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When Cal gets leads...

Same thing that happened last year against Wisconsin. I really wish he would allow his teams to blow someone out, but he doesn't. For w/e reason
 
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Same thing that happened last year against Wisconsin. I really wish he would allow his teams to blow someone out, but he doesn't. For w/e reason

I disagree here. We played completely out of control after getting up by 16 and look what that got us? We weren't slowing it down. We just were taking terrible shots and missing them. Anyway, enough fun for today. Off to celebrate the win.
 
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We were up by 14 against Kansas at halftime in title game and won by 8....think it actually got a lot closer than that down the stretch IIRC
 
I feel like Cal milks leads , that's fine as it's his choice . It's ok to blow teams out to ensure a win , I'm not talking about today's game on that either . The Kansas title game is the best example of letting a team back in when you are much better than they are . I don't know if I've ever disagreed with Cal on very much but I would approach those situations differently .
 
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I disagree here. We played completely out of control after getting up by 16 and look what that got us? We weren't slowing it down. We just were taking terrible shots and missing them. Anyway, enough fun for today. Off to celebrate the win.

One player name Murray played out of control and should have been benched until he was willing to play team ball.
 
It is sometimes frustrating that Cal likes to slow it down late in games with the lead, but can you really complain about the results? Sure, there's been a couple that have gotten away, but there have been many, many, many more that have been iced away for the W. For whatever reason Cal prefers that method best, and considering his results, it's kind of hard to disagree with his methods.
 
I like Cal, HOF coach and all of that, don't want anyone else but IMO he is the worst Bball coach in div 1 in the closing minutes of a game. At the 2:37 mark we had a five point lead and the ball, we immediately turned it over on a 5 sec. call. On our next possession we ran the clock down and threw up a prayer, on our next one we got a shot clock violation and after that I don't remember. That is how you turn a close game into a nail biter
 
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One player name Murray played out of control and should have been benched until he was willing to play team ball.
So which is it - Cal suffocates his team when he has a lead and won't let them play, or he allows his kids to go crazed and out of control and refuses to reign them in?

Really wish the "I know he wins all the time but I'm still not impressed with Cal" crowd would settle on a non-conflicting line of thought......
 
I like Cal, HOF coach and all of that, don't want anyone else but IMO he is the worst Bball coach in div 1. At the 2:37 mark we had a five point lead and the ball, we immediately turned it over on a 5 sec. call. On our next possession we ran the clock down and threw up a prayer, on our next one we got a shot clock violation and after that I don't remember. That is how you turn a close game into a nail biter

Yeah, Cal told Ulis to have a 5 second inbound violation, followed by the team to take a bad shot. Perfect design.
 
I like Cal, HOF coach and all of that, don't want anyone else but IMO he is the worst Bball coach in div 1. At the 2:37 mark we had a five point lead and the ball, we immediately turned it over on a 5 sec. call. On our next possession we ran the clock down and threw up a prayer, on our next one we got a shot clock violation and after that I don't remember. That is how you turn a close game into a nail biter

Did this guy just say Cal is the west bball coach in division 1? Color me confused.
 
I like Cal, HOF coach and all of that, don't want anyone else but IMO he is the worst Bball coach in div 1. At the 2:37 mark we had a five point lead and the ball, we immediately turned it over on a 5 sec. call. On our next possession we ran the clock down and threw up a prayer, on our next one we got a shot clock violation and after that I don't remember. That is how you turn a close game into a nail biter

do you think cal dialed up a 5 second call? guys have to make the play. cut and make the pass. its not hard. not on cal...its on players for not executing.
 
I like Cal, HOF coach and all of that, don't want anyone else but IMO he is the worst Bball coach in div 1 in the closing minutes of a game. At the 2:37 mark we had a five point lead and the ball, we immediately turned it over on a 5 sec. call. On our next possession we ran the clock down and threw up a prayer, on our next one we got a shot clock violation and after that I don't remember. That is how you turn a close game into a nail biter


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You are right, I need to go back and edit, I left a very important part out
What you added didn't help your case much. Lets see, we WON today. We won 38 games last season. Been to 4 out of the last 5 Final Fours. Yeah, terrible coach in the last 2 minutes.[roll]
 
do you think cal dialed up a 5 second call? guys have to make the play. cut and make the pass. its not hard. not on cal...its on players for not executing.
They had just come out of an incredibly long TO, they had a 5 pt lead with 2:30 left in the game. They came out like they didn't know what to do against the pressure, JMO of course, but that's as much on the coach as the players, he had all the time in the world to prepare them
 
What you added didn't help your case much. Lets see, we WON today. We won 38 games last season. Been to 4 out of the last 5 Final Fours. Yeah, terrible coach in the last 2 minutes.[roll]
He blew the most important game last year. What you posted doesn't mean he is a good end of game coach. He also blew Memphis's chance for a title
 
He blew the most important game last year. What you posted doesn't mean he is a good end of game coach. He also blew Memphis's chance for a title
There are actually stats that track that sort of thing, how many games a coach wins or loses when it's a close game in the last couple of minutes. Cal does very well in that stat, thank you. IIRC, he wins about 65% of the time, about the same but a little ahead of his peers (meaning other HOF or near HOF coaches). The only coach in that peer group that is far below the pack in terms of winning close games? Rick Pitino. His was just above 50%, meaning whether his genius prevailed in a tight game was about as reliable as a coin toss. It's been a few years since I looked at those stats, I suspect they've not changed much.

Did you know eye witness testimony is sometime the least reliable kind?
 
He blew the most important game last year. What you posted doesn't mean he is a good end of game coach. He also blew Memphis's chance for a title
You're not making yourself look any brighter. Just stop.
 
Just like last year when we would grab nice leads and the opposing teams would cut the lead down with a couple of minutes to go and all fans on here would accuse Coach Cal of slowing down the momentum and milking the clock. I disagree and believe that Coach Cal would never slow down the Momentum and milk the clock if we are playing good and leading in double digits.Coach Cal I believe would love to see the team to continue to play and blow out the opposing team. What I see from today is like last years Wisconsin game when we are up 6 points and we have the ball and momentum with 4 to play and we had like 3 or 4 turnovers from our guard play(Harrison Twins) and we were all hoping that Cal would bring back Ulis and Booker to finish the game. I didn't see Coach Cal in that game was trying to slow down and milk the clock vs. Wisconsin just like today when we were up 16 with 14 to go and everyone was saying the same thing. We had some bad TO's and I am not just picking on Murray but he did make some foolish plays and turnovers 8 which cut into our lead quick. We are young and we have seen Murray and how well he played in the Pan-Am games and he will get better and him and Ulis by March Madness will be the 2 best guards in NCAA play.
 
You're not making yourself look any brighter. Just stop.
You probably have some idea of how important your opinion is to me. You did not address my last post, you just stuck some garbage up.
Cal tried to milk a small lead against Wisconsin and they lost the most important game of last year, he milked the lead against UL today and gave them a chance to win, not good coaching to my mind
 
Just like last year when we would grab nice leads and the opposing teams would cut the lead down with a couple of minutes to go and all fans on here would accuse Coach Cal of slowing down the momentum and milking the clock. I disagree and believe that Coach Cal would never slow down the Momentum and milk the clock if we are playing good and leading in double digits.Coach Cal I believe would love to see the team to continue to play and blow out the opposing team. What I see from today is like last years Wisconsin game when we are up 6 points and we have the ball and momentum with 4 to play and we had like 3 or 4 turnovers from our guard play(Harrison Twins) and we were all hoping that Cal would bring back Ulis and Booker to finish the game. I didn't see Coach Cal in that game was trying to slow down and milk the clock vs. Wisconsin just like today when we were up 16 with 14 to go and everyone was saying the same thing. We had some bad TO's and I am not just picking on Murray but he did make some foolish plays and turnovers 8 which cut into our lead quick. We are young and we have seen Murray and how well he played in the Pan-Am games and he will get better and him and Ulis by March Madness will be the 2 best guards in NCAA play.
Cal always sits on a lead and starts doing it as soon as he thinks the lead is large enough for the amount of time left. Today was like the Wisconsin game, last year they dribbled out the clock and then made desperation drives attempting to draw fouls and made TO's instead
 
There are actually stats that track that sort of thing, how many games a coach wins or loses when it's a close game in the last couple of minutes. Cal does very well in that stat, thank you. IIRC, he wins about 65% of the time, about the same but a little ahead of his peers (meaning other HOF or near HOF coaches). The only coach in that peer group that is far below the pack in terms of winning close games? Rick Pitino. His was just above 50%, meaning whether his genius prevailed in a tight game was about as reliable as a coin toss. It's been a few years since I looked at those stats, I suspect they've not changed much.

Did you know eye witness testimony is sometime the least reliable kind?
My opinion is shaded because of the huge failure in the NCAA last year, almost blowing it today and the memory of other close games that he made even closer.
 
The only part of Cals coaching I don't agree with is his taking the air out of the ball at the end of games. Having said that, his close game winning % is insanely good and better than any other current coach. Most coaches do the stall ball thing. Duke fans constantly bitch about K doing it.
 
That's my only knock on Cal. Tries to play not to lose sometimes at the end of the games. Other than that I think he is a terrific coach.
 
I think the law of averages take over and you end up losing some big leads at times. When you win most of the games you coach it's going to happen sometimes. Basketball is a game of spurts and when you are playing equal or close to equal talent, that eighteen point lead probably shouldn't of gotten to eighteen and that's one reason why it tightens back up. You actually might should be impressed with the game plan for it to even get to that point.

Another factor is that Cal plays a whole lot of young kids that are not used to playing in front of those type of crowds in those type of moments. UofL was starting some kids who had been the best player on other teams for a couple of years. Those kids know how to get a basket against college kids when they need it since they have probably played 100+ games more than a lot of the UK kids. You have young kids who make young decision in new environments. We made a pretty good comeback against Ohio State, so it happens to other teams too. It's hard to keep the momentum and not give a little of it back to good teams.
 
I like Cal, HOF coach and all of that, don't want anyone else but IMO he is the worst Bball coach in div 1 in the closing minutes of a game. At the 2:37 mark we had a five point lead and the ball, we immediately turned it over on a 5 sec. call. On our next possession we ran the clock down and threw up a prayer, on our next one we got a shot clock violation and after that I don't remember. That is how you turn a close game into a nail biter
He owns your coach.
 
They had just come out of an incredibly long TO, they had a 5 pt lead with 2:30 left in the game. They came out like they didn't know what to do against the pressure, JMO of course, but that's as much on the coach as the players, he had all the time in the world to prepare them

he didnt have all the time in the world...he had 3 minutes. and what do you want cal to do exactly? murray cut here, hawkins go here. they did...and it didnt work. the other team plays too. also look at how ul holds and arm bars cutters...stuff that is fouls and not called.
 
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