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I’m NOT DOUBTING BREA…..Just a ???

I'll die on the Kellen Grady hill, that he was cooking before he had foot troubles and had UK in the driver's seat to get a Final4.. but once he and Ty got banged up, you could see our team was totally changed. You just can't lose your top two shooting guards/wings and not have your team come to a screeching halt, especially with an undersized PG.

So I'll gladly take a healthy Grady IMO. Some of those wins in the middle of the year was the best UK looked over the last 4 or 5 years (aside from maybe a few games this year?).


Also in the tournament game suffered from Calipari syndrome. Up 4 in overtime Cal took the air out of the ball and slowed it down, causing an over reliance on Wheeler who was a weak decision maker. Lost lots of game with stall ball at the end. I do agree though, injuries completely derailed what could’ve been a special season.
 
With Brea, Kentucky would have six players who averaged between 9 and 14 points a game in conference play —not counting any contribution from Perry or Chandler. Thats more players averaging 9-points plus already than the offensive juggernaut, defensive sieve of last year. And the roster is still taking shape.


I know you were a pretty big Cal fan, haven’t seen you post since he left (not saying you haven’t I just haven’t seen it). What are your thoughts on everything? Honest question not bashing at all just curious what your take is?
 
I know you were a pretty big Cal fan, haven’t seen you post since he left (not saying you haven’t I just haven’t seen it). What are your thoughts on everything? Honest question not bashing at all just curious what your take is?
I consider myself a Kentucky fan —since my dad took me to see Rupp’s Runts when I was a young boy and I cheered for Riley and Dampier and the rest. I backed Cal as long as I figured he was the most likely option to win games at Kentucky. That’s because changing coaches is always a crap shoot and I figured the chance Cal would regain his mojo was greater than a new coach stepping in and succeeding quickly. See Tubby after the first year when Pitino’s players left and BCG —not to mention a place like Indiana over the past 35 years.

But the new reality is that Pope is Kentucky’s coach and I very much want him to succeed. I’ve been impressed so far with his energy. As I noted in my post on this thread, I’m pleasantly surprised with his initial efforts to build a roster—it looks like an experienced, tough and balanced team. I’m cautiously optimistic that the Cats will be competitive next year.

As for Cal, no regrets that he’s gone. I recognized his flaws even as I defended him as Kentucky’s coach —because as I noted it seemed more likely to produce a good outcome than the alternative. Now that he’s gone, good riddance. My loyalty was never to him - always to the Cats.
 
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Go away and F off.
You F-off,
Everyone needs to lay off the expectations. The fans do it every year, and there is no way Pope, or the kids he's going to bring in late, can live up to it this year.
Give him a year, maybe two, and will be back as good as ever.
 
He played against some of the best teams last year and hit 100 3's out of 200 attempts. Watch the videos on him, he is mobile sort of like Reeves and would be good at UK. Same for Jaxson out of BYU. We get both of those and we have some serious bucket getters. Need 1 PG and maybe 1 true power guy if we get those 2.
why didn't he shoot more? If he is hitting 1/2 of them, I'd expect him to fire at least 10-12 a game.
 
why didn't he shoot more? If he is hitting 1/2 of them, I'd expect him to fire at least 10-12 a game.
No one's out here checking 10-12 threes a game lol. Maybe every now and then but not every game.

6 att per from 3 is pretty dang high volume. He shot 57 more threes than reed for example. His whole team shot a pretty good clip from 3 so Brea wasn't having to shoot all of them. But he shot a lot of threes very much so
 
He did not even start for Dayton. Think of Reed, but he took more threes than Reed. Just not the same type of player as Reed.
He didn't have the players around him that Reed did. If I'm Dayton and have a guy shooting 50% or better from three, he's shooting a bunch, unless he sucks in other aspects of the game. I know nothing about this kid. That is why I asked the question. Was he a bad defensive player, etc? It was a legitimate question of why he wasn't scoring more with that accuracy. I wasn't criticizing, just asking.
 
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I am asking the question to all of you, my BIG BLUE brothers & sisters, are we expecting too much from Brea if we were fortunate enough to land him? The young fella averaged 11.8pts a game at Dayton. Say he averaged that same 11.8 for us next year, I personally dont see that as enough from our starting 2 guard? What do you all think? Again, I LOVE the guys game and IM NOT BASHING HIM. Just curious if he can be as impactful as we hope he may be?
I think 12 a game would be perfect from him here.
 
Brea is a 6'6 player who has shot 23 FT's combined in 2 years...hard pass, unless he changes his game from a YMCA 3P specialist to someone who can be efficient w/ the ball and keep the D honest.

Collin Chandler will be a better all around 2G than Brea.
 
He didn't have the players around him that Reed did. If I'm Dayton and have a guy shooting 50% or better from three, he's shooting a bunch, unless he sucks in other aspects of the game. I know nothing about this kid. That is why I asked the question. Was he a bad defensive player, etc? It was a legitimate question of why he wasn't scoring more with that accuracy. I wasn't criticizing, just asking.
I do not know a ton about him either. I just watched some film on him. Started some games and not others. He is a microwave type scorer if need be. His defense is not like Butler (whos is) or even Oweh. His offense is really good, Reeves type (not as good) but same mold. He can hit the 3 catch and shoot, fake one dribble shoot and such, he can fake and hit spot up 2, did not see tons of floaters but he does drive it when it is open.

I did not think you were criticizing or anything like that. My answer was short and to the point due to also working at the same time. We had tons of service calls all of a sudden and had to take care of issues.
 
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I am asking the question to all of you, my BIG BLUE brothers & sisters, are we expecting too much from Brea if we were fortunate enough to land him? The young fella averaged 11.8pts a game at Dayton. Say he averaged that same 11.8 for us next year, I personally dont see that as enough from our starting 2 guard? What do you all think? Again, I LOVE the guys game and IM NOT BASHING HIM. Just curious if he can be as impactful as we hope he may be?
Did you happen to see the performance by Jack Gohlke vs the Cats in the tournament this year? If you did, then you know how valuable a consistent knock-down shooter can be.
 
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Brea is a 6'6 player who has shot 23 FT's combined in 2 years...hard pass, unless he changes his game from a YMCA 3P specialist to someone who can be efficient w/ the ball and keep the D honest.

Collin Chandler will be a better all around 2G than Brea.
I will take a guy who shoots 11 FGs a game and makes half of them. I don't see how it gets more efficient than hitting half of your shots, with 4/11 being 3-point attempts. That means the defense has to always be aware of where the guy is who has potential to score every other time down the floor, on a normal night. Imagine a night where he's hitting 50+% of his shots. I'd say that will keep the defense honest.

A good SG doesn't necessarily have to be able to create shots with the ball in his hand. SGs can also be creative in their off-ball movement to create shots for themselves which lead to efficient scoring opportunities.

Hopefully Brea comes and he and Chandler work together to build off their respective strengths at the two spot.
 
They didn't have much scoring period, he's 187–108 (.634) in 9 yrs coaching w/ 2 NCAA tourney appearances and no victories.
Danny Hurley was 167-122 in his first 9 years with 2 NCAA tourney appearances and 2 victories. Then he got to a good program and we see what he has now been able to do.

Sometimes it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.
 
I do not know a ton about him either. I just watched some film on him. Started some games and not others. He is a microwave type scorer if need be. His defense is not like Butler (whos is) or even Oweh. His offense is really good, Reeves type (not as good) but same mold. He can hit the 3 catch and shoot, fake one dribble shoot and such, he can fake and hit spot up 2, did not see tons of floaters but he does drive it when it is open.

I did not think you were criticizing or anything like that. My answer was short and to the point due to also working at the same time. We had tons of service calls all of a sudden and had to take care of issues.
Based on metrics, his scoring numbers per 100 possessions are actually better than Reeves over both their careers and based on 2023-24 numbers.

Reeves ORtg: 112.8 --- 129.2 in 2023-24

Brea: ORtg: 116.1 --- 134.5 in 2023-24
 
He didn't have the players around him that Reed did. If I'm Dayton and have a guy shooting 50% or better from three, he's shooting a bunch, unless he sucks in other aspects of the game. I know nothing about this kid. That is why I asked the question. Was he a bad defensive player, etc? It was a legitimate question of why he wasn't scoring more with that accuracy. I wasn't criticizing, just asking.

Well, it isn't really true that he didn't have players around him that Reed had when it pertains to 3pt shooting, though.

Dayton had 2 guys that shot about as well as Reed, Dillingham and Reeves, and they had 2 more guys that shot better than UK's 4th best 3pt shooter, Edwards.

So, I am not saying Dayton was head and shoulders better than UK, but my point is Dayton had enough solid 3pt shooters that Brea wasn't needed to shoot 10 threes a game.
 
Let's not get too excited, this will be a process. It won't be year one. Brea didn't start and shot well against St. Louis and other Atlantic 10 foes.
Neither did Reed, Rob or Jaxson Robinson and I think most fans would be excited with any of those guys but then again I am unsure you are a fan of UK.
 
why didn't he shoot more? If he is hitting 1/2 of them, I'd expect him to fire at least 10-12 a game.
Because they had Daron Holmes. The offense ran thru him. Brea was NOT the #1 option on offense. Holmes was #1 and #2. He dominated the ball. Kid is a NBA talent and will be very good in the league.
 
He will likely play at least 10 in the rotation. He coaches like Rick and Rick always had a 10 man rotation. The 10th guy didn't always play more than 6 minutes or so. But he always had 10 in the rotation.
He had 10 guys averaging double digit minutes on last years rosters. and an 11th who average 9.5 minutes. only three guys played all 34 games and 3 more played all 33. I'm not sure what the injury situations were of anyone who didn't play in all games. but based on games and minutes played he definitely used a 10 man rotation for the most part.
 
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