well they did use prostitutes for recruiting purposes
do you honestly think that just happened that year
Why do Louisville fans still claim the 2013 NCAA Title?
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do you honestly think that just happened that year
I think you are wrong about players being obtained through illicit means. They used prostitutes for recruiting purposes from 2010 through 2014. Aside from the fact that paying for prostitutes is providing players with illegal benefits, it also helped them recruit players that played on the championship team. I don't get the desire to overlook their cheating. Had that been UK, I would still feel like the championship wasn't earned and we don't deserve to claim it. They cheated to get recruits and they got caught. Had they been caught before 2013, that team would have been without the services of some players and probably would not have been eligible to play in the tournament to begin with.
Fans can claim it, but the school is literally not allowed to acknowledge it.
And as a UK fan, I wouldn't acknowledge it either.
don't think so. but shoulda, coulda and woulda could have claimed a ew others among teams to include--Kansas, UNC, UCLA, Duke and Michigan as beginning thoughts. I think the 1950 UK team was barred from playing in it, so there's another one. We didn't win it, but couldn't participate either.
Sosa and McGwire used PED's to give them a drastic competitive advantage. What Louisville did was wrong and should have been punished, but did Louisville gain an unfair competitive advantage against Michigan because their players ****ed a few prostitutes? No.
Not the point. Did they break the rules? Yes or no. And that depends on your definition of advantage. Did recruits choose UofL over other schools because of that? If so, then yes, that's an advantage because if they did they wouldn't have been on the court otherwise.
UofL only has 2 Titles. That's what the records book says. That's all that matters. Do we get to claim all the wins that were vacated leading up to our probation in the late 80's and early 90's? No? Then, why should UofL be allowed to claim a title that was similarly stripped from them?
UofL only has 2 Titles.
UofL only has 2 Titles.
Right, and UNC skated for players taking fake classes. The NCAA never applies “justice” equally. Even the most ardent UofL haters on this board acknowledge that.
Ultimately, that banner will be reinstated.
You love them and you know it. That’s all you can think of and that’s all you post about.
Do you think them having strippers and such had any effect on them winning the title?
The ones defending Louisville have clearly never lived in Louisville.
What does the injustice
Please. How many “impermissible benefits” by the NCAA cash cows have been ignored? The entire thing is a sham. UofL’s mistake was not lawyering up and telling the NCAA to shove it, like UNC and Kansas. They cooperated and paid.
Did other schools provide strippers? Did it violate the rules? Yes or No? If it lured recruits to the school and those recruits played (which they did), the yes, it gave them an advantage.
I get the sentiment. I loathe UofL more than any other program not named Duke.
But, the erasing of records has always been silly to me. I attended their two NCAA games at Rupp. I watched Kevin Ware’s leg snap in two. I watched Luke Hancock shoot like Klay Thompson in Atlanta. As much as I wish those games never happened…they did. They won it, their fans felt the same way we did the previous year. You can erase the record books but you’ll never be able to erase what their fans felt in the moment.
PS - we did crush their souls the very next year and all was right with the world. Knocking them out of the tournament 2 out of 3 years will be a memory I’ll forever cherish.
That's great they felt that way. All cheaters love when their cheating pays off. While the games may have happened, they don't count. So if a person cheats at a game of poker or blackjack, does he get to keep his winnings? No, of course not.
Moral of the story: Don't cheat. Or if you're going to (I'm not naive enough to believe that no one bends the rules) don't completely shatter them. UofL completely broke the rules, and then after getting caught, they broke more!
If you cheat and are caught, you suffer the consequences and that can include losing the gains you had made while cheating.
What-aboutism..."but officer I was only doing 89, and the guy in front of me was doing 90".
I would too. This isn't the old days where we still pretend the NCAA has any morale standing.
If UCLA can claim theirs buying everyone in the 70s (worse stuff going on than UL). UNC can claim theirs faking eligibility for 30 years. Kansas having Snoop shoot sneaker money out of a t-shirt cannon. I'll give UL a pass for ignoring the NCAA nonsense cause they had some trashy hooker parties for dudes. 😄
If UCLA can claim theirs buying everyone in the 70s (worse stuff going on than UL). UNC can claim theirs faking eligibility for 30 years. Kansas having Snoop shoot sneaker money out of a t-shirt cannon. I'll give UL a pass for ignoring the NCAA nonsense cause they had some trashy hooker parties for dudes. 😄
Exactly. They wouldn't have won it had they not cheated to get their recruits. It is a tarnished and doesn't count.
I mean I’ve always thought vacating accomplishments was stupid lol. I saw it happen. Reggie bush won the heismen trophy lol I idgaf what the NCAA try’s to say
When I was at UK in the 50s, recruits on visits got laid by sorority girls that were picked to do that job. They weren't paid (as far as I know), but it is the same thing. I don't consider hiring whores for recruits the same as getting caught paying recruits, but when I was in school we paid our recruits like everyone else did. I don't like UL, but they won on the court and our fans are being disingenuous if they are going to die on the hill that they wouldn't have claimed the title if the same thing happened here.
Bingo. It has been going on for years and probably at every major college there is. I have a buddy that played football for UVA and he told me it happened on every single recruiting visit he went on
Because no one gives a shit about the NCAA. Better question is why are you worried about Louisville? I live in Knoxville surrounded by orange and I don’t think about them as often as you guys think of UL.
Again, if someone cheats at a card game, should it count? "Seeing it happen" doesn't make it ultimately valid.
So should Medina's Spirit STILL be the 2021 Derby winner even after failing a drug test, just because we all "sAw It HapPeN?"
If it was PROVEN we broke the rules and we were caught, I guess I'm one of those "disingenuous" people.
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