The longer this drags on the more I'm worried it's not going to happen. I pray I am wrong.
What will be (and what should be) the reaction of our fan base if Z is not admitted here ?
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We should be pissed. Don’t know what we can do about it other than yell on a msg board.
There will be nothing we can do but send angry fan letters.
Cal will be LIVID and it will damage what little good will did exist between the bball program and the university.
The media will roast UK (both local and I believe national) because some other school will snatch him up quickly.
We should be pissed. Again, unless he's a terrorist/criminal, there's no good reason to exclude him from admissions. I personally know at least one athlete that played at UK, and while I love the dude, he was not academically nor linguistically gifted. Yet he made it to UK on a full ride from athletics. UK taking a high road over one portion of an exam reeks of pettiness.
Cal will be LIVID and it will damage what little good will did exist between the bball program and the university.
The media will roast UK (both local and I believe national) because some other school will snatch him up quickly.
We should be pissed. Again, unless he's a terrorist/criminal, there's no good reason to exclude him from admissions. I personally know at least one athlete that played at UK, and while I love the dude, he was not academically nor linguistically gifted. Yet he made it to UK on a full ride from athletics. UK taking a high road over one portion of an exam reeks of pettiness.
Unfortunately cal has had many clusterf**ks when it comes to recruiting. Reporting that you have signed a recruit without fully knowing they are eligible especially foreign players, is not smart.
Yeah, as much I blame Cal, this ain't on him.
Really, you're going to use a mess created by the UK Admistration to give another blast at Cal? He's done a mess in recent years but this is not one we can blame stuff on him.
I'm simply saying, don't announce the signing until you know for sure that he has been cleared by the administration especially foreign players. It's not rocket science.
It's very possible that Cal and company were given an almost sure notice that he was good to go from the admin office (and based on prior experience didn't expect any issue). Then a very small detail crept in and some curmudgeon in UK's Administration is making a big stink about it (which is sadly VERY common in academic bureaucracy, really in any bureaucracy, you'd be surprised at the amount of Napoleon syndrome that runs rampant in them).
This is all on UK's Admin. No more, no less.
I think you guys are making many assumptions about Z's situation if yiu are blaming the administration at UK. He may not have the English, academics, or records required. Acceptance should not be automatic for athletes.
The guy speaks 6 languages, including English. I think he’s good.
I hope none of the Admissions Department folks have a roofing business on the side.
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This guy would have been / will be, the cherry on top of a very good roster. If he’s added to the roster…great! If not…we’ll still be very good. I don’t care, one way or the other!
How many of these goobers in admin can speak 4 languages?
If they ruin this people need to make these dorks pay.
If they ruin this people need to make these dorks pay.
I can personally attest to one athlete that got in because he was a great athlete. There have been several other stories all over this week of UK alumns that have been to class with several students that were less than competent than Z appears to be.
94% acceptance rate. That means if 100 people applied 94 would get in. Are we really going to believe that Z falls in that 5-6%?
UK has also said it doesn't care about the "legal status" of someone's residency in the US. So, that makes them look even worse in this situation because they can't say it's a residency issue.
So, the only thing that is boils down to it being could be grades (but by all accounts that doesn't seem to be an issue). He passed two different English equivalency exams, just neither was what UK "Likes". Now, that could be a very valid stance if one of the approved English Equivalency exams wasn't offered by freaking DuoLingo. Which is a language learning app, not some highly esteemed proficiency measurment institute.
The reason people are getting upset about this is that there's no seemingly viable reason to deny him entrance.
We need to be insanely livid. I'm willing to bet you have students attending classes everyday who speak no or very little English. The fact that this has dragged on this long is infuriating. It seams there is a power struggle somewhere and big Z is cought in the middle
I mean, if he can’t get in due to rules, then he can’t get in. Would rather follow the rules and NOT be a Kansas or UNC.
Hell, Scott Padgett and Walter McCarty were prop 48.
I agree with you. I knew several athletes at UK who weren't all that bright.
On top of that, do you know how hard it is and how smart you have to be to speak 4 languages fluently? That is a rhetorical question, but that should tell UK all they need to know about this kid.
We should all be furious if this kid doesn't come to UK due to this travesty in handling his admission. I will never look at the school with the same admiration I do today.
And we’ve been 1 player short of a good roster for a few years now.
I love languages (including coding languages). Learning 1 extra is hard. 3 extra is impressive for ANYONE. Sure, a lot of them (especially the Romance and Germanic languages) have similarities that transfer, but that's still 3 separate lexicons you have to know and have situational contexts.
Signings have always been announced when a kid actually signs in the past. Why would this one be any different? I don't follow your logic other than you just don't like Cal. I've ripped on him too but I don't see where he has done anything wrong in this case.
Big money boosters should tell the administration just how stupid they're being.
But is this rule too arbitrary? He's taken and passed an English proficiency course already, UK simply doesn't like that one.
Why not sit down with the kid and see first hand how proficient he is in English. No, they'll never do that because his ability isn't relevant, following the arbitrary rules is all that matters.
100% agree.
Also, But Duke is rumored to be ok to take him? If that happens everyone at UK as part of this decision should be terminated for cause of stupidity immediately.
I just don't get how that can happen but UK can't get it done. Duke is a way better school academically.
I was thinking about all of the other people we (not sure UK does) make concessions for who do not speak English very well or not at all but are allowed an education in this country's academic institutions.
I agree with you and I think that some of the rules UK has can be rigid, but if they do that for him, then they have to do that for everyone. As much as that is a negative, the positive is that our admissions office doesn’t skate the rules and won’t bend for anyone — again, we don’t want academic fraud.
We love UK, we are proud that we aren’t other institutions, and we should never bend or break our rules or we become those fraud institutions.
Does this suck, though? Terribly. I want to see this kid here and I want us to kick everyone’s @ss this year. Badly. We fans deserve that especially with the price tag coming with that coach.
He’s already cleared by the NCAA. So it should be fine.
We’ll Mitch has already been upped for more years on his contract just like Cal got an unnecessary pay day for years in end….so I’m going to say all you can do is care less and do something else with your free time….Ky doesn’t give a flip
If there is another foreign kid who has dyslexia and cannot pass a particular reading test, but speaks 4 languages including English, I hope that person gets into UK too.
This isn't a situation where the kid has a 1.5 GPA and is accredited from Donda Academy....he is said to have a disability. So UK appears (at least) to be dying on this hill...moronic decision.
Schools everywhere have treated athletes differently. If you don't know this i dont know where you've been. I'm not sure why you're trying to take the academic high and mighty road.
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This happens all the time. Most schools have different academic standards for athletes than anyone else.
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