It should be just a basketball discussion, but this board of often incapable of that without massive detours/personal shots on members with opposing views.
What is Hart's major flaw?
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He will be able to withstand the strength and size of grown men in the SEC in...3 years. I like him and if he stays around long enough he can be a consistent contributor.
We desperately need to add experienced, physically mature players to this roster in order to compete at a high level. The learning curve with this team is so steep and it will frequently be painful to watch.
We desperately need to add experienced, physically mature players to this roster in order to compete at a high level. The learning curve with this team is so steep and it will frequently be painful to watch.
Right . And I don’t understand why people get a kick out of being mean. It’s a sports board to share views and information.to have fun.
years ago about 2002 the Lexington Herald had a message board that was .much worse than this . I developed a friendship with one of the sane people on it and we met for lunch . He pointed out it was only for fun . To step away and ignore insults if you weren’t having fun.
and as for Joey Hart he is exactly the kind of four year player most of this board has been screaming we need . We get him and the first thing a poster does is insult him.
I would expect that in the eighth grade . But grown men ? Give me a break.
Hopefully he’s a good cheerleader then can transfer to Morehead State after next season.
He whipped up on teams full of crackers like he played in Pikeville. Teams with 6’3” centers nicknamed Critter. All his highlights.
But he’s probably better than his ranking.
But he’s probably better than his ranking.
At the end of the day, we need experienced players who can contribute immediately.
I disagree . Cal has the number one recruiting class and WILL play them. What we need are backups who are willing to bide their time and play as Juniors and seniors .
I don’t like the one and done system but until we have a new coach that’s what we are stuck with.. we have seen this year that practically No portal players you would want are willing to come play behind Cals pet freshmen who will play as much as their NBA chances dictate .
If any of us had a Son who is an upper class man in the portal we would strongly advise him to go where he can play if he’s the better option rather than sitting on the bench helping other players not as good at the time develop their game to play in the pros .
Kids want to be treated fair, to play ,and to be on a winning team.
When you concentrate on developing others potential for the NBA you don’t offer any of those things .
easy to see why Cal has been a complete failure at recruiting from the portal this year. The problem is he has all five spots taken. If it was only two or maybe three he could sell it .
but with all five spots taken there is no way any upper class men you would want will come here .
I don't think anyone is being critical, just wondering what is keeping him from analysts seeing him as a 4 or 5 star. If he's that good of a shooter, has good height, is springy and can dunk as well as we've seen, what exactly is the knock on him.
My guess is either he is a poor defender or his competition hasn't been that good. Either that or he had played some good competition and struggled against those teams/players. He looks quite capable otherwise.
Linton Indiana population 5000 with a tiny high School ranked at 2A the way Indiana ranks schools. Doesn't get much attention does it nor do it's players
The intent of the original @Jireh post was very plainly to compliment Joey Hart.
If your goal is really to conduct yourself such that people believe you "don’t understand why people get a kick out of being mean," then you might want to reconsider your approach.
Well he’s a bit naive.
I saw where he said one reason he came to UK was because of the “supportive fanbase”.
This fanbase has a large large group of supportive fans but also a vocal group of those who will eat their own. Hope Joey doesn’t read Rafters. Lots judging him without ever seeing him or giving time to let him develop.
Rupp Arena has a lot of jerseys hanging up there from guys with similar backgrounds. Not saying he’s that caliber but I look at those names and many came from little schools in Ky. Started slow and developed.
Just hope he Reed and Burks get equal chances.
“I chose UK because of Coach Calipari, the supportive fan base and Kentucky’s ability to develop players. I’m looking forward to having the opportunity to compete and play in the NCAA Tournament.”
I saw where he said one reason he came to UK was because of the “supportive fanbase”.
This fanbase has a large large group of supportive fans but also a vocal group of those who will eat their own. Hope Joey doesn’t read Rafters. Lots judging him without ever seeing him or giving time to let him develop.
Rupp Arena has a lot of jerseys hanging up there from guys with similar backgrounds. Not saying he’s that caliber but I look at those names and many came from little schools in Ky. Started slow and developed.
Just hope he Reed and Burks get equal chances.
“I chose UK because of Coach Calipari, the supportive fan base and Kentucky’s ability to develop players. I’m looking forward to having the opportunity to compete and play in the NCAA Tournament.”
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Sadly no. CJ was likely way more prepared to play at Kentucky than hart.
He had those stats against 2A high school opponents, so it’s hard to translate to SEC talent. Who knows?
It isn't the kid that worries me; it is his crazy coach who can't figure out how to use an elite offensive player who might not be great at defense.
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No telling because the usually will rank Indiana kids highly if they are legit. I have no idea.
I don’t think we will ever have a 4 year player again honestly, not the way college ball is now. I mean IU got TJD but that’s gotta be one of the last of his kind that good to stay.
Nothing but a practice body for cal unless he gets on the NBA’s radar somehow. Cal does not value fundamentals and basketball IQ. Will end up putting up solid numbers over his college career but will assuredly be somewhere different than UK (unless cal leaves after this year, then who knows).
He came at the perfect time now that we are starting the series again. I’d love to see him knock down 4-5 3’s in a win against them.
We ran the same stuff that got plenty others open. The difference was CJ didn't put in the same effort moving without the ball. He was super easy to guard whereas guys as recent as Grady were killers running off screens.
CJ seemed like a good guy. He was a spot up shooter that didn't translate to the sec. Hopefully this kid has a better go
Not being athletic to that guy means cow didn’t promise him and his posse minutes
That’s the problem with these type of players. CCC couldn’t figure out how to get Steph Curry looks.
I said his jump shot was nearly unguardable. Watch his shot. He elevates in his jump shot, he has a high, quick release. Plus he is 6-5. Maybe learn to read a little better and less attacking a post who post something that he knows what he is talking about. You, just like the idiot who said he is not athletic, don't know wtf you are talking about. I never said he was going to be a star or had Jordan athleticism. Take your negative uninformed opinions somewhere else, or learn the game and to read.
He looked to aggressively hunt his shot off screens in some of the videos I've seen, and made a bunch of contested shots too.
Went to Rupp for o e of the preseason games, they tried to run some stuff for CJ, he just couldn’t get any separation from defenders.
I never saw CJ pre injuries but this kid looks more athletic for sure. He looks more athletic than Reed and he’s 2 inches taller as well.
He looks more athletic than Herro was and has a better shot form. Herro had more developed body. Does he have the drive of Herro? Who knows? Guess we shall find out.
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I think I’m right but didn’t Herro grow quite a bit even during his first year of college?
This follows a question I have about rankings as a whole. Kid A: 33 ppg , 38% 3-point, 6 rebounds, 6 assists, ranking #39. Kid B: 17.3 ppg, 32% 3 point, 5 rebounds, 2.1 assists, ranking #7.
Reed had a previous connection to UK. Also, Hart committed to UCF early and it halted any momentum or buzz for him. I believe he received several votes for Indiana Mr. Basketball.
Hart played for a 2A high school and participated in the Under Armour league which isn't as big of stage as other kids.
In fairness, he would’ve gotten far more offers if he had committed early to UCF.
He had a really strong senior year. If he hadn’t already committed before the stock rise, his offer list would’ve been way more impressive.
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