We're the better program

[bigblueinsanity]

And it really isn't close. It took some fluke trick nonsense and playground miracles to even get as close as they did.

White is incredible just destroys Napier. Coen is great and will keep getting offensive talent. Better staff and better players. It showed.

Never thought I'd say this but it's true. It isn't even because they're bad. We just have an amazing staff and the gap will widen as long as we can keep them together

 

[know1]

For the last several years, we definitely have been.

 

[K_TIME]

Ky has truly grown talent under stoop’s for sure but Florida with Napier….geez what a dumb move to fire a Mullen to only go for a riskier bet in sunbelt Billy. That dude is overmatched in sec

 

[Porky Pigskin33]

Ky has truly grown talent under stoop’s for sure but Florida with Napier….geez what a dumb move to fire a Mullen to only go for a riskier bet in sunbelt Billy. That dude is overmatched in sec

So true. Between 2018 and 2020 Mullen was 29-9 at Florida. He led UF to the SEC Championship game in 2020 and also led the Gators to victories in the Peach Bowl and Orange Bowl. He has one bad season in 2021 and UF fires him. Personally, I think Mullen could coach circles around Napier.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

For the last several years, we definitely have been.

This.

I'd still take Florida's 3 national titles and overall history.

 

[ktbug]

My older brother and I almost got in a fight in 2009 over UF dominating us. We would never have believed 3 in a row was possible. 4 of 6. Would you have believed this possible if you were my age?
Thanks Stoops!

 

[JHB4UK]

But they have a Gamechanging Coordinator! And 2 O line coaches!

Of course they don't have a Special Teams Coordinator. to keep guys from doing dumb things, like trying to leap over top the protective punt shield, which is a penalty, giving the offense the ball back. Where they run it in from 75 yds for a td.

 

[Ky grandpa]

I had always hoped UK could and would pass UF and a few more in the SEC... I want it all I want to play for the title a few years in a row... We now have the coaching staff to get it done, just need a few more top player's...

GBB

 

[Smashcat]

Interesting factoid.🙂

 

[vhcat70]

This.

I'd still take Florida's 3 national titles and overall history.

Then become a Gator. I'm UK thru & blue, history be damned.

 

[PhattyJ4UK]

Now solidify it by not giving away a yearly should win game like miss st/sc/Missouri

 

[HerrosHeroes]

But they have a Gamechanging Coordinator! And 2 O line coaches!

Of course they don't have a Special Teams Coordinator. to keep guys from doing dumb things, like trying to leap over top the protective punt shield, which is a penalty, giving the offense the ball back. Where they run it in from 75 yds for a td.

Longest UK run for TD ever v the Gators.

Kentucky-Florida Postgame Notes

ukathletics.com

 

[UKWildcats1987]

Then become a Gator. I'm UK thru & blue, history be damned.

Sorry but history counts to overall program success. I agreed with the other poster for the last few seasons we are the better program.

 

[maroon79]

No. No No.


Florida is the dominant program in the SEC now. They just need to fine tune and they will be ok

Always remember that

Florida is great the rest of the SEC is garbage

 

[maroon79]

Ok, how good was Florida BEFORE UK decided not to support football under Cliff H?

Without looking what was the UK/Fla win loss record before 30 yrs of futility?

You will be shocked

 

[cathouse]

Ok, how good was Florida BEFORE UK decided not to support football under Cliff H?

Without looking what was the UK/Fla win loss record before 30 yrs of futility?

You will be shocked

Florida was the Vanderbilt of SEC before Spurrier.....

 

[backinky2018]

So true. Between 2018 and 2020 Mullen was 29-9 at Florida. He led UF to the SEC Championship game in 2020 and also led the Gators to victories in the Peach Bowl and Orange Bowl. He has one bad season in 2021 and UF fires him. Personally, I think Mullen could coach circles around Napier.

Mullen is definitely a better coach than Napier. The knock on him was that he was a lazy recruiter, but the guy generally won games, so it's a bit puzzling. Florida churns through coaches looking for the next spurrier or urban.

 

[Blouman]

Ok, how good was Florida BEFORE UK decided not to support football under Cliff H?

Without looking what was the UK/Fla win loss record before 30 yrs of futility?

You will be shocked

It was pretty even. Florida had a slight edge overall. What changed everything
was we hired Curry and they hired Spurrier. Florida became a perennial top
ten program.

 

[maroon79]

I am not 100, but it was something like 15-17 so yeah I remember It was almost - push


I’m too lazy to look it up

One of you guys that always had to be right can look it up for me

 

[southindycat]

This.

I'd still take Florida's 3 national titles and overall history.

Well, we don't have it, and no one is going to give it to us. It must be taken, and games like yesterday and this next are the road to taking it. Half the problem at UF and similarly troubled programs is probably looking back instead of forward. Eventually, history and tradition only mean so much. Look at Nebraska, USC, UCLA, Syracuse, or Miami-FL. Hell, look at the years Bama spent in the Wilderness between Stallings and Saban, and might again. Program history and tradition are oversold or too narrowly defined all the time. Say what you want of the scarcity of titles and overall record, I still think UK football has its own history of relatively incredible fan support and hard won successes and special memories, and I see these becoming more noteworthy to outsiders.

 

[southindycat]

Mullen is definitely a better coach than Napier. The knock on him was that he was a lazy recruiter, but the guy generally won games, so it's a bit puzzling. Florida churns through coaches looking for the next spurrier or urban.

Let'em, right?

 

[Deeeefense]

Ky has truly grown talent under stoop’s for sure but Florida with Napier….geez what a dumb move to fire a Mullen to only go for a riskier bet in sunbelt Billy. That dude is overmatched in sec

I will always believe that the game here where Florida had 8 shots to the endzone to win the game and Kentucky kept them out for the win, was the death nail in the coffin for Mullen at Florida. Florida fans mostly still do not recognize Kentucky as being a legit football program and losing to us is the cardinal sin there.
As an aside, we beat LSU that same year which helped push Orgeron out the door as well under similar circumstances.

 

[The Snoke]

Then become a Gator. I'm UK thru & blue, history be

This.

I'd still take Florida's 3 national titles and overall history.

Dumb. Go suck on an Orange.

 

[RunninRichie]

Florida was the Vanderbilt of SEC before Spurrier.....

Florida's whole program is a fluke. They hired Spurrier who took advantage of the florida population boom in the 70s and 80s. And basically just recruited the best talent in the country from FL and ran backyard football plays. Most overrated coach there ever was. And Florida is an overrated program too.

 

[maroon79]

What are the Florida fans saying now

 

[bluecoon1]

What are the Florida fans saying now

That Stoops is a dirty coach because we tackle too hard.

 

[Porky Pigskin33]

Florida's whole program is a fluke. They hired Spurrier who took advantage of the florida population boom in the 70s and 80s. And basically just recruited the best talent in the country from FL and ran backyard football plays. Most overrated coach there ever was. And Florida is an overrated program too.

Let's not forget their strange history with coaches.

1984: Charley Pell fired for cheating.
1989: Galen Hall fired for cheating.
2004: Ron Zook fired after 2.5 seasons.
2014: Will Muschamp fired after four seasons.
2017: Jim McElwain fired after 2.5 seasons.
2021: Dan Mullen fired after four seasons.

I think it's a foregone conclusion that Napier will eventually be fired.

 

[kyjeff1]

So true. Between 2018 and 2020 Mullen was 29-9 at Florida. He led UF to the SEC Championship game in 2020 and also led the Gators to victories in the Peach Bowl and Orange Bowl. He has one bad season in 2021 and UF fires him. Personally, I think Mullen could coach circles around Napier.

I wonder if there was something going on behind the scenes. Firing him was an odd move.

 

[JHB4UK]

Mullen wasn't an elite recruiter. the bigwigs at Florida thought the talent gap with Georgia was becoming unsustainable for them to ever compete.

so they hired Napier, all on the premise he would have the knowledge on how to build an organization that would recruit at a top 5 or better level. Support staff, quality control analyst, recruiting hosts, the works.

Year & a half in....yeesh. not competent in the days that matter, the 12 reg season football games. He won't be fired, even at 5-7. They will make a big show about hiring an outside offensive coordinator. In the Spring the O guys will say how exciting the new system is. Attacking! Big plays! Napier will talk about it being better him managing the whole team as CEO. Then reality, 2024 Florida has 1 of the most difficult schedules, of any CFB team ever. With a new QB, probably a true freshman.

I like Kentucky's chances at 4 in a row

 

[K_TIME]

Mullen wasn't an elite recruiter. the bigwigs at Florida thought the talent gap with Georgia was becoming unsustainable for them to ever compete.

so they hired Napier, all on the premise he would have the knowledge on how to build an organization that would recruit at a top 5 or better level. Support staff, quality control analyst, recruiting hosts, the works.

Year & a half in....yeesh. not competent in the days that matter, the 12 reg season football games. He won't be fired, even at 5-7. They will make a big show about hiring an outside offensive coordinator. In the Spring the O guys will say how exciting the new system is. Attacking! Big plays! Napier will talk about it being better him managing the whole team as CEO. Then reality, 2024 Florida has 1 of the most difficult schedules, of any CFB team ever. With a new QB, probably a true freshman.

I like Kentucky's chances at 4 in a row

You may be right Florida hangs on to Napier out of pure “don’t have the money “.

But Etienne mertz and pearsall…is all the y have as weapons..which ain’t much. Two of those guys are seniors. That Oline is not very good snd the defense isn’t amazing either

They need a coach and sunbelt Billy ain’t it

 

[maroon79]

Mullen wasn't an elite recruiter. the bigwigs at Florida thought the talent gap with Georgia was becoming unsustainable for them to ever compete.

so they hired Napier, all on the premise he would have the knowledge on how to build an organization that would recruit at a top 5 or better level. Support staff, quality control analyst, recruiting hosts, the works.

Year & a half in....yeesh. not competent in the days that matter, the 12 reg season football games. He won't be fired, even at 5-7. They will make a big show about hiring an outside offensive coordinator. In the Spring the O guys will say how exciting the new system is. Attacking! Big plays! Napier will talk about it being better him managing the whole team as CEO. Then reality, 2024 Florida has 1 of the most difficult schedules, of any CFB team ever. With a new QB, probably a true freshman.

I like Kentucky's chances at 4 in a row

That would def chap their rear ends

 

[bigblueinsanity]

He definitely isn't going to last. Hopefully they keep making panic hires

 

[cathouse]

He definitely isn't going to last. Hopefully they keep making panic hires

They've got Deon on speed dial......

 

[Porky Pigskin33]

You may be right Florida hangs on to Napier out of pure “don’t have the money “.

But Etienne mertz and pearsall…is all the y have as weapons..which ain’t much. Two of those guys are seniors. That Oline is not very good snd the defense isn’t amazing either

They need a coach and sunbelt Billy ain’t it

UF is in a tough spot. They NEED Napier to work out or else they continue their recent tradition of playing musical chairs with coaches. That's a terrible cycle to get caught up in and is certainly no way to build a championship-caliber program.

On the other hand, keeping an incompetent coach around for an extended amount of time can equally be a program destroyer. UF fans have to be frustrated over all this. It makes me appreciate Mark Stoops even more.

 

[JHB4UK]

More than the money, Florida's problem is the AD Stricklin. Former UK/Barnhart associate! Stricklin hired Mullin, and hired Napier. Would you let this guy hire a 3rd CFB coach after 2 failures!?!? Whk keeps their job with such poor results?

We will know Napier is soon gone when his AD is fired.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

They've got Deon on speed dial......

I'm sure. I think deion wants fsu if not the nfl. He was very shrewd in choosing Colorado. Fsu fits mostly the same mold.

 

[southindycat]

Let's not forget their strange history with coaches.

1984: Charley Pell fired for cheating.
1989: Galen Hall fired for cheating.
2004: Ron Zook fired after 2.5 seasons.
2014: Will Muschamp fired after four seasons.
2017: Jim McElwain fired after 2.5 seasons.
2021: Dan Mullen fired after four seasons.

I think it's a foregone conclusion that Napier will eventually be fired.

Sooner, rather than later... gater.

 

[backinky2018]

Florida's whole program is a fluke. They hired Spurrier who took advantage of the florida population boom in the 70s and 80s. And basically just recruited the best talent in the country from FL and ran backyard football plays. Most overrated coach there ever was. And Florida is an overrated program too.

Sorry, I disagree with almost all of this. Spurrier revolutionized the SEC. It was a big 10 style of play league until he came along and he proceeded to dominate it for a decade.

I do agree that UF was a nothing program before he came along, but he awakened a sleeping giant. Florida is a powerhouse, always will be.

 

[cathouse]

Sorry, I disagree with almost all of this. Spurrier revolutionized the SEC. It was a big 10 style of play league until he came along and he proceeded to dominate it for a decade.

I do agree that UF was a nothing program before he came along, but he awakened a sleeping giant. Florida is a powerhouse, always will be.

Florida HAS BEEN a great program under Spurrier and Myers.

They are only great today in the minds of their own fans and a lot of media hacks that know nothing about football....

 

[The Snoke]

He definitely isn't going to last. Hopefully they keep making panic hires

Yes, they woefully sound like our next door neighbor, just South. How many hires before you learn before you quit passing out McDonald’s bags. It took NIL to stop that.