Like how is that even a valid opinion?
Besides that, ,I pose the question to the board....is Reeves a Top 20 Cal era dude?
I say yes.
Whelp, there it is.....the dumbest thing I'll read today.
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Like how is that even a valid opinion?
Besides that, ,I pose the question to the board....is Reeves a Top 20 Cal era dude?
I say yes.
Briscoe? That guy was terrible.. Shouldve went to UL.
It would take a lot of effort to list Cal's top 20. Reeves is right there, but I couldn't say for sure. I can say, with certainty, that Briscoe and Hagans aren't on that list. This dude is nuts.
In no particular order:
AD
Wall
Fox
Maxey
Cousins
KAT
Murray
Ulis
MKG
Oscar
Quickley
Randle
Herro
Bledsoe
Knight
There’s 15. Might have forgotten an obvious one???
No reason Reeves isn’t right after these guys or maybe even ahead of a few of them.
So yes, top 20.
AD
Wall
Fox
Maxey
Cousins
KAT
Murray
Ulis
MKG
Oscar
Quickley
Randle
Herro
Bledsoe
Knight
There’s 15. Might have forgotten an obvious one???
No reason Reeves isn’t right after these guys or maybe even ahead of a few of them.
So yes, top 20.
Everyone values players differently. NBA success, draft status, etc... influences people's opinion. For me, the question focuses only on their impact on their UK career.
Oscar and Reeves are both top 20 players in the Cal era. Unfortunately, they had little tournament success. Nothing against Briscoe or Hagans, but Reeves is ahead of both of them in my eyes.
I read that and was like, "Wth?"
I know it's some random dude on Twitter, but I had to share that it was so mind-numbingly dumb
Cousins
Wall
Lamb
TJ
Knight
AD
MKG
Noel
Randle
Towns
Ulis
Murray
Fox
Monk
Bam
SGA
It gets tougher post 2018. I'd say Oscar, Reeves, PJ n the latter stretch. Shep was great for his one year. Herro was solid.
You see less really talented players the 2nd half od caliparis tenure and results show it post 2017 really.
Wall
Lamb
TJ
Knight
AD
MKG
Noel
Randle
Towns
Ulis
Murray
Fox
Monk
Bam
SGA
It gets tougher post 2018. I'd say Oscar, Reeves, PJ n the latter stretch. Shep was great for his one year. Herro was solid.
You see less really talented players the 2nd half od caliparis tenure and results show it post 2017 really.
He’s top 20 and if you want to see a real value in a player I’d argue it’s who produces in meaningful ways without the talent. Reeves isn’t overly athletic, he isn’t very fast, he’s not what you’d call a real talent for the game but he produced to the level of guys that have huge wing spans, crazy heights, insane verts etc.
It’s also the reason, to me, Randle is the second best player of the Calipari era. Small hands, doesn’t have the wing span, isn’t overly talented but beasted guys that were far superior by birth. Knight is the same way and probably my favorite guard of the Calipari era for that reason.
I won’t even dignify the nonsense about Hagans or Briscoe with a response. That’s just stupid.
It’s also the reason, to me, Randle is the second best player of the Calipari era. Small hands, doesn’t have the wing span, isn’t overly talented but beasted guys that were far superior by birth. Knight is the same way and probably my favorite guard of the Calipari era for that reason.
I won’t even dignify the nonsense about Hagans or Briscoe with a response. That’s just stupid.
I don’t think Reeves was a top 20 player due to his defense. It was legitimately awful and statistically one of the worst in the entire SEC. His overall efficiency was worse than Edwards’ because his defense dragged it down so much.
Offensively he was obviously another story and was incredible by his final year. But his defense really hurt him overall.
The only omission that jumps out at me, Jamal, is Malik Monk. But I agree. Reeves is Top 20.
Sh*t…..whoops. Thanks
Missed SGA and Bam too
Cal wasted more talent than I remembered lol.
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You just hate Cow. He can’t dunk, defend, hit layups, shoot 3’s, rebound, or play organized basketball for them!!!!
Briscoe and Hagans make bottom 20 before top any day of the week.
The fact that one of the guys you missed was first team All-NBA and could have won the NBA MVP….kinda says it all!
First Team All-SEC players under Cal
That's 21.
Those that made 2nd Team All-SEC not on the list above:
Patrick Patterson
DeMarcus Cousins
John Wall
Terrence Jones
Brandon Knight
Anthony Davis
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Nerlens Noel
Julius Randle
Willie Cauley-Stein
Karl-Anthony Towns
Tyler Ulis
Jamal Murray
De'Aaron Fox
Malik Monk
Kevin Knox
PJ Washington
Nick Richards
Immanuel Quickley
Oscar Tshiebwe
Antonio Reeves
That's 21.
Those that made 2nd Team All-SEC not on the list above:
Doron Lamb
James Young
Aaron Harrison
Devin Booker
Bam Adebayo
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Tyler Herro
Keldon Johnson
Tyrese Maxey
Sahvir Wheeler
Tyty Washington
Reed Sheppard
Full List of All-SEC UK Players
The list people have placed on here has quite a few players that are literally some of the best in the world at the things you mention. The coaches job is to take that talent and turn it into a cohesive team that wins. The criticism was never that our players didn’t have the raw talent
I have an opinion. But I'm too annoyed to share it. Took me 10 minutes to decipher who "Tone" is. ( I didn't watch the video, I don't want to wake the wife) If you're too lazy to type Antonio, then type Reeves. Tone is not a name...it's a sound.
It’s another reason why I say Reeves was so good. He doesn’t have half the talent of those players but produced, with terrible coaching, in talented ways. Reeves isn’t MKG he needs to be coached to defend. The coach protects the limitations of his players and Calipari was more concerned with recruits seeing NBA defense (which isn’t what Reeves needed) because it played into his selling point rather than helping a guy like Reeves defend better for the team on the court. I don’t hold Reeves’ lack of defensive prowess against him as much as I do Calipari. It’s clear Calipari was never a great defensive coach he just had talented defensive players. It’s guys like Reeves that show how horrendous Calipari is as a coach on both sides of the ball.
It's close but, his uk play was superior to several on this list. Pro play after they grow up, taints the viewpoint. Booker, Maxey et al.
But there is an outside shot that Stacey Reed Shepperd might be pissed about this ommission. Keep that head on a swivel brother.
Briscoe is still stepping on baselines somewhere and hagans is melting down right before a big game.
Coach Allante must have branched off from Cal's coaching tree. You know, the one that is absolutely trash. Cal recruited Reeves as a back-up, and that's how he played 'em until there were no other options. The same dude that refused to stop starting Sahvir Wheeler during the modern era, also didn't wanna start Reeves, one of the most efficient scorers we've ever seen at Kentucky. Cal is a clown. Repeat after me. Cal is a clown.
SO much talent!
For me, I’d have to put the following 2nd Team members in Cal’s Top 20:
Devin Booker
Bam Adebayo
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Tyler Herro
So which 5 would have to come off the 1st Team for my Top 20? 🤷♀️
You look at that incredible amount of talent and you would think Cal won 3 or 4 titles, at least. But no, just one.
We still had enough talent to win. It was all coaching why we lost. We didn’t have as many nba stars but we had enough college stars and some NBA talent that is all star level.
Terrence Jones is one of Cal's most underrated players in my opinion. He averaged 14 PPG over his 2 years and was a key part of that 2012 title. Most people talk about AD and MKG but TJ was just as important.
Agreed. Just say Reeves. The name everyone knows for him.
“Tone” just makes him sound like a dork trying to sound hip.
Briscoe was a PF stuck in a 6’2” frame.
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