WKU HC
-Purdue HC

The resume is basically coaching for Bobby Petrino and Petrino connected coaches. He's a Petrino Jr. Bobby was BIG GAME BOBBY PETRINO. But there were flaws...

1. Petrino's teams would play up/down to their opponents...Brohm's teams have done that...beats teams like Ohio State and Iowa...but loses to Eastern Michigan, Rutgers, Nevada, etc.

2. Coaches within his system and circle...Bobby liked his guys. Jeff seems to hire guys that are his guys. He's very much in-control...his brother Brian is his OC and Jeff calls plays. Ron English is DC who he coached with at UofL. Garrick McGee is back. Their OL coach played at UofL and got his start with Bobby. He never coached at big time schools...he doesn't have big time connections for staff.

3. Bobby didn't really value defense...Brohm's defenses have been suspect in a division in the Big Ten that didn't value offense at all. He had 4-5 different co-DC's during his run at Purdue and they got lit up a few times.

Overall his records were decent...but the Big Ten West is filled with programs like Iowa as their leader...followed by Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, Nebraska, and Northwester....and he gets a yearly game with IU. He was a winner...but nothing screamed amazing.

He was there for 6 years and never really had his name in any of the big jobs...several big jobs opened and you only heard him in the Tennessee fiasco search of 2017 as like the 5th/6th option. Big schools don't see him as "the guy"

7-6
6-7
4-8
2-4
9-4
8-5

And it's commendable they won their division...they won the division by beating 1-11 Northwestern 17-9 in a very tight game. They lose that and it would've been a 4-way tie for first



Louisville will be solid under Brohm. They won't be bad. They'll get up for the Governor's Cup forsure and I would imagine they'll beat us some and they'll be good games. But they're not going to be some national power.

Scott Satterfield took over a 2-10 mess of a program that had no OL and had the worst defense in history. He got to a bowl game every non-COVID year when many thought the culture was toxic and it would be a 3 year rebuild. He could've folded with their bad start last year...and even when their QB went down they played some solid football and were ranked #25 when they played us. He wasn't great...but UofL fans have unreasonable expectations. They think they're a title contender and that the Lamar 2016 team should be a normal occurrence for them. THey can't even realize that 3 bowl games for a coach taking over a 2-10 team in a P5 league was a solid rebuilding job.

Good analysis. You hit on a key point with Brohm: he won one big game nearly every year. He beat Ohio state. He beat Tennessee. Etc.

I'll also add that he was very good in Purdue's rivalry game with Indiana, as he dominated that series.

My Purdue friends will also tell me that he lost at least one game every year that he had no business losing (Rutgers, Illinois, etc).

So, if that trend continues, expect a UL team that is sky high for the UK game and probably beats a Clemson or FSU on occasion while also regularly losing to teams like Boston College or Wake Forest.

 

[HoptownCat93]

Good analysis. You hit on a key point with Brohm: he won one big game nearly every year. He beat Ohio state. He beat Tennessee. Etc.

I'll also add that he was very good in Purdue's rivalry game with Indiana, as he dominated that series.

My Purdue friends will also tell me that he lost at least one game every year that he had no business losing (Rutgers, Illinois, etc).

So, if that trend continues, expect a UL team that is sky high for the UK game and probably beats a Clemson or FSU on occasion while also regularly losing to teams like Boston College or Wake Forest.

Will be interesting to see what happens if the ACC collapses and Louisville's revenue goes way down...while Purdue could be getting $100 million a year in TV revenue and UofL is back to a G5 league with way less resources.

 

[Blouman]

Will be interesting to see what happens if the ACC collapses and Louisville's revenue goes way down...while Purdue could be getting $100 million a year in TV revenue and UofL is back to a G5 league with way less resources.

UL's revenue has been way down for the past few seasons. Half filled stadium which they
needlessly expanded twice, half filled basketball arena. They're still paying basketball
coaches they've fired. Financially they're skating on thin ice.

 

[HoptownCat93]

UL's revenue has been way down for the past few seasons. Half filled stadium which they
needlessly expanded twice, half filled basketball arena. They're still paying basketball
coaches they've fired. Financially they're skating on thin ice.

But the ACC money is still a big change over their Big Least & AAC days. Getting guaranteed $30-40 million from TV money helps them not have to rely as heavily on donors and attendance.

 

[Cardinals19701]

UL's revenue has been way down for the past few seasons. Half filled stadium which they
needlessly expanded twice, half filled basketball arena. They're still paying basketball
coaches they've fired. Financially they're skating on thin ice.

Strange that the web link below show Louisvilles revenue has increased every year since 2017 minus 2021. ( Covid Shutdowns).

University of Louisville | College Athletics Database

 

[shano]

They have never been one yet soooo.

 

[shano]

UK has UL’s Super Bowl is hilarious, yes this years schedule is weaker but as far as a Super Bowl game I would put Notre Dame above UK this year.

2024- Clemson, Notre Dame, UNC & UK, now Miami could enter the mix if they get it going.

2025- FSU, UK and maybe Miami

2026- Georgia, Clemson, FSU, UK and maybe Miami

It can't be your Superbowl when you are getting your ass beat as bad as the cards have 😂

 

[Blueworld_3.0]

In the years when they don't play Clemson, FSU and UNC they'll win 8-9 games. In the years where the schedule bites them they'll get 6-7.
When the SEC goes to a 9 game conference schedule they may not have to worry about UK anymore.
Except in a bowl game.

 

[Blue Bigfoot]

They will be more dynamic offensively, but I see defense getting worse over time. I basically think he is a lot like Petrino, and the results will be the same. They will have a good record in the ACC, but I suspect we will continue to smash them. I don't get the hype.

 

[John_dromo1]

I think he means the bad situation of UL being a dog crap school.... prob that situation.

It isn‘t a “dog crap” school. I graduated there. My daughter just got her law degree there. When was the last time you visited the campus, if ever?

 

[Dallas-Wild]

It isn‘t a “dog crap” school. I graduated there. My daughter just got her law degree there. When was the last time you visited the campus, if ever?

No one gives a shit, but congrats to your daughter.

 

[CatPatrick13]

It isn‘t a “dog crap” school. I graduated there. My daughter just got her law degree there. When was the last time you visited the campus, if ever?

lol I was there this weekend dude. Have you ever seen another campus?

 

[John_dromo1]

lol I was there this weekend dude. Have you ever seen another campus?

Many.

 

[CatPatrick13]

Many.

Then you know that the campus at UL is typical for an inner city school and really doesn't compare to a typical SEC, ACC, BIG10, BIG 12, or PAC12 university.

 

[gobigblue812]

Brohm will win. Some years he will win big. Other years not so much. He's a good coach and they are doing well with NIL. The rivalry is about to seriously burn with gasoline. They will come into the game hungry like we did in Stoops first couple of years. I hope we continue to place beat downs on them.

uofl will wind up in the Big12 if the ACC collapses. They aren't going back to G5, unfortunately...

 

[KYWC36]

Looking at these responses, I think there is a lot of irrational fanhood, over confidence and individuals with blue glasses on. I hate Louisville, but Brohm is a good coach. He is off to an excellent start on recruiting/roster improving and while the ACC is much better than this board seems to believe, its still not as hard as the big 10. He is going to win in the ACC and if Satterfield can get 8 wins, I am really not sure why anyone would doubt that. Looking at their schedule and roster improvement, I think we will see a much better team as soon as next season. Now, does that mean that we cannot maintain our dominance, absolutely not, but I think a lot of people in this chat are fooling themselves by essentially dismissing Louisville

 

[502 Wildcat]

Overall, he is better in just about every facet relative to Scott Satterfield.

He will get more local talent, especially in Jefferson County.

He will have a very favorable/achievable path to the NY6 every season, something we don't have the luxury of, especially when Texas and Oklahoma arrive.

He's beloved in Kentucky, and a Louisville Legacy.

Really good fit for Louisville and I think the days of us just taking the preseason sharpie and marking a W next to Louisville on the schedule are numbered. It's going to be more competitive going forward.

The problem for Brohm is this: this ain't the early/mid 2000's anymore. UK has also gotten serious about football, and as prominent as the Brohm name is in Kentucky, Vince Marrow has this state on lock due to his unbelievable relationship with HS coaches across the state. I still look for Vince to get first dibs on pretty much every recruit that comes out of Kentucky.

 

[Wildcat40229]

Overall, he is better in just about every facet relative to Scott Satterfield.

He will get more local talent, especially in Jefferson County.

He will have a very favorable/achievable path to the NY6 every season, something we don't have the luxury of, especially when Texas and Oklahoma arrive.

He's beloved in Kentucky, and a Louisville Legacy.

Really good fit for Louisville and I think the days of us just taking the preseason sharpie and marking a W next to Louisville on the schedule are numbered. It's going to be more competitive going forward.

The problem for Brohm is this: this ain't the early/mid 2000's anymore. UK has also gotten serious about football, and as prominent as the Brohm name is in Kentucky, Vince Marrow has this state on lock due to his unbelievable relationship with HS coaches across the state. I still look for Vince to get first dibs on pretty much every recruit that comes out of Kentucky.

The Brohm name, locally, was a big deal 10 years ago, but today`s kids doesn`t know a whole lot about them. Vince has been in Kentucky, building relationships for years now and is probably more known giving him a "leg up" on recruiting the state. U of L will get players from Louisville, but the talent has gone down a bit from 5 years ago. It seems as though the talent has gone more towards northern Kentucky and the Lexington area where UK should own in recruiting.
Brohm will make U of L a better team, especially with their current schedule, but their defense has to improve to make a major push. They have a good starting line up, but very little backing them up.