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Where is Z?

Friend he’s no menace in the paint .. not against anyone worth a wet shit

He had 10 blocks lol. Ole Miss is in the 60s in Kenpom AFTER the loss, and we had our best defensive game of the season. You don't NOT use that, especially when the team is SO bad defensively. A shot blocker can fix a LOT of problems, just like it did last night.

Edit: And they are in the top40 for adjusted offense. They are far from a team that's "not worth a shit".
 
I don't disagree with your other points.. but I think we absolutely need Ugo. He was a big part of the reason why we had our best defensive performance, against a pretty decent Ole Miss team, especially offensively.

Ugo blocked 10 shots and probably altered another 5. You have to start him now. Even if his offense is limited. If he turns into a menace in the paint, that will fix a LOT of problems. Big Zs offensive ability is very nice and promising, but it's not our glaring need right now (not with Reeves, Reed and Dilly). We desperately need a shot blocker to start to clamp teams to 60 and 70 point games.

I guess that's the difference maker to me.. we need Ugo's defense a heck of a lot more than we need Big Z's offense. And remember, Ugo is far from a finished product himself. We have yet to tap into his full potential.
If Im not mistaken when watching what little time the Clown has given him, Big Z was also blocking shots as well as rebounding. I like in the Georgia game how he jumped up and stole the inbounds pass on the sideline and then threw ahead for an easy basket. In 50+ years of basketball watching, I don't think Ive ever seen anyone do that? There are so many things I can see him doing to help make us a better team. Dont tell me in the Florida game, when Mitchell couldnt throw it in the Ocean, that he couldn't have come in and helped up. Its just criminal what our supposed coach is doing to him and the team. Personally, I think its killing him with all the popularity that Reed has, and knows that Big Z would be simalar, and for some reason unkown he doesnt want that. I think its the morons way of getting back at the fans.
 
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The thing is, people want to see small ball.. and Ugo is proving to be our 5, we cam all agree on that now, right? So It's hard to put two bigs out there for the whole game (I know we've seen some Bradshaw and Ugo, and I don't really love that either).

But with Tre and Adou (and Bradshaw I guess to showcase his 4 ability).. it doesn't leave a whole lot for BigZ.

I don't love this mindset, but I sort of get it. You need Ugo, you need Tre for his ability to be a true 4, you need Reed, Reeves on the wings, you need Dilly. And yes, Cal is going to try and get DJ and Edwards going. Unfortunately, that just doesn't leave a lot of other minutes.

Maybe Cal knows he'd be back next year? I guess that's my home lol.
A 15 minute run is not the whole game. Scored 7 against Gonzaga in short minutes.
 
If Im not mistaken when watching what little time the Clown has given him, Big Z was also blocking shots as well as rebounding. I like in the Georgia game how he jumped up and stole the inbounds pass on the sideline and then threw ahead for an easy basket. In 50+ years of basketball watching, I don't think Ive ever seen anyone do that? There are so many things I can see him doing to help make us a better team. Dont tell me in the Florida game, when Mitchell couldnt throw it in the Ocean, that he couldn't have come in and helped up. Its just criminal what our supposed coach is doing to him and the team. Personally, I think its killing him with all the popularity that Reed has, and knows that Big Z would be simalar, and for some reason unkown he doesnt want that. I think its the morons way of getting back at the fans.

Well now, wait a second here.. I'm being told by a few people that Ugo's performance last night doesn't count because Ole Miss isn't a top10 team.. So what does that mean for Big Z's game against an even worse Georgia team?

I love Big Z's potential, he should be getting more minutes.. but not Ugo's minutes at the 5, IMO. Plus, that's not Big Z's natural position. He's meant to be that extremely tall stretch 4.
 
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Something needed to give. The rotation was just too crazy the way it was, and though Z in fun to watch, we have plenty of shooters without him. We need rebounds, dunks, and blocks from the C spot. Z is just not SEC-ready in that regard. Makes way too many mistakes and has zero idea what he is doing defensively.

Ugo and Bradshaw will struggle Saturday, but can you imagine what Broome would do to Big Z? He'd get broken in half.
 
Tre has been really bad offensively still. Not sure what's going on be we need him to be efficient in that pick and pop. But that wide open one he short armed in the lane and the 3 that was a foot wide were embarrassing.
Wonder if his shoulder issue wasn't why his shot has been crooked the last couple of weeks???
 
When rumors of a lineup change and shortening the rotation came up people actually believed it might mean Bradshaw and Edwards out of the lineup. Instead, the only guy cut from the rotation was Z and he didn't like having two of his 3 best players starting so he went back to only one of his best 3 players starting. Auburn will jump on UK from the start and the whole will be too big when he puts the best players in the game.
 
Tre has been really bad offensively still. Not sure what's going on be we need him to be efficient in that pick and pop. But that wide open one he short armed in the lane and the 3 that was a foot wide were embarrassing.
back problems has a big affect on all of that.
 
Tre has been really bad offensively still. Not sure what's going on be we need him to be efficient in that pick and pop. But that wide open one he short armed in the lane and the 3 that was a foot wide were embarrassing.
He is / was playing hurt. If your back was hurting you would struggle to. Also, he led us in rebounds (7) when he went out. He had a 3 rim out, shot was pure. Not to mention his leadership and toughness inside. He fights for every ball, which is why he is our leading rebounder, not just last night, but for the year. A lot of times he gives up size and weight, but he knows how to get position and fight. Can't teach that, that is a SR. leader for you.
 
I would like to know what Bradshaw does better than Z ? I can't find that answer other thsn maybe end to end speed. I don't know
 
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What does that matter. We have guys that can shoot. We need guys that can play a lick of defense. And he can't.












I bet he would shoot better than any player we have now from 3pt. Plus his point of release is so high not many players could guard him
 
C- Mitchell
PF- Ivisic
SF- Reeves
SG- Reed
PG- Dillingham

thats 4 players over 40% from 3pt range and Mitchell was around 40% before his last 3 games he's played in when he hasnt been healthy .... Thats also 4 guys who can Drive by their man.. ..granted Reeves isnt as good finishing at the rim but his floater is deadly so lets count that.........

I dont know how the flying f*** anyone who really wanted a title wouldnt play that group at least 20 minutes together every game. that time and in practice working them on defense hard, making them run if they dont focus on defense to the point they are too afraid not to focus in games on defense.
 
Cal is afraid Z might come in and make a bunch of 3s.
I think this is the truth of the situation. If Z were to have had a few minutes in the games he has been eligible for, he might have gotten better at the issues he has. Z's first game gave us a glimpse of what he could do. Maybe Cal saw that and already having a surprise with Reed being good, he didn't want his 5 stars to be upstaged, so that means keeping Edwards and Bradshaw in the game and "letting them work through their issues", while sticking Z on the bench. I do believe that promises were made...whether to Klutch, or to Bradshaw and Edwards. I personally think that Cal didn't want to take the chance of Z getting much better after his first game (he was still somewhat raw and needed work in some areas) and risking having to sit his two 5 stars.

GO BIG BLUE!!!💙💙💙
 
Feel bad for Z. Missed 1/2 the season waiting, then injuries and illness. I agree he is talented but what I heard and saw last night was Cal saying "we don't have time waiting for defense to come around". And frankly, March is pretty much here. Stretch run time is now, especially when you look at our schedule.

Agree or disagree with Cal ..... the time to get their house in order is now. Personally I don't see how he can go from 1 week saying Z is a difference maker, to the next week saying he's not part of the rotation going forward. But I don't agree that Cal WANTS to lose. Sometimes an abundance of riches makes fools of us all.
 
It's pretty obvious. And he's the slowest guy as well. I wish we were solid enough to have some blowouts coming so he could get more PT but we don't have any of those left. As if we had any in the first place. I will say he should get some of Bradshaws minutes, though. Ugo is our best big by a mile but he's obviously limited. But we don't need Ugo to score.
He should play Saturday then, I am thinking that one will be a blowout...
 
He had 10 blocks lol. Ole Miss is in the 60s in Kenpom AFTER the loss, and we had our best defensive game of the season. You don't NOT use that, especially when the team is SO bad defensively. A shot blocker can fix a LOT of problems, just like it did last night.

Edit: And they are in the top40 for adjusted offense. They are far from a team that's "not worth a shit".
Good ole Kenpom to quote .. LOL ... So the one game Ugo really shows out was more impressive than Z's game of showing out ? Ugo has played 259 minutes this season , Z has played 57 . But listen hard head , no one I know is saying Z is a better defender than Ugo , or a better shot blocker , it's the insanity of not giving a player like Z a legit chance . Just a fair opportunity to make the team better . Mitchells health is a big question mark . Bradshaw is .. well , the guy who should have had his minutes shaved . Z shows more against Georgia than Bradshaw has this entire season. We only got a glimpse of what Z can do , and know he doesnt deserve any minutes in the rotation at all ? After his fight for eligibility and glimpse of what type of player he can be ? Buried ? Not even allowed 8 min a game ? I've heard of agenda posters. -- they are out there , but we have an AGENDA coach . and it's related to NBA potential not Kentucky wins . And that shouldn't be tolerated .
And please keep me posted how Ugo does every game . We shall see who is correct whether Z should;d have been getting 20-25 min a game . And how Ugo does in every game
 
Good ole Kenpom to quote .. LOL ... So the one game Ugo really shows out was more impressive than Z's game of showing out ? Ugo has played 259 minutes this season , Z has played 57 . But listen hard head , no one I know is saying Z is a better defender than Ugo , or a better shot blocker , it's the insanity of not giving a player like Z a legit chance . Just a fair opportunity to make the team better . Mitchells health is a big question mark . Bradshaw is .. well , the guy who should have had his minutes shaved . Z shows more against Georgia than Bradshaw has this entire season. We only got a glimpse of what Z can do , and know he doesnt deserve any minutes in the rotation at all ? After his fight for eligibility and glimpse of what type of player he can be ? Buried ? Not even allowed 8 min a game ? I've heard of agenda posters. -- they are out there , but we have an AGENDA coach . and it's related to NBA potential not Kentucky wins . And that shouldn't be tolerated .
And please keep me posted how Ugo does every game . We shall see who is correct whether Z should;d have been getting 20-25 min a game . And how Ugo does in every game

Well one of those games was two nights ago, and the other was 3 weeks ago lol. You have to at least LOOK at the trends. It's hard to look at this objectively and think that BigZ is the one trending up and not Ugo. Onyenso really seems to have picked up his play, a guy who also is very raw and doesn't have a ton of experience.

I have no idea if Ugo will ever play like this again. But I do know we need his defense big time. His last 5 games he's averaging like 5pts, 6.5r, and 5 blocks on about 22mpg, with only 1.5 fouls per game. Get him 30 minutes and you could be looking at a very nice defensive piece which we really need. His shooting splits are also pretty nice for someone who was tabbed at being unplayable on that end of the floor: nearly 50% FG, and 71% from free throws, no 3's taken. That's certainly not a BAD shooting split for a raw big man.

This really isn't a debate about Ugo vs Big Z anyways.. it should be about BigZ getting minutes over Bradshaw, which I fully agree with.
 
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The trend is Cal burying a player as good as Big Z, Can you imagine any other team in the SEC NOT playing a guy like him ? Just a blanket refusal .. sorry , not playing ya , dont care how you caused one of the brightest moments of the rather dim season .. you are done . finished . You set Rupp Arena on absolute fire .. go away . Thats where we are .
 
Auburn plays 10 guys and they're all good. Pearl knows how to manage them. Cal can't. He's washed.
They dont have the high end talent that we have lol. We need our best guys on the floor for longer stretches. Not a constant 9 or 10 man swaps.
 
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