What’s going on at Dayton
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I'm guessing Dayton has a VERY LIMITED NIL budget. These guys know they'll probably never play in the NBA.
Now is their chance to make $ playing basketball, and play on a platform that creates more future opportunities.
I'm not opposed to NIL. But, It'll devastate programs like Dayton.
Now is their chance to make $ playing basketball, and play on a platform that creates more future opportunities.
I'm not opposed to NIL. But, It'll devastate programs like Dayton.
As a team they were 3rd in the country at around 40%
I'll be there next weekend... I'll ask around.
Welcome to the new college basketball where teams like Dayton and Indiana St get raided now they have to raid others below them.
Survival of the fittest, the slowest zebra gets eaten, only the strong survive, and so it goes.
The only thing “going on” at Dayton is that they don’t have enough NIL money to keep up with the big money schools.
Pretty soon there will be 317x13 players in the portal each year or 4100 plus in the portal. There will be 30 or so teams that will keep some guys. They there will be free agency lottery to get each team. Sad.
Why even bother with recruiting out of high school. Assemble a roster in April one you know what you need and
get a good balanced team . Can’t really bring in 12 guys expecting to start though.
get a good balanced team . Can’t really bring in 12 guys expecting to start though.
The interesting thing that will happen with programs like this is that the young men that do go there will really appreciate being there and having the scholarship.
For instance, my son has low level D1 offers in soccer, and he’s elated with that! If more and more players avoid more and more programs because they can’t get paid, then there will be more opportunity for fringe D1 basketball players and the programs will be better for having them in many ways. And it’s not like Dayton was ever going to win a title regardless of the era.
Don’t forget, Dayton was going to be a #1 seed the year tourn got cancelled. (I think!)
I don’t think the Daytons of the world will have trouble bringing in same caliber of player they always have. Lots of players develop so much their first 1-3 years in college at any level.
Their problem is going to be holding on to their best seasoned players! P5 coaches realize a veteran college player brings more to a program than most freshmen. (There will usually be 8-10 freshmen that can immediately make a major contribution.) From a coach’s perspective, they have tape on guys in the portal and that tape is not against HS talent.
From a player’s perspective, competitors want to compete at the highest level …. PLUS make good money while doing it.
I agree 110% with you. Smaller schools will have to bring in more freshmen because they’re replacing graduates plus players who transferred up to bigger programs.
It is now about how much they can get paid for playing CBB. Very few care about the school they go too. If changes are not made with the NIL there are going to be a lot of smaller schools that will be hard to put players on the floor.
I think it's pretty simple: NIL payday. Brea is getting A LOT of attention, and probably having some bags thrown his way. Mid-major "stars" are honestly the guys most likely to get paid in the portal
Also going to see a lot of these smaller schools start having access to freshman they would’ve never landed before from a talent perspective.
As the bigger schools load up on proven and experienced players they’ll be less room for incomings. These guys will have to sign a notch below what they may have 5 years ago.
A friend went there in the 60s. Came to Louisville during the Don May Final Four. They had the immortal Glinder Torraine against Lew Alcindor.
As somebody stated earlier, these schools will start having access to high school kids they didn't have access to before. When schools take more transfers than freshmen, the number of freshman recruits to the higher level schools will open the doors to these schools for them, but then those kids that pan out will just transfer up in a year or two. Schools like Dayton will become feeder schools.
Mid majors like Dayton will never be able to sustain long term success now. As soon as they land good players they will be off to the highest bidder after one season.
Shame what College sports have became. It's even worse though in football. Basketball teams like Dayton can land 2-3 good players and have success for a year in their conference.
Shame what College sports have became. It's even worse though in football. Basketball teams like Dayton can land 2-3 good players and have success for a year in their conference.
A coaching change ? We lost 6 guys who was committed from high school and couple / few that was not freshman transferred and / or followed their previous coach who recruited them. But a coaching change was the direct effect of all of them, except maybe Bradshaw, Burks and Hart, they may have still transferred even if Cal was still here.
Continuity, roster development, upside.
After this season the Covid year sunsets so the age differential will dial back at least somewhat too so talent will weigh at least a bit heavier.
This is why I opposed the unlimited transfer idea years ago and now. It's going to decimate mid major and smaller programs.
Sounds exactly like capitalism, which is the system we all favor correct? Think of Dayton as the mom and pop grocery store and UK as Walmart.
Well yeah, we have had an almost new roster every year. Now it's everybody
He was talking about the OFF season. We do not normally lose 5 incoming recruits BEFORE they arrive, we lose after a year, not before the year. HUGE difference. Even signing more portal guys, with the talent we had coming in, we wouldn't not have had to be so hectic in the portal and could have been a lot more selective. We could have really use Fland, JQ, a couple others at least and the best part is, they would not have had to play 25-30 minutes a game, they could progress at a normal freshman pace. I am glad we will not have to depend on 6 freshman every year, but also do not want to try and fill a roster with ALL portal guys every year either. MY opinion, I truly think Karter Knox will be very good, most on here are not that high on him, I am. I love his game and how it has transformed to a more three level scorer. His shooting is getting better every day, he is no longer JUST a attack the rim player.
the problem with you analogy is Walmart doesn't need mom and pop,
College athletics needs to field teams that are competitive.
It’s worse than the NBA, because the NBA has structure and clearly understood rules that everyone respects and follows. College basketball does not, it’s now basically free for all anarchy.
College basketball is now essentially what the NBA would be If it did not have a salary cap, draft, fixed term contracts and everybody was a free agent for sale every year.
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