What will be (and what should be) the reaction of our fan base if Z is not admitted here ?
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Serious question. What makes you think fans getting pissed could or should supercede the university's admission criteria?
Some of you are acting like this would be the first time in history that one school could not admit an athlete under its standard rules. If an athlete doesn't literally qualify, the school can go the extra mile by considering special circumstances. Apparently that is happening here. But this is not actually so uncommon. Many SEC schools have admitted athletics who could not get admitted to Vanderbilt. Many ACC schools have admitted athletes who could not get admitted to UVA. Under the standard admission criteria, not every out of state applicant can be admitted to Kentucky. Do we want any athlete from eastern Europe admitted to Kentucky because Cal wants him? Let's stop thinking like Cal.
Who screwed up here? Most coaches are wise enough not to publicize a commitment or formally offer a scholarship until he knows the athlete can be admitted to the school. But our coach thinks he iz running an independent semipro franchise.
Christ, point missed.Schools everywhere have treated athletes differently. If you don't know this i dont know where you've been. I'm not sure why you're trying to take the academic high and mighty road.
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And taking the high road with academics? People gripe at a fraud UNC on this board but you are okay with bending the rules for an athlete when clearly something is not within the guidelines in this situation?
Pick a lane.
Sandy Bell and her team are the best compliance team in America. The academic credentials of any player at UK over the years has nothing to do with this. When ANY UK sport start’s recruiting a foreign athlete that does not have English as his/her first language, that individual is told by compliance which test must be taken. The coaches know this too. The second they starting recruiting z they should have had him taking the one that was needed. This should never been an issue.
I agree but it is also very possible as well that Cal has worked here over a decade and should know red flags for the admin and had some talks about things before moving forward.
I say fans march on the admission office. Peaceful protest. Also on the Presidents office.
A huge percentage of the fan base will use this as a get out of jail free card for calipari.
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Point missed is right. UK and nearly every other university bend the rules for athletes. Get over yourself.
And if Duke or Michigan takes him, then what? Those schools have HIGHER admissions standards than Kentucky.
That will look awful for UK.
They should be more than ok if Bradshaw and Onyenso are both healthy, but it would be nice to have another in case.
LOL, they are not going to be "more than okay" if Z is not a part of things. There won't be any real depth under the basket worth a darn.
Bradshaw, Onyenso and Mitchell is a pretty damn good core. Mitchell played all alone in Canada. Imagine adding two seven footers? Four would be better, but let’s not act like there’s nothing down low.
A talent from far away and we cant find anything at home?
Im not worried about who we have as post player but we have to go to Croatia to find him?
Im more concerned about what our coach is thinking.
Im not worried about who we have as post player but we have to go to Croatia to find him?
Im more concerned about what our coach is thinking.
Bradshaw is fragile. Onyenso isn't going to much better than last year. Just watch. Mitchell will be the star of those three.
I am blaming Cal for this one. He signed this kid and told everyone he was good to go before even getting this kid cleared with admissions. That’s like writing a paper and not proof reading it before turning it in to your professor.
Cal knows the admission criteria for UK. He also knows what rules they can bend and which ones they can’t. At least he should know, since that information has direct ties to recruiting. But I think he does know, because he didn’t have these issues (with UK admissions) with Kanter, Murray, SGA, Skal, or any other foreign born player but now all of sudden Cal forgot how to get a kid admitted? Doubtful.
Cal knows the admission criteria for UK. He also knows what rules they can bend and which ones they can’t. At least he should know, since that information has direct ties to recruiting. But I think he does know, because he didn’t have these issues (with UK admissions) with Kanter, Murray, SGA, Skal, or any other foreign born player but now all of sudden Cal forgot how to get a kid admitted? Doubtful.
The only reasonable response is to burn the William T Young library to the ground.
Why if they let him in will they have to do it to someone else? Those rules were never followed by anyone else. He would not be the first athlete that had some slack cut for him. Won’t be the last.
Isn't the UK administration answerable to the governor's office? It might be time to bring politics into athletics...
If we’re depending on government to make a logical decision, we’re definitely screwed.
To be honest, I don’t really care about the big z. We never heard of this kid until we were told he was coming to UK. Then this board acted like we just became an elite team. not just FF bond but title game bond. No one really know jack about z. It would have probably taken 3 years to develop him and he’ll be gone after one ready or not. Him not being at UK mean one thing to me, and thats one less thing to b!tch about when we get tossed in the second round.
Not sure about Michigan, but Duke is out of scholarships. I saw on Twitter the other day that they have 13 players on scholarship.
You blame Cal because you want to. All coaches announce big commits when they get them. Smh
Those guys you list aren’t comparable because they played high school basketball in the US or were from English speaking countries. I think this is the first guy we have signed (ever?) that did not play high school basketball in the US and comes from a country where English isn’t their native language.
My guess would be because he speaks English so well, Cal never in a million years thought he would not pass this test that the university has.
Name ONE other time UK admissions has been an issue for a basketball recruit under Cal’s tenure.
Just one. Or shake your head at the teenage girl you stole that abbreviation from.
I just haven’t heard of the UK admissions department giving our basketball department a hard time before this. I do realize this player has a unique circumstance but even with the most comparable players they presented no issues.
This isn’t a case of the boy who cried wolf. The admissions department, as it relates to basketball, has never raised a fuss at all before. And I haven’t seen any argument, supported by facts, that says they have. So when they say there’s an issue with the kid getting into UK, I will take them on their word.
Cal on the other hand has lied to me, and the rest of the fanbase, more times than I care to count.
It’s ok though, I realize I’m in the minority here. But this is just how I see it.
Show me where I said that UK admissions has been an issue before. Sorry if an abbreviation is upsetting to you.
Yeah you definitely didn’t. Because they haven’t been an issue before with a recruit.
So you think they’re the problem because you want to, and not based on historical precedent.
Here’s the way I see it: Cal has dropped the ball recruiting several times. UK admissions never. So why on earth would I jump to the conclusion that admissions is the problem.
Talk how you want. I just think it’s silly for grown men using the language of girls in junior high.
Ok. Clarify your position for me then. Because at this point I’m not sure you said anything. You have made it very clear how young and hip you are thoughAgain, I never mentioned anything about UK admissions. SMH![[roll]](http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/img/emoticons/classic/roll.r191677.gif "roll [roll]")
Son, if you can’t comprehend what I wrote, I’m not going to waste my time trying to explain it to you. SMDH
Admissions lets players in all the time who normally would not be admitted into the university based on their grades, test scores, etc. bc they are deemed eligible by NCAA standards. I’ve not seen anything that says this kid isn’t eligible by NCAA standards. Imo, if he’s eligible to play by NCAA standards, he should be admitted into the university imo.
I’m not sure what’s going on. If he doesn’t get into UK and never plays college ball anywhere, I won’t have a huge issue with it. If he doesn’t get into UK and then gets into another university with more rigid admissions standards, I’ll have an issue with it.
Yeah I would have an issue with the latter. But since that hasn’t happened yet I’m not going to stress over it now. All I know is Cal has never had an issue with the admissions department before so I’m hesitant to put the blame on them now.
Let me get this straight. You’re happy I’m no longer banging your mother? You are special.
It helps if you learn them young. Kids are much better at learning languages than adults
I would have preferred a two parent household but you drove mom away. It’s more accurate to say she stopped banging you, but I know it’s important for your mental health to see it the way you do.
But to answer your question, yes, I am happy you and mom are no longer together. When you finally came out of the closet and said she was the reason, it broke her heart. She deserves better than you.
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LOL he's going in the draft next year, fact. Nice try.
You can either believe this or not, but his not even coming to the states yet (that I'm aware of) lends credence to Jones explanation.
I appreciate the link but my opinion on this topic isn’t born from ignorance of the opposing side’s viewpoint. I just don’t agree that UK admissions is the problem. They’ve never been a thorn in Cal’s side before so I don’t see why people think they just woke up one day and decided to try and screw Cal, our team, and the fans over by doing this.
If he didn’t pass the admission exam he can’t get in. I don’t see what’s so controversial about that. If the idea of admission exams and maintaining gpas and the entire concept of a student athlete is that polarizing for folks then I would point those folks towards watching professional sports.
But, if he does get admitted into another university with equal or higher standards for admission, and said university didn’t lower their standards just for him, then I will be upset with our admissions department. But since that hasn’t happened yet I’m not going to act or talk like it has.
And if it really is as simple as some are making it out to be then it should be pretty easy to give him another crack at the exam.
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