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What I Never Understood About Taking Portal Transfers

El Gato Calvo

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So you take a guy who couldn’t get on the field at his old school and bring him in thinking he’ll be a top contributor here

I don’t get it
 
I wonder why academics never seems to be an issue when athletes transfer. At one time that was a big concern.

When was the last time any school declared an athlete academically ineligible?
 
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I wonder why academics never seems to be an issue when athletes transfer. At one time that was a big concern.

When was the last time any school declared an athlete academically ineligible?
Well, UK was trying to get Louisville transfer RB Peny Boone in school but admissions said no. That was just another reminder that UK doesn't care about football. What other SEC school (besides private school Vandy) would deny a big transfer? Answer: none.
 
Well, UK was trying to get Louisville transfer RB Peny Boone in school but admissions said no. That was just another reminder that UK doesn't care about football. What other SEC school (besides private school Vandy) would deny a big transfer? Answer: none.

That just isn't the case, if a transfer doesn't have the credit to be eligible, or enough transferable hours no one is taking them. Lots of those type kids are done once they hit the portal. In spite of what some may think, schools aren't going to risk their accreditation for some football or basketball player.
 
When was the last time any school declared an athlete academically ineligible?

Publicly?

Several years, I would assume, as privacy laws have tightened the last 20 years.

Every year, virtually every program “silently” loses players, often at a 20 percent clip. And these losses used to carry some controversy, as good students who did not measure up athletically were being shed. We don’t hear the bitchin’ and moaning from the press, as now almost all schools practice this.

Hell, the turnover at all schools is so large, a kid is lucky to get any mention, at all, of the circumstances.
 
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That just isn't the case, if a transfer doesn't have the credit to be eligible, or enough transferable hours no one is taking them. Lots of those type kids are done once they hit the portal. In spite of what some may think, schools aren't going to risk their accreditation for some football or basketball player.
Well I do know the staff really wanted him and admissions said no. I can’t imagine if Kirby really wanted a kid that admissions would say no.
 
Pretty simple concept.
Ohio State, Georgia and Fields. Baker Mayfield.
The quarterback of the number one team in America was pushed out the door of Oklahoma.
 
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Transfers like Levis, Wandale, and Davis worked pretty well. Bossman Fat, Dare too.
All those guys had played. I think where it gets really iffy is guys like Brock, Jantzen Dunn, Tanner Bowles, Ben Christman, etc who were 4* and absolute takes in HS but haven't played a lick in 2-3 seasons. Just hard to know what we're actually getting.
Although on the inverse, sometimes the FCS or G5 kids look good at their level though and just can't make the leap athletically. Portal eval isn't always cut and dry
 
I wonder why academics never seems to be an issue when athletes transfer. At one time that was a big concern.

When was the last time any school declared an athlete academically ineligible?

The NCAA showed they don't care about that when they refused to sanction UNC.

The athletes that took the bogus classes were certainly not in good standing once those classes were removed from their transcripts, or they were given an F. They were likely not even full time students during at least that semester in which they played and took the classes in question. Many of the high profile recruits only take 12 credit hours per semester. Drop one class and they weren't eligible.

That's why they stopped the investigation.
 
All those guys had played. I think where it gets really iffy is guys like Brock, Jantzen Dunn, Tanner Bowles, Ben Christman, etc who were 4* and absolute takes in HS but haven't played a lick in 2-3 seasons. Just hard to know what we're actually getting.
Although on the inverse, sometimes the FCS or G5 kids look good at their level though and just can't make the leap athletically. Portal eval isn't always cut and dry
Dunn has been hurt, Bowles is no longer with the team, Christman had knee surgery but is on XP/FG unit.

Using the portal makes sense, just have to have strong eval. Get an older, more experienced player who already has time on college S/C program. Overall I think UK's portal experience is a plus but yes, there's been misses. Doubt if it's anymore than others have endured.
 
Well I do know the staff really wanted him and admissions said no. I can’t imagine if Kirby really wanted a kid that admissions would say no.

Then you would be incorrect, after the last president and his good buddy Jim Harrick pulled their tricks UGA is not putting academics at risk for an athlete. Now if you are talking about X about of dollars to build something you would likely be correct. UF is another place with academic integrity. AU, not so much, they were put on probation and about to lose their accredation because of an independent study for football players, but was discovered by regular students and taken by practically every studen. There was no syllabus, no meetings, but a 100% grade of an A. The conference isn't out to get a member, what would be the reasoning
 
He’s stayed eligible in college and was admitted into UL and UCF but not at UK. Again, if this were basketball and Pope wanted him, there wouldn’t have been an issue.

Doubt it. Pope has way more integrity than a Stoops or calipari. He wouldn't bend the rules academically.
 
Yeah I think eventually we’re going to see things settle down. Last few years have been Wild West via all the changes and things every football forum and the sports world in general have exhaustively talked about. Extra year of eligibility due to Covid and portal rules loosening key among them.

What we’ve seen is just not sustainable and really .500 at best in terms of pay off with talent and performance/results. Maybe worse, we’ve regressed in the high turnover portal era of the past few years.

You should hit the portal for emergency need of depth and maybe a unicorn. Other than that, I think Dabo is right and more programs will trend back to recruiting and developing guys that fit their culture and systems.
 
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