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I don’t believe he just rolls the ball out. I think it’s just time for him to retire but I can separate the things he’s done in the past from what I believe him to be today.

If you want to forget how ahead of the game he was at one point even when he had lower or similar talent to his opponents that’s fine. I’ll just call him out for being past his prime.
If by having WWW “influence “ players to play for John Calipari, then I somewhat agree about him being “ahead of the game” . But in reality, John Wooden used that model decades ago.
 
When we got ahead of UNC by five points after getting Roofereed in the first half. Roy calls timeout and UNC goes up seven by playing zone. Cal tells on himself after the game, saying he told his assistant "I bet he's going zone." If you knew that, why didn't you adjust? You never act. You react after the damage is done.
 
Honestly, he does have some coaching skills and even some good coaching skills if I'm not speaking in hyperbole.

But he also has a lot of bad coaching skills. Tearing down players without building them back up and forcing round pegs into square holes in a lot of different ways. And his notorious micromanaging.

What I'm getting at is that in some ways we would actually be better off if he just rolled the ball out. Let the players use what they learned in high school and AAU and as far as what they needed beyond that, just figure it out themselves on the court and in team meetings.

It would be hyperbole for me to say we would be better off if Cal really would just roll the balls out. But as far as whether we wouldn't be better off in -some- ways if he did that? I'm gonna be a hard sell there.
 
His inability to win the Title in 2015 with a overwhelming roster of talent sealed the deal that he was a very poor bench coach for me. You'd have to be horrible not to win the championship with that group. And as time has gone on, it looks even worse. Not one but, TWO future All Stars and how many from that team would spend at least some time on a NBA roster?
That was just the beginning for me.
Seems like a tough standard when you win 38 in a row and then one loss is considered proof you are a very poor bench coach.
 
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I think the guy could coach but the game has passed him by. He was never a great x and o guy. Sure, as one poster pointed out, there’s been times where he has outcoached his opponent but those times are the exceptions to the rules. There’s been far too many times, where an average X and O guy would’ve won games Cal lost. For the most part, he needs the talent to overcome his deficiency. He’s stubborn and arrogant. Those traits that once worked for him now hinder him.
 
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When, as Tigers HC, he blew the Memphis NC against KU after being up 9 points with 2:12 to go.

ZERO proficiency in Xs & Os.

With overwhelming talent, we have a chance. Without—we’re helpless, hapless, and hopeless under Cal.

GBB!
Can't put that one on him. Tigers missed something like 9 free throws in the last 2 minutes. Not sure what the coach can do about that 🤷‍♂️
 
It was either after beating #1 overall Ohio State in 2011, beating a better-seeded UNC-Cheats the same year, winning the championship in 2012, taking an 8-seed to the Final Game in 2014, going 38-0 in 2015 despite losing a top veteran, coming within a single play of the Final Four in 2017 and 2019 or winning the SEC regular season by a comfortable margin in 2020 before the post-season was canceled. I guess I can’t put my finger on the exact game, but somewhere in there.
Cal definitely has his flaws. Every coach does.

His last several years have been excruciatingly disappointing as well. Heck, I still have nightmares about the 2015 game for that matter.

I can't understand why some want to pretend he has always sucked though.

The games you cited. Taking the UMass team to the Final Four. Owning Pitino.

A lot of evidence to suggest that at one time, he was a very effective coach, and even an innovator.

It sure doesn't seem likely at all to me at this point, but I still pray he finds a way to innovate again and get us back on top where we belong!

I may be crazy, but I also still think if this year turns out to be a bust, that he'll pack his bags and leave on his own.

Hopefully, we are phenomenally successful and never have to find out. 🙏
 
that Cal just rolls the ball out on the floor? I think West Virginia was the first glimpse but we were winning so I never paid too much attention to it. Thoughts.
2013 I realized his system doesn't really work and I expected no more titles from him at that point. Being a bad coach is a new thing for him. I'd say I realized that in 2014. He became fat, happy and lazy.
 
He doesn’t roll the balls out but it was obvious that his actual in game coaching and planning became stale and bad was in the summer games losing to Canada and 1 player while never switching defenses or changing anything. It’s like he thought if he let The kid destroy em, he’d come to UK LoL
 
Give Calipari "superior" talent and he can win. Give him "good" talent...? Calipari is/was a great BB recruiter. I wouldn't call him a great BB coach.
 
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