Z had 18pts and 10 rebs in his last 23 mins he's played 2 previous games. In those games Ugos had 5pts 8 rebs in 32 mins.
Where is Z?
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And Fat CCC will want credit for it all
Cal wants a traditional big as his centerpiece in the front court come hell or high water.
He has no idea or desire how to utilize Zs skillset. Any amount of questioning from the fandom over this likely causes Cal to just dig in his heels more out of spite on the issue.
Z will absolutely thrive professionally. He should bounce after this season regardless. Sadly, he’s wasting his time here.
He has no idea or desire how to utilize Zs skillset. Any amount of questioning from the fandom over this likely causes Cal to just dig in his heels more out of spite on the issue.
Z will absolutely thrive professionally. He should bounce after this season regardless. Sadly, he’s wasting his time here.
I caught that too. It’s like Z is the only dude left outside of Hart who doesn’t exist now.
Cal is afraid Z might come in and make a bunch of 3s.
Big Z sucks on defense? I guess Ugo and Bradshaw shut down Gonzaga's bigs in the second half when Big Z didn't play then?
It's pretty obvious. And he's the slowest guy as well. I wish we were solid enough to have some blowouts coming so he could get more PT but we don't have any of those left. As if we had any in the first place. I will say he should get some of Bradshaws minutes, though. Ugo is our best big by a mile but he's obviously limited. But we don't need Ugo to score.
Edwards was permitted to crap the bed game after game while getting 25+ minutes. Z gets spot minutes, no decent sample size, still blocks some shots and gets some rebounds while shooting the lights out, and our Calboi jerk fans instantly throw him under the bus because Cal does. Just goes to show, those who parrot Cal talking points and support his decisions are dumber than he is.
I always thought Cal took great pride in being able to develop talent…? You have a difference maker on the bench, needs some improvements, but take zero interest in developing. What’s that say about Cal?
Z is better offensively today than anyone except Rob and Reed. And by far. After seeing Bradshaw get murdered by Gonzaga I can’t see how D can be used as an excuse to keep Z off the court.
Z has been very efficient offensively and on the boards in limited minutes. At minimum, he should be getting some back up minutes at the 4 and 5 spot....used properly as a stretch big. Our HOF coach seems to think otherwise as he's stuck in a 1980's big man paradigm.
And Bradshaw got rewarded with 13 min tonight. Did Z even play?
What do Bradshaw and Edwards add to the team that Z doesn't?
No doubt. He just looks lost out there. But the offense and rebounding are good enough that it’s hard to not want him out there, hoping with more live action he learns where to be.
Not letting him play last night just gives me a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach!! Imagine how he feels watching "tippy toes" Bradshaw come in and get minutes, when big Z has done more in 20 minutes of playing time than Bradshaw has all season long. Its just freaking criminal!! Anybody with any sense at all can see that he would be a tremendous help to us; so that leaves out our CCC.
I’m glad I didn’t watch , and I won’t be watching any future games , happy to avoid being pissed off off the obvious screwing of a what could be a difference maker , since Ugo and AB aren’t ready . Z might not be either but we will never know — so all you bashers enjoy another 10 loss season , no Sec title , a loss agsin in the SECT and no final four . You are firmly on Team Cal and stuck with him .. I’m the opposite of Big Z .. I’m free now .
It seems many have forgotten he's only been playing a few weeks now.
He's hiding behind the billboard.
However this season turns out, it is obvious once again that Cal puts draft ahead of the UK program. Should be grounds for firing with cause.
However this season turns out, it is obvious once again that Cal puts draft ahead of the UK program. Should be grounds for firing with cause.
Doesn't know how to use him...he's closer to a 3 than a 5...
Z would be much more serviceable in a zone on defense and playing as a 3 on offense, because that's clearly his skillset...however, that's not on the menu here.
Learn to eat what Cal feeds you. Our 7 footers had 5 rebounds tonight. Of course Big Z should have got some clock. This team ain't built for March, idgas what Cal says.
Oh shit, brought out the facts for the Calipari nut hugger express.
There isn't 1 player that isn't lost on defense. but let's single out Z, sound just like this ignorant coach. I guess Z is this years whipping boy. Every year ccc has to find someone to blame for his total ineptness. ANY other coach in college would be playing Z, allowing him to improve............NOT this two faced used car salesman.
has to keep those promises to the handlers.........ccc wouldn't want to lie to them, only the fans
maybe if he played for a "coach" that actually taught him something, he might be better
you are correct, he has wasted his time playing for the worst coach in college
Embarrassing what this kid had to endure to play for UK & to be treated like this
The thing is, people want to see small ball.. and Ugo is proving to be our 5, we cam all agree on that now, right? So It's hard to put two bigs out there for the whole game (I know we've seen some Bradshaw and Ugo, and I don't really love that either).
But with Tre and Adou (and Bradshaw I guess to showcase his 4 ability).. it doesn't leave a whole lot for BigZ.
I don't love this mindset, but I sort of get it. You need Ugo, you need Tre for his ability to be a true 4, you need Reed, Reeves on the wings, you need Dilly. And yes, Cal is going to try and get DJ and Edwards going. Unfortunately, that just doesn't leave a lot of other minutes.
Maybe Cal knows he'd be back next year? I guess that's my home lol.
But with Tre and Adou (and Bradshaw I guess to showcase his 4 ability).. it doesn't leave a whole lot for BigZ.
I don't love this mindset, but I sort of get it. You need Ugo, you need Tre for his ability to be a true 4, you need Reed, Reeves on the wings, you need Dilly. And yes, Cal is going to try and get DJ and Edwards going. Unfortunately, that just doesn't leave a lot of other minutes.
Maybe Cal knows he'd be back next year? I guess that's my home lol.
wow, 5 rebounds between two 7 footers
Z usually gets 2 or 3 even though "he is out of position"
just another indication that ccc is ignorant & plays his favorites to keep their handlers happy
I don't disagree with your other points.. but I think we absolutely need Ugo. He was a big part of the reason why we had our best defensive performance, against a pretty decent Ole Miss team, especially offensively.
Ugo blocked 10 shots and probably altered another 5. You have to start him now. Even if his offense is limited. If he turns into a menace in the paint, that will fix a LOT of problems. Big Zs offensive ability is very nice and promising, but it's not our glaring need right now (not with Reeves, Reed and Dilly). We desperately need a shot blocker to start to clamp teams to 60 and 70 point games.
I guess that's the difference maker to me.. we need Ugo's defense a heck of a lot more than we need Big Z's offense. And remember, Ugo is far from a finished product himself. We have yet to tap into his full potential.
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The love affair with Ugo is mind boggling to me . You say we need him .. I see a project that has next to zero basketball IQ . He’s not a type of player , assuming he’s playing rather large chunks of time , that a team uses to get to a final four . Cals commitment to him , while not examine playing Z somewhere , ( along with bringing JE along much much slower ) has wrecked this season - one that tremendous promise
And he’ll do it by being the player that he is. Not by a coach trying to force a square peg into a round hole.
Couldn't disagree more. He did something last night that hasn't been done at Rupp for like 40 years. The ability to have games with 6 or 10 blocks is always going to be valuable, and I'd further add that Cal's ONLY title here was largely due to having an elite shot blocker.
Is Big Z not a project himself for his own reasons?
If we MUST start BgZ, I'd much rather see him move to the 4 and take Tre's spot, then take Ugo's minutes.
He's closer to a 3 on offense and would be planted in the lane in a zone of defense.
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