Whoa, watch out. Not only is he a "UK fan", but used the ol "I'm surprised you can spell" card.
You've been outed. Go away
Why did RP take the UofL job in 2001?
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Whoa, watch out. Not only is he a "UK fan", but used the ol "I'm surprised you can spell" card.
You've been outed. Go away
Pitino's personality and history is he has an inner circle. And if you are in the inner circle, he is viciously loyal. And if you are outside the circle he wouldn't walk across the street to pizz on you were you on fire. Nothing good or bad about that, it's just him. We're all different I suppose (Contrast Cal, who will talk to anyone, anywhere, from the janitor to the CEO. A true extrovert who loves people). Anyway, Avere was his accountant when he first moved to Louisville. I forget how he came to know Carmichael. At any rate they are on the inside.
This quote is funny:
"We wanted to show him the other side," Carmicle said. "We wanted to let him know that the people making a big deal about this was just a small group of jilted UK fans. Most of the state wants to embrace this."
How clueless is that? I think the combination of Pitino's ego (meaning, he knew how beloved he was before and just assumed that would for the most part continue) and the efforts of Carmichael and Terry Minors and the like to convince him any blowback would be from "just a few" did him a real disservice. That's what I always say about this. whether you think Pitino got what he had coming, or if you think the whole thing is just the very best evidence that UK fans as certifiably crazy and without perspective - doesn't matter. What matters is the reaction he got, and that continues to this day and will continue forevermore, was entirely predictable. Anyone who doesn't think so is a dummy. There are only a couple of comparisons that are valid: a coach going to/from Bama and Auburn or to/from OSU and Michigan. And the last one is questionable.
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Neue, as others have said, none of that was the case in 2001. Louisville basketball was always pretty profitable because of the sweetheart lease it had at Freedom Hall. But that was nothing compared to the fiscal fleecing that goes on with the YUM Center. Forget about sex on a restaurant tabletop, hookers paid for by coaches in the dorms, cheerleaders OD'in on heroin in the football dorm, miscreants being accepted with open arms at UofL football when no one else would take them, etc. - the real scandal at that school is that arena, it's financing, and the deal terms of its lease. And while football is pretty successful now, that wasn't the case then - when the school was only 3 years from playing in a dilapidated baseball stadium and wasn't too far from having its board debate whether it should simply drop football.
Being head basketball coach is a good gig. It doesn't suck. I don't think it's a "top 5 job" like Tom Jurich loves to say. You start with the 4 true elite programs - Duke, UK, UNC, KU. Is Louisville 5? Maybe. What about IU? UConn? Michigan State? Arizona? But it doesn't suck.....
Wow. Once again a Ky fan listening to the words of the coach just disregards it to fit whats in there tiny mind.
I have no idea guy. All i have to go by is what RP says. Im sorry im not getting my facts from some posters on a UK board lol. RP may have his issues. But im still going with what he says as fact of a conversation he had with his own wife on this day. Sorry your personal beliefs of RP and rumors you hear from a cousins friend who works at UL still in my mind does not compare this mans own words. Just stop really. Its not my opinion. All i did was pass on words from the horses mouth.
Perhaps you did not read my earlier post. I will quote it again for you-------
I just can't see a coaches former school whether they were rivals or not deprive a coach of employment where he wants to coach, especially if it had been several years . If you worked at Pepsi-cola and Coca-cola offered you a job, would it be right for Pepsi to call you a traitor or worse if you wanted to work for Coca-cola?
This may not be a good analogy, but I can't see why it is such as big deal to change jobs. Pepsi and Coke just come to my mind.
Again, this is all smoke and mirrors. Louisville is small potatoes. Just leave the state and ask people about basketball royalty. Lousiville won't even come into the conversation. Among causal fans, hell, they don't even exist.
I'm aware people inside the state, even UK fans to an extent, don't really see it. It's in your face. I've been a UK die hard my entire life and lived 45 minutes from the state line. I only understood Lousiville growing up because of my dad. They've done better promoting their image with the hiring of Pitino and the move to the ACC. But it doesn't mean they are perceived in that light, or that people outside the state see them as a power, much less a top 7 program. It's just not the case.
Everyone is going to find out when no coach worth a damn takes them, and they have horrible seasons on the horizon competing without Pitino in the ACC. Their image is going to the dogs. Whatever image they even have.
Most profitable. LMAO. smaller fan base than NCSTATE. yea ok.
Pitino suffers every day from the UK fans rejection..if he didn't care why did he give the finger to Rupp Arena after another beating..It kills him..He wants to be liked or loved..He made his bed ..or table top now wallow in it.
He went from the Penthouse to the Outhouse and as he is driven out of Louisville by NCAA sanctions I hope he remembers what he had..A pox on you .".What goes around comes around" Rick Pitino 1993 Quote..
I am a bit surprised that more people don't see this,I think they are about to find out in the next year or two
I give people from the state a pass. It's in their face where they live.
Lol. But venture outside the state, Louisville is known for baseball bats. If anyone doesn't believe it, give it a shot.
When you post something like "That's why I think....."
...that is not YOUR opinion? Wow. Are you ok? Sounds to me like you were giving an opinion, guy. Maybe you should take a look at what you posted.
We get it, RP said something about his wife in an interview. His words, yes. But right here it sure does look like you are expressing your own opinion.
Tubby was a nice guy but what he did was way wrong. I wonder why people can't understand that? I don't even really know if I can truly say he was nice. He was two-faced.
That's not true . Ivy would have LOVED to hire Rick back . They were very good and close friends plus he would have been a HERO to Ky. Fans . But there was no way Ivy could get rid of Tubby nor should he have .
Anyone could tell my so called opinion was based off what RP himself said. You tried to be cute before knowing RP had already said his wife convinced on a interview andvtry to make it out as my opinion.
Yes in my opinion i believe what RP said was true. Does that make you feel better? You jumped in on something you had no idea about.
Not true . Hagen was fired with Eddie Sutton and even Pitino was smart enough to know there was NO way Tubby Smith should be fired .
False. And like I originally said, your opinion is ridiculous. Nothing has changed.
Weird... you kept saying "hey just going by what he said, this isn't my opinion", but now you admit you had a "so called" opinion? Again, are you ok there "guy"??
Rick Pitino is a proven liar, but hey, believe him and pass along his BS as your "opinion", no matter how utterly absurd it is, if you wish.
Prove your statement..I've known Larry since 1969 and Tubby since 1989..Larry is no backstabber
First of all try spelling Cliff's name right HAGAN..Cliff resigned at David Roselle's request .
Trust me , katwatcher has been posting on here for years and she NEVER gets it . I've come to think she just wants to be a lone voice crying in the wilderness .
I don't respect Hagen enough to worry about spelling it correctly . And maybe he did officially " resign " . Lots of people do that when they are about to be fired . LOL
Hagan in Naismith Hall of Fame..I can go on but a turd like you probably won't understand it..now buzz off..I'll ignore you to eliminate a headache.
Is it wabbit season? No, it's duck season,which is what UL fans are going to be doing next year
She's the Queen of Mean..
She reminds me of Cruela Deville (spelling) in 101 Dalmations
That's just a Pitino spin to deflect any hostility for him to his wife . Remember , we're talking about Pitino here . Nothing he says can be taken at face value .
Why the name calling? I say he is two faced because he acted like he really liked the KY job and the people but he was interviewing at other places. NOTICE I didn't call you a name but I can think of several...
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No offense dude, but this statement right here is why you don't get it. If you can't see the difference between going to another school, conference or not, and going to your former school's most despised rival...I simply don't know what to tell you. I really don't
Thats ok if you don't know what to tell me. no problem
No offense dude, but this statement right here is why you don't get it. If you can't see the difference between going to another school, conference or not, and going to your former school's most despised rival...I simply don't know what to tell you. I really don't
Thats ok if you don't know what to tell me. no problem
Then, explain him negotiating with 3 other programs in secret while still collecting checks from UK. He may be a good guy but, he definitely did these things.
can you prove that..I doubt it..Tubby had an offer for 6 months from Minnesota and he did nothing with it..I cannot remember 2 additional schools and I doubt you can name them.
This is an important point.
A lot of the negative nellies over here like to paint those of us who (rightly) praise Cal as people who put "Cal above the university".
No, we love Cal because he has been great to and for every part of the university - he's been an awesome ambassador who has promoted the school and the athletic department and the treasured basketball program with every ounce of energy he has, and he's been winning at a Rupp-like rate.
He gets it, through and through.
So if he were to go and take the UL job after an NBA stint (and he would never - he's gotten first row seats to how that crumbled Rick's life), I'd be very saddened, because I want him to be a UK guy, and because he would make them great, but I would never ever ever want him to win over there.
I'd want our new coach to beat him every time by 100.
I love Cal because few figures have ever brought so much good to UK in its history.
I didn't say he was a backstabber . I didn't say anything negative at all about Ivy . I do think Ivy would have loved to hire Pitino back . But Honestly , I'm just saying what the scuttle but on message boards and and around town was back then . If you really know Ivy , and I have no reason to believe you don't , then you know ALOT more about the situation than I do .
I don't dislike Rick at all. I actually find him a semi-sympathetic character. Not that I don't like to make scandal jokes, but the point is no personal animosity.
But c'mon dude. Even Louisville fans and media admits that he lies about everything.
Or as was recently said on the Scout board - basically 'it's not so much that he lies as he is just an emotional talker - he'll feel one way in the morning and another in the evening, and the two claims he makes might contradict each other'. Lmao.
What's your beef with me man ? Cliff HagAn was presiding over the athletic program that nearly got us the Death Penalty . And since I didn't take the time to research how to spell his name you are calling me a turd ? I don't get it .Hagan in Naismith Hall of Fame..I can go on but a turd like you probably won't understand it..now buzz off..I'll ignore you to eliminate a headache.
I guess that's why I don't recall seeing any Toyota commercials on the internet game feeds! Y'all need to be careful where you shop! Maybe everyone should ask for their Big Blue Discount or the Ratino Special.
I don't think anyone is doubting that he said exactly what you wrote. But I don't think anyone, anywhere truly believes a word the man says. Certainly, not even his wife. I mean, he's violated most oaths made to God. Why would he NOT lie?
spare me the Media makes him a victim..He's calculating sociopath..
He may be a cartoon character but it isn't my name so you still called me a name. Is that too hard for you to understand? Sheesh My opinion is different from yours and that is okay, A person that is two-faced says something nice to your face and does something else behind your back. Look it up..
I didn't say that. He brought all of this down on himself. I just don't think he's evil. Is he arrogant? Yes. Does he have a history of being a sexual deviant? Yes. Is he a pathological liar? That seems pretty obvious.
But I can't worked up about him the same way that people talk about Hitler, or the way lil' brothelers talk about Cal.
That talk comes from fear - whether founded (Hitler almost taking over the world) or unfounded (UL fans thinking that Cal is out to destroy the college game and corrupt young minds when in fact he fights the current OAD system and has helped more kids and their families than UL MBB will for all eternity).
I'm not afraid of Rick. Rick is Cal's dorky brother that gets a noogie and a wedgie every time we visit. There's no threat there. He has screwed up his life royally. But he's not my idea of some great, dark, evil arch nemesis.
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