He can be criticized or questioned. Point is he is running a high risk high reward operation here. We get these seasons 2/7. Not bad
When does Cal take some heat?
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He can be criticized or questioned. Point is he is running a high risk high reward operation here. We get these seasons 2/7. Not bad
This is the first time in 7 years that I am *somewhat* at odds with how he's approaching this season and the team. I think a lot of fans are feeling the same way, and I think Cal not only sees that, but knows he needs to make changes.
This loss might be what's needed to make changes, but if not this one, surely the next loss, which could be pretty soon. At some point, he's gotta sit some players for lack of effort and just not getting it. I think that's what many fans are asking for: Go to the bench, see what we have. He's still a top5 coach IMO, and that won't change even if we miss the tournament. But he made a few mistakes this year, he's making a few right now. It's fair to call them out, but in a respectful manner. He's not perfect.
Thankfully, I think changes are coming. He see's the issue, he see's that for the first time that 100% of the fans aren't 100% behind him, and maybe they have a point. The more guys like Skal, Poy, Lee cost us games.. the louder people will get.
This loss might be what's needed to make changes, but if not this one, surely the next loss, which could be pretty soon. At some point, he's gotta sit some players for lack of effort and just not getting it. I think that's what many fans are asking for: Go to the bench, see what we have. He's still a top5 coach IMO, and that won't change even if we miss the tournament. But he made a few mistakes this year, he's making a few right now. It's fair to call them out, but in a respectful manner. He's not perfect.
Thankfully, I think changes are coming. He see's the issue, he see's that for the first time that 100% of the fans aren't 100% behind him, and maybe they have a point. The more guys like Skal, Poy, Lee cost us games.. the louder people will get.
OK with 4 Final Fours in 5 years, a national title and a 22-4 record in the NCAA tournament since Cal's been here? Yes, I believe I'm OK with this.
No one likes losing to crappy teams like Tennessee and Auburn but the season isn't over yet. After last season, you would think our fanbase would realize that the regular season is basically meaningless but I guess not.
Well said. You are one of the posters that has been very hesitant to question anything around Cal's decisions as a coach so I know how hard this post was for you to write. Its ok, doesn't mean you don't like Cal. But absolutely he's made some head scratching decisions as of late. Difference between you and me, I noticed it just a little earlier. Lets hope he makes adjustments.
Attention everyone: because of the above stated credentials for Coach Cal, he is off limits for any kind of criticism. You are not allowed to question anything he does because of the aforementioned accomplishments. Once you make 4 final fours you basically never make a mistake again and even if it appears you have, you actually didn't.
Weren't you the one that said Coach Cal is the best offensive minded coach in all of basketball?
I honestly question the intelligence of some of our fans. I'm fine with people being frustrated with the team this season and even questioning some of Calipari's decisions. But in no way should his seat being even lukewarm, let alone warm. Even typing that sentence makes me cringe sooo hard.
Criticize him all you want. But ask if he should start taking some heat, implying that he's on a hot seat of some sort, and I'm going to call you out for stupidity.
When does coach k take heat. When does izzo take heat..he lost to a 10 loss nebraska. In other words dumb post.
All this time, I have been thinking that because we didn't have a preseason, our growing pains would be seen. I thought we crossed that bridge with our recent streak of good play.
Well, this one is hard to explain, and Cal is working on those issues.
Tennessee played above their expectations last night, and Barnes was mic'd, not saying anything special. They didn't do anything special. They just took what was given to them, and that was 34 FTs.
I hated that Briscoe foul, but Murray was given a pass on 3 traveling violations, so can't worry about that.
We have got to remove that part of the game to be effective. I don't think I've ever seen a big lead dissipate so fast after we blistered them for 15 minutes. They had no answers at that point and we bailed them out.
Well, this one is hard to explain, and Cal is working on those issues.
Tennessee played above their expectations last night, and Barnes was mic'd, not saying anything special. They didn't do anything special. They just took what was given to them, and that was 34 FTs.
I hated that Briscoe foul, but Murray was given a pass on 3 traveling violations, so can't worry about that.
We have got to remove that part of the game to be effective. I don't think I've ever seen a big lead dissipate so fast after we blistered them for 15 minutes. They had no answers at that point and we bailed them out.
Im with you, and have actually said earlier in the thread that its preposterous for him to be on any kind of hot seat.
I said he was the best coach in the country to be exact. I ain't afraid to say it. Unlike you gutless. You don't have the stones. Still waiting for you to say who is better Nancy.
x 100000000000000000000000000In my haste of posting I typed 10 regular season losses when that is in fact incorrect. That being said we are steam rolling toward our 3rd 10 plus loss season in the last 4 years and we ended another season with 9 losses. Sorry was not that far off base but the next time I am drinking and ticked off I will do better fact checking just for you if it makes you feel better. Also we have 6 currently not 5, and I am projecting more losses to come to get us to 10 for this year.
Of course you can be mad about whatever you want. But one of those 10 loss seasons, we made it to the championship game.
And it isn't about me feeling better. I feel fine. It's about being accurate if you want to criticize. It's the least you can do.
Calipari takes heat all the time. I'm not sure where the OP hangs out, but UK fans are not the most patient/forgiving bunch. We have a delusional segment of the fanbase who think we should be in the Final Four and competing for a national title every season. Cal looks like he is about to fall to a "terrible" 4/7 in that category of unrealistic expectations. To be fair, Cal's a victim of his own success a bit there with 4 FF's in 5 seasons. For me personally, after losing to UCLA and OSU I knew this team was not that good...at KU was nice, but they have lost 4 games already themselves. This team has no front court talent compared to Cal's better teams. Losing to OSU on a neutral court, @AU and @UT is unacceptable, just like losing to that terrible SC team was 2 years ago. Now that team went to the natty title game and maybe wins it if healthy (and still came close hurt/wounded), but I do not see the same outcome for this bunch. Sweet 16, Elite 8 at MOST IMO and that is me being super glass half full. In reality I'd say they lose in the 2nd round if you asked me today.
Now if the OP means like real heat, like job on the hotseat heat? That will never happen IMO. Cal's job is about as safe as you can get at a major college program other than someone like Coach K or maybe Roy Boy at UNC and goofball B at Syracuse. I don't think any intelligent sports writers or commentators (even the Cal haters) will ever say the words "Should UK think about moving on or should they at least think about it?" anytime soon.
Now if the OP means like real heat, like job on the hotseat heat? That will never happen IMO. Cal's job is about as safe as you can get at a major college program other than someone like Coach K or maybe Roy Boy at UNC and goofball B at Syracuse. I don't think any intelligent sports writers or commentators (even the Cal haters) will ever say the words "Should UK think about moving on or should they at least think about it?" anytime soon.
I'm lost. I'm reading some of these posts and you'd think THIS SEASON is already over..
I remember two years ago, we would lose a late season game to South Carolina. Was the worst loss that entire season. We'd go on to lose to Florida not once but twice. We enter the tournament as an 8 seed and go on a simply amazing run.
Cal has been here 6 full seasons. 4/6 final fours and an elite 8 isn't bad.
Don't be quick to lump this season as a failure just yet
I remember two years ago, we would lose a late season game to South Carolina. Was the worst loss that entire season. We'd go on to lose to Florida not once but twice. We enter the tournament as an 8 seed and go on a simply amazing run.
Cal has been here 6 full seasons. 4/6 final fours and an elite 8 isn't bad.
Don't be quick to lump this season as a failure just yet
If we aren't winning with Alex, Lee, Skal, Murray, Ulis, Willis and Briscoe you really think we are gonna win with Hawkins, Tai, Humphires, EJ, and Johnny David? lol
I can't believe some of the crap I read on this board. Look at what Cal has done at this school. What idiot would accept the coaching job, after this moronic fan base ran Cal out of town? You better prepare yourself for the dark ages. When Cal leaves, this school is going to take a major hit. One that will probably last years.
Cmon man, addition by subtraction? Those kids led us to 2 final freaking fours, and people continue to shit on them. Unreal.
Yea even the mere mention of a hot seat in relation to Coach Cal is absurd & insulting on every level. His results speak for themselves. My only comments have been about maybe incorporating some zone.
At the same time I know that it is always tough to win on the road in conference. We overcome that obstacle in some years by simply out talenting most everyone we play in the SEC by a significant margin. Not the case this year so some losses are to be expected.
We probably shouldn't expect to come from 21 ahead to do so, though, especially against a league stiff.
He knows it, we know it, the world knows it so what's the big deal about posting it? Is he supposed to drop by your house and personally apologize. Please hold your breath until he does.
Willis got and missed several of wide open three pointers. Also, it's not all on Cal or the guards to get Willis an open look. Willis needs to not be so one dimensional and move without the ball.
All Willis does on offense is stand in the corner, waiting on one of the guards to create, draw his (Willis) man and free him up for a shot. Not everything is everyone else's fault. Willis is just as much to blame.
Again who is he going to put in? He is already planned everyone's favorite, Willis
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He even followed it up with point remains. Rounding up the losses completely invalidated his point about 10 losses.
Yea I am sure coach K would have his best shooter stand in the corner all game. I am sure he would.
Losses are irrelevant when 2 of the 3 seasons you mentioned ended in a national title game appearance and a de facto one in 2011 against UCONN in the Final Four. You can hang your hat on the NIT one after Noel got hurt (that team was not going anywhere anyways), and this year most likely. Still, 5 good seasons out of 7 years is not bad for any program.
We are not talking Tubby, when he lost 10+ and flamed out early in the NCAA Tournament most years. Why do UK fans say all that matters is natty titles and final fours, but yet you are wanting to talk about meaningless regular season losses? What is your agenda here? You clearly have one.
And I'm pretty sure Cal isn't making Willis stand in the corner the whole game. He stands in the corner the entire game because he's a spot up shooter and that's it. He can't do anything else.
Yeah, Willis is the best shooter on the team. Yeah, Willis spreads out the defense and opens up driving lanes. But the fact still remains, he's one dimensional, doesn't move without the ball and absolutely cannot create his own shot. Which means if he is missing his open shots like he was last night, then he is pretty much worthless on offense.
And what does K have to do with anything? He had the #1 recruiting class this year and Duke is having a worse year than UK. So according to you idiots he can't coach and should be on the hot seat.
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