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Watching UGA, I see why they would want Dane

Georgia has won some crazy close games. When it matters they dig in and win. That is the trait of a champion.
They are champions man. That program is so enviable. Tough and hard nosed. I don’t like all the tickets and off field stuff but on field they are crazy amazing.
 
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Do we think Texas drops below 5?

I assume the notre domers may move up to 5th after Penn state (probably) loses. I assume texas at 6th at lowest.

5 seed is huge because you get Arizona state and then Boise state in quarters. 6 seed you get maybe alabama. Big difference.
 
I can’t believe that wasn’t ruled targeting. I’ve seen way easier hits not called this year.
Gotta be honest and say I didn't think it was targeting. The guy hit him with his shoulder. QB's facemask hit the tackler's pads.

If anything the Texas player might have caught the worst of hit by getting hit in the ear hole. That shit hurts.
 
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Do we think Texas drops below 5?

I assume the notre domers may move up to 5th after Penn state (probably) loses. I assume texas at 6th at lowest.

5 seed is huge because you get Arizona state and then Boise state in quarters. 6 seed you get maybe alabama. Big difference.
Nah Texas will be fine I think.
 
Gotta be honest and say I didn't think it was targeting. The guy hit him with his shoulder. QB's facemask hit the tackler's pads.

If anything the Texas player might have caught the worst of hit by getting hit in the ear hole. That shit hurts.
This is correct. It was a big hit, but the QB was a runner on that play and lowered his head. Anything other than hitting him with the crown of the helmet isn’t targeting in that situation, and the hit pretty clearly led with the shoulder.
 
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Thanks, at least those whorns don't own the conference first year. Don't know if we can win another game, Beck's arm doest look good, but Stockron is a fighter and tough and team responded to him.
Congrats, Grumpy … Gutsy win !!
You guys need to run a reverse hand-off on those toss sweeps, with QB under center.
Stockton/Beck toss to Etienne with outside reverse hand-off to #11 ….
 
Congrats, Grumpy … Gutsy win !!
You guys need to run a reverse hand-off on those toss sweeps, with QB under center.
Stockton/Beck toss to Etienne with outside reverse hand-off to #11 ….

Thanks man, wasn't a dominating win by any stretch, but it's hard to beat a team 2 times in one season. But the team knows how to win tight games. Not sure we have enough offense to make a run, but got a chance. For the record I am not a Bobo fan and less than that of our OL coach.
 
That is targeting
Hell yes it was targeting, the retired ref in the booth always is splitting hairs saying sh— like it’s got to be with the crown though. The man has dementia and needs to be sidelined. The defender hit him high with his helmet making contact first. If you are trying to protect players, that has to be targeting. For those saying the runner lowered his shoulder, most of the time the runner does and it’s most always called targeting on the defender.
 
Hell yes it was targeting, the retired ref in the booth always is splitting hairs saying sh— like it’s got to be with the crown though. The man has dementia and needs to be sidelined. The defender hit him high with his helmet making contact first. If you are trying to protect players, that has to be targeting. For those saying the runner lowered his shoulder, most of the time the runner does and it’s most always called targeting on the defender.

According to the rules as I understand them, I didn't think it was. Wasn't the crown of his helme and QB was not a defenseless player. It was a hard hit,involving the helmets, but not targeting according to the rules. I am surprised he held on to the ball.
 
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'The NCAA’s targeting rule prohibits players from initiating forcible contact against an opponent that “goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball.”

If a player leads with the crown of his helmet, it’s targeting whether or not the player is defenseless.

When targeting is in question, it’s ruled a foul. However, there still needs to be at least one indicator of targeting, and instant replays must confirm the targeting call because there is no “stands” option.

OK, so then what are the indicators of targeting in college football?

For a targeting penalty, there needs to be an (ONLY ONE) indicator of targeting, as opposed to uninitiated contact or when contact was unavoidable.

Although these are not all the indicators of targeting, here are four key ones defined by the NCAA rulebook:

• Launch — a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area

• A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground

• Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area

• Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet


(Photo on this page is the same situation, but different game.)

Oct 8, 2022; Stillwater, Oklahoma, USA; Texas Tech Red Raiders quarterback Behren Morton (2) is taken down by Oklahoma State Cowboys safety Kendal Daniels (5) in the fourth quarter at Boone Pickens Stadium. Daniels was ejected for targeting. Mandatory Credit: Nathan J Fish/The Oklahoman – USA TODAY NETWORK'


It's targeting whether anyone believes it is or not.
 
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That may be how the rule is written, but it not called that way except on a QB in the pocket a passer and considered a defenseless player. I don't know if defenseless player is written in the rulebook, but the term is used ever explanation during reviews. One a QB pulls the ball down and starts to run, he loses that protection and is no longer defenseless unless he slides. Stockton was not going to slide, he was trying to score, had his head down and was not defenseless, no targeting because it didn't meet those criteria.

The link you should had the QB already down, clearly a penalty and not the same circumstances.
 
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It’s amazing that we lost to Georgia 13-12 !!
Just shows that when they actually tried they were competitive but something happened and they fell apart. Who know but we are a mess. I don’t blame the defense because they did their job a lot of the time and got no help. They were physically and mentally worn out by the end of the year.
 
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That may be how the rule is written, but it not called that way except on a QB in the pocket a passer and considered a defenseless player. I don't know if defenseless player is written in the rulebook, but the term is used ever explanation during reviews. One a QB pulls the ball down and starts to run, he loses that protection and is no longer defenseless unless he slides. Stockton was not going to slide, he was trying to score, had his head down and was not defenseless, no targeting because it didn't meet those criteria.

The link you should had the QB already down, clearly a penalty and not the same circumstances.
It certainly felt like targeting the way he lowered his helmet but if that is the rule then I can see why it was called that way.
 
According to the rules as I understand them, I didn't think it was. Wasn't the crown of his helme and QB was not a defenseless player. It was a hard hit,involving the helmets, but not targeting according to the rules. I am surprised he held on to the ball.
I was too, when I watched the replay I was like damn how did he hold onto that?
 
Thanks man, wasn't a dominating win by any stretch, but it's hard to beat a team 2 times in one season. But the team knows how to win tight games. Not sure we have enough offense to make a run, but got a chance. For the record I am not a Bobo fan and less than that of our OL coach.
Hopefully Beck is able to go. The backup played pretty well overall but Beck gives them a chance as long as the receivers catch a ball.
 
I was too, when I watched the replay I was like damn how did he hold onto that?

When I first saw the helmet I thought it was the ball. It was a shot for sure, both guy putting it on the line for their teams. I cant say I wasn't hoping targeting stood, but when they showed replay I said that it would be overruled.
 
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When I first saw the helmet I thought it was the ball. It was a shot for sure, both guy putting it on the line for their teams. I cant say I wasn't hoping targeting stood, but when they showed replay I said that it would be overruled.
I guarantee had that been a regular game especially with a team like Kentucky on defense it would have stood all day long. I’ve seen us get targeting calls for things not even close to that. That’s the benefit of being one of the big boys in a huge game though the rule you posted makes sense why it was over turned.
 
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Ah man that sucks. I wouldn’t count them or Kirby out. I think you are right but I could see him running the ball to some wins.

I think out punter may be too, but we have a backup just don't use them much. I guess the next few weeks Gunner going to be getting lots of reps. But on the bright side he is more than a willing runner and is tough. His backup is a true frosh or the transfer from ASU.
 
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I think out punter may be too, but we have a backup just don't use them much. I guess the next few weeks Gunner going to be getting lots of reps. But on the bright side he is more than a willing runner and is tough. His backup is a true frosh or the transfer from ASU.
He is getting the best game time for the future too.
 
I guarantee had that been a regular game especially with a team like Kentucky on defense it would have stood all day long. I’ve seen us get targeting calls for things not even close to that. That’s the benefit of being one of the big boys in a huge game though the rule you posted makes sense why it was over turned.

The rules just seem so vague. But with the way the announcers and the TV official explain what they look for i didn't see contact with crown and Stockton was looking to give a lick to get to endzone and it didn't work for him. But on the TD, got to see so.e I with a fullback leading into the line. Double the linement blast the LB, back has to beat the S on Goalline, I understand that kind of football.
 
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