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We can win the next 6 and be 17-3 headed into KU

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So don't panic too much. We aren't going to lose every road game and the ones coming up are some of our 'easier' ones....excluding KU of course.

Having said that, don't get hopes up too much if we do get to 17-3. I think we still finish 23-8 if we do get to 17-3 and get a 6-7 seed or so unless we win the SEC-T.

Just win at Alabama Saturday and then I think 17-3 is a real possibility.
 
So don't panic too much. We aren't going to lose every road game and the ones coming up are some of our 'easier' ones....excluding KU of course.

Having said that, don't get hopes up too much if we do get to 17-3. I think we still finish 23-8 if we do get to 17-3 and get a 6-7 seed or so unless we win the SEC-T.

Just win at Alabama Saturday and then I think 17-3 is a real possibility.



It's funny. People knew UK was going to lose some games this year. Now they are surprised we have lost some games. This. Is. NOT. the 2014-15 season.
 
Before the season I thought we'd go 23-8 regular season, 25-9 after SECT and 28-10 after the NCAAT.

Elite 8 loss but a fun run with a tragically flawed and unbalanced team.

I'll stick by that and look forward to next season.
 
If these kids don't come to play, they could lose the next three road games. Hopefully, they learned something from the LSU game.
 
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If they come out again really flat, like they have in every road game so far, Bama will win. Their style of play and given the fact that they're at home will give them a big advantage. The Cats must come ready to play this one or it will end up being another loss.
 
It's funny. People knew UK was going to lose some games this year. Now they are surprised we have lost some games. This. Is. NOT. the 2014-15 season.


What worries me is not the losses as much as how we have played in those losses. Sleepwalking through halves is not encouraging.
 
If these kids don't come to play, they could lose the next three road games. Hopefully, they learned something from the LSU game.
Well they certainly didn't learn from their first two losses because they brought the same pathetic effort that they had in their first two losses.
 
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What worries me is not the losses as much as how we have played in those losses. Sleepwalking through halves is not encouraging.
Exactly, that is what I've been saying. The loss is not a huge deal, it's the total lack of effort and really dumb mistakes on top of bad free throw shooting that has everyone scratching their head.
Any team that loses at home to this UK team right now is not even an NIT team.
 
Armchairpg has it correct.

There are always every year some apologists for the team. Fine, we get it; we love Cal, we love the team, we love Kentucky basketball. To some that means you can't say anything other than blind comments like we knew LSU could be a loss and that this team would lose some games. That is true. But, as armchair points out, it isn't losing, but how we play. Really, you can defend our play in that game? Right now we have national commentators talking about Kentucky being "soft", having some real issues, etc. We do.

When I watched the game I felt that LSU especially in the first half kept on handing us back the game if we wanted. LSU looked pretty bad. So, if they looked bad yet kicked our asses, that should tell you how bad we were.

My concern now is that Cal is "talking" to the bigs, and telling them this was on them. Great, what does that accomplish? Skal now is going to be completely different basketball player?

I will be very disappointed to not see some more line-up changes. I think the players were trying, so telling them try harder seems way too simplistic.
 
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They already have once this season. You really need to learn to count.
This team beat a better than average U of L team in Rupp....a better than average team in Duke in Chicago....lost to an average team on the road in UCLA...lost to an average OSU team in New York lost to a better than average team in LSU in Baton Rouge....The LSU loss or UCLA loss did not surprise me...OSU did....the way we played at LSU worried me as much as anything.
 
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This team beat a better than average U of L team in Rupp....a better than average team in Duke in Chicago....lost to an average team on the road in UCLA...lost to an average OSU team in New York lost to a better than average team in LSU in Baton Rouge....The LSU loss or UCLA loss did not surprise me...OSU did....the way we played at LSU worried me as much as anything.

I'm struggling to see your point. I appreciate you recounting our big wins and losses, but I am 100% aware of them.
 
I'm struggling to see your point. I appreciate you recounting our big wins and losses, but I am 100% aware of them. My post was simply in response to a dumb post in the thread by a poster who cannot count.
Just trying to point out this team in reality has lost to 3-5 to the better competition and has really struggled outside of Rupp. I do not think they can win 6 games in a row in the SEC unless a miracle happens...I hope I am wrong but I think they will have to play out of their minds to be Bama saturday...
 
They already have once this season. You really need to learn to count.

We may win 6 in a row but our OOC schedule had a few really overmatched teams. I know we played Duke and Arizona State (and beat them) but several others were walkovers. Hope we win every game but 6 in a row at this point of the season will be difficult.
 
I expected us to win at LSU but the loss certainly didn't surprise me. It's exactly the kind of loss we should have expected. It's the first road conference game. LSU has some talent and were expected to be a top 25 team this year. When we go to their arena and play, they're going to be thinking "Kentucky is our chance to show what we can do." And they bust their tails like they haven't all year.

Still disappointing but if they lost to Ohio state on a neutral court, I'm not sure why we couldn't see this coming. But it also doesn't mean this team can't improve and go far. Lesser teams than this have won championships.
 
UK has taken some very good basketball teams to bama and left with a loss. This will be the weakest team we have taken there since Goodwin-Noel's team which was just three years ago but they also lost.

I am interested in just seeing how this season plays out. Cal takes some criticism on this board from time to time for his coaching inefficiencies (me, most definitely included). I want to see what he does with this group. Will he make necessary changes to the lineup and schemes we are running or is he simply going to just tell the bigs to play harder and keep doing the same thing game after game and just hope it all starts to click.
 
UK has taken some very good basketball teams to bama and left with a loss. This will be the weakest team we have taken there since Goodwin-Noel's team which was just three years ago but they also lost.

I am interested in just seeing how this season plays out. Cal takes some criticism on this board from time to time for his coaching inefficiencies (me, most definitely included). I want to see what he does with this group. Will he make necessary changes to the lineup and schemes we are running or is he simply going to just tell the bigs to play harder and keep doing the same thing game after game and just hope it all starts to click.
The Alabama game is key to my statement of saying we can win the next 6.....obviously because its the first one, but also because it may be the toughest one and will show us if this team can pick itself up after the low point of the season. Losing on the road by 18 to an 8-5 team (no matter how talented they may be) is definitely the low point of the season so far.

I don't think at Auburn will be as much a test as at Bama and Arkansas. Vandy at home will also be a big test in this 6 game stretch leading up to the trip to Lawrence. They are a talented team that has under performed and are desperate for a good resume building win.
 
Yes, yes people I get your in depth logic with your responses to my post which was simply a "We have won 6+ already, DUH!" type post. Thanks for the in depth analysis though, but really was not a point to be argued...FACT: UK has already won 6+ this season, and I don't care who it was against.
 
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The next six games SHOULD be wins. UK has double the amount of talent any team on that list has and then some. Just b/c they laid a stinker in baton rouge doesn't mean this team doesn't have a roster of guys that can absolutely lay it on a team. At best UK can be clicking on all cylinders and beat any team in the country. Grab a couple wins in a row and it can change the whole dynamic and mentality of the team. Confidence goes a long ways against pesky middle range teams. I looked at mama's roster and it's far from threatening. Make some outside shots early, loosen up the middle and they should win comfortably.
 
So don't panic too much. We aren't going to lose every road game and the ones coming up are some of our 'easier' ones....excluding KU of course.

Having said that, don't get hopes up too much if we do get to 17-3. I think we still finish 23-8 if we do get to 17-3 and get a 6-7 seed or so unless we win the SEC-T.

Just win at Alabama Saturday and then I think 17-3 is a real possibility.
Pipe dream.
 
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Yes, yes people I get your in depth logic with your responses to my post which was simply a "We have won 6+ already, DUH!" type post. Thanks for the in depth analysis though, but really was not a point to be argued...FACT: UK has already won 6+ this season, and I don't care who it was against.
Those first seven were against six mid majors and one good team. Also I reported your personal attacks on me in other post.
 
To me it's not that we lost to LSU, Ohio St and UCLA but rather HOW we lost. All three of those games were pretty much over at the half. We mounted comebacks against LSU and OSU but really those games were decided rather early

Its not as if we are losing close games like we did in 2011. That's alarming
 
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Avery Johnson will devise a good gameplan. It will be tough from here on out until we learn how to play against a packed in defense that plays physical. The blueprint is out on how to approach beating the CATS.
Lets hope guys identify their roles on this team and are up for a challenge. If they figure this thing out it could be extremely gratifying. However, if they continue to go through the motions and dont improve its gonna be a long conference schedule. |
 
We won't win six in a row. Don't care if we've already done it. Just don't see it happening.
LMAO . We will do it 2 more times this season . The next 6, then we will win 5 in a row then lose at A&M then win 8 in a row and win the SECT and who knows about the NCAA T . But I would never bet against a man whose average is the final 4. People over react as this team looks better at this point then either the 2014 or the 2011 teams did . Lord did the the 2014 team look horrible til March. I mean putrid . WE lost at freaking USC and USC was like a 10 win team. IN 2011 we looked great always at home and never looked like a top 25 team on the road ever. People gloss over the past to make the present look worse but this team will at the very worst be an elite 8 team IMO even if the bigs never develop , which I think they will as the tourney is all about the guards and we have the best sg in the land in Murray and a top 3 pg in Ulis .
 
LMAO . We will do it 2 more times this season . The next 6, then we will win 5 in a row then lose at A&M then win 8 in a row and win the SECT and who knows about the NCAA T . But I would never bet against a man whose average is the final 4. People over react as this team looks better at this point then either the 2014 or the 2011 teams did . Lord did the the 2014 team look horrible til March. I mean putrid . WE lost at freaking USC and USC was like a 10 win team. IN 2011 we looked great always at home and never looked like a top 25 team on the road ever. People gloss over the past to make the present look worse but this team will at the very worst be an elite 8 team IMO even if the bigs never develop , which I think they will as the tourney is all about the guards and we have the best sg in the land in Murray and a top 3 pg in Ulis .

I don't know if we are better than 2011 tho. At least at this point. That team lost eight games by these margins, 1 in OT, 2, 2 2,2, 4, 7, and 17. Outside of the blowout in the beginning of the season to Uconn, they were in every game. These three losses, we really weren't even these games. In 2014 outside of the Florida games, they played close games as well. We already have two double digit losses.

This certainly doesn't mean they won't get it together. I agree with you. I'd never bet against Cal. He's taken a 4 seed and an 8 seed to the title games. But right now I actually think we are way behind. Losing away to UCLA and LSU is one thing but how we lost is concerning.

I think the biggest concern is I'm not sure this is correctable. Will Briscoe magically learn to shoot? Will Skal give us anything?

Cal's teams always improve as the season goes on but I wondering exactly what the ceiling is for this team
 
I could get a good look at a t-bone by sticking my head up a bulls ass but I think I'd rather take the butchers word on it.

I'm worried about Alabama, I don't even want to think about kansas. Perry Ellis was on that team when ole Roy ran the score up on us. I'm dreading the thought of what mental state this team will be in when that time comes. Somehow Bragg will have 30/15 while diallo will have 25/12/10, even though neither player average 3 points a game or 15 mins. Self is doing a great job of making sure they stick around for Atleast 3 years
 
I'm basing my level of concern on Saturday's game. If we struggle again on the road, I will be concerned. If we play better, I think we will be alright.
 
We are, where I thought we would be, before the season started. After the roster was finalized, and I seen who the front court players left were, I lowered my expectations. Especially after I watched Skal play at North Laurel last year. The front court starters are all back ups. Hopefully we hold serve at home and split road games, although I believe we lose two home games and finish the season with ten to twelve losses including tournament games.
 
This certainly doesn't mean they won't get it together. I agree with you. I'd never bet against Cal. He's taken a 4 seed and an 8 seed to the title games. But right now I actually think we are way behind. Losing away to UCLA and LSU is one thing but how we lost is concerning.

I think the biggest concern is I'm not sure this is correctable. Will Briscoe magically learn to shoot? Will Skal give us anything?

This is spot on.

We haven't just lost. We've lost big.

To compound that, we have only looked great in 3 games so far this season. This suggests that those poor performances can't be categorized as mere flukes.

Briscoe must learn to shoot or else he ought to be doomed to the "energy" role off the bench. Unless he is Nerlens or Rodman on defense, he's a net negative due to his offensive ineptitude. Playing him starters' minutes is like poisoning your own drink.

Skal has 5 rebounds and 7 fouls in 30 MP against SEC competition. Not good. Out of those 5 rebounds, 4 of those are offensive rebounds which is a small shiny rock in a dense, sticky mud puddle.
 
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