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Wagner was Starting the Day He Signed

There is no way Cal takes Wagner out if he had a stretch like Rob just had .

Yet he takes Rob out
Not sure why people don't get this. Dillingham was taken out so he could get a breather. That was three minutes of non stop up and down the court with huge shot after huge shot. He was gassed.
 
I mean, I have basically thought the same thing about a few here. Not sure if they're blind or trolls.

Trolls, but some are weird.

I agree things haven't been ideal lately but Calipari appears to be embracing change on multiple levels. The stats show it.

How about Adou?...freaking incredible.

Love this team...win or lose. We have at minimum, one guy coming soon...God help others if we have three 7 footers.

A real fan wouldn't start this thread. DJ is the leader of this team...if you ever played ball you can see it.
 
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Not sure why people don't get this. Dillingham was taken out so he could get a breather. That was three minutes of non stop up and down the court with huge shot after huge shot. He was gassed.
Rob is young I think he could handle that . I didn’t see a guy that looked gassed. Maybe I’m wrong but I didn’t see what you’re seeing .
 
Trolls, but some are weird.

I agree things haven't been ideal lately but Calipari appears to be embracing change on multiple levels. The stats show it.

How about Adou?...freaking incredible.

Love this team...win or lose. We have at minimum, one guy coming soon...God help others if we have three 7 footers.

A real fan wouldn't start this thread. DJ is the leader of this team...if you ever played ball you can see it.
Yeah what I saw made me excited for this season.Just need one of the bigs back for rebounding.
 
Rob picked up his second foul with 2 minutes left .

The run I’m referring to happened 5 minutes before that .
Oh. Then that was to rest him so he can continue to shoot well for the whole game. He came back in a short time later. We need him in the second half
 
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This thread. This thread right here is a perfect example of basketball bennies at their best.

Dillingham is going to be a great player for us. But as much as he sparked us(with good shooting not necessarily great basketball) in the first half. He absolutely hurt us terribly in the worst possible time with bad basketball and really bad defense.

Sheppard did as well.
They’ll both learn from it and get better but a lot of you see nothing but cAn hE Hit A ThrEe
 
DJ is a terrible 3 point shooter thus far but he has the credentials to be a star. Just have to let the season play out and see if he lives up to the hype.
 
But never earned it.

Dilly has done this every game and I’m sure he’s done it in practice. Best scorer on the team and it’s not even close. He’s the best future pro on the squad as well.
I hate to say it, but Wagner will be the downfall of this team. We look fast and scary with Dillingham out there. We look controlled and smart with Shepherd. We look bogged down with Wagner. It's clear as day.
 
I hate to say it, but Wagner will be the downfall of this team. We look fast and scary with Dillingham out there. We look controlled and smart with Shepherd. We look bogged down with Wagner. It's clear as day.
If I can stomach watching it again, I’m going to see how many possessions there were in which Wagner shot the ball without passing it once. Off the top of my head there were at least four. And I’m not talking about transition - I’m talking about half court sets.
 
If I can stomach watching it again, I’m going to see how many possessions there were in which Wagner shot the ball without passing it once. Off the top of my head there were at least four. And I’m not talking about transition - I’m talking about half court sets.
It’s alarming to me how unathletic Wagner appears after watching all of Canada and the season so far. Definitely not a 1st round level athlete. And even more troubling his elite skill finish at the rim has completely deserted him at the college level.
 
Not sure why people don't get this. Dillingham was taken out so he could get a breather. That was three minutes of non stop up and down the court with huge shot after huge shot. He was gassed.
Then call a timeout so he can get a blow.
 
It’s alarming to me how unathletic Wagner appears after watching all of Canada and the season so far. Definitely not a 1st round level athlete. And even more troubling his elite skill finish at the rim has completely deserted him at the college level.
Yeah he missed crucial shots at the rim. As others have pointed out, he will play well enough against all the cupcakes that he remains Cal’s lead guard. But him soaking up all of those minutes is going to be detrimental to the teams growth. Those developmental minutes would be better served going to Reed Shepherd and Rob Dillingham.
 
DJ is a terrible 3 point shooter thus far but he has the credentials to be a star. Just have to let the season play out and see if he lives up to the hype.
I hope Cal doesn't say the same thing. You play the guys who are hot or give you the best chance to win. On a personal level you hope guys live up to their hype, but on a coaching level hype shouldn't meany anything or be a measuring stick. He can't keep giving guys lots of minutes hoping the bulb comes on. Let them figure it out with a minute here or there.
 
If I can stomach watching it again, I’m going to see how many possessions there were in which Wagner shot the ball without passing it once. Off the top of my head there were at least four. And I’m not talking about transition - I’m talking about half court sets.
At one point I think he was pouting. Something told me he could be a problem going forward if he's not getting the minutes he wants.
 
This thread. This thread right here is a perfect example of basketball bennies at their best.

Dillingham is going to be a great player for us. But as much as he sparked us(with good shooting not necessarily great basketball) in the first half. He absolutely hurt us terribly in the worst possible time with bad basketball and really bad defense.

Sheppard did as well.
They’ll both learn from it and get better but a lot of you see nothing but cAn hE Hit A ThrEe
I do feel like it’s worth noting that Cal absolutely had his guys sagging off Harris and going under ball screens for Harris. The commentators pointed out Rob’s defensive lapses, but the Cats were leaving him open and daring him to shoot the whole game. It was THE GAMEPLAN.
 
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I hate to say it, but Wagner will be the downfall of this team. We look fast and scary with Dillingham out there. We look controlled and smart with Shepherd. We look bogged down with Wagner. It's clear as day.
Wagner is just not a good shooter, a lot of people made excuses for him in AAU and high school but it’s pretty clear it’s not gonna change during his one year in college. Dillingham and Reed are better than him right now clearly. There is no doubt this will be the downfall of the team because Cal will continue to play him big minutes, as people have said in many other threads Cal is not gonna change at the end of the day.
 
Wagner is just not a good shooter, a lot of people made excuses for him in AAU and high school but it’s pretty clear it’s not gonna change during his one year in college. Dillingham and Reed are better than him right now clearly. There is no doubt this will be the downfall of the team because Cal will continue to play him big minutes, as people have said in many other threads Cal is not gonna change at the end of the day.
Another season of enduring Cal’s failures at such a basic level, while being called Bennies for talking about what is plain as day.
 
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Another season of enduring Cal’s failures at such a basic level, while being called Bennies for talking about what is plain as day.
What’s really tricky about Dillingham, Reed and Wagner vs. the Wall/Bledsoe situation is playing time is extremely tight with Reeves needing big minutes and playing Edwards at the 3. There is no doubt this will be a Cindy theme for the season.
 
Wagner was Cal’s starting PG from birth. And it’s hurting both DJ and the team, unfortunately.
Agree 100%. Vastly over rated especially as a shooter. Wagner shooting 11% from three while Reed is at 55% and Dilly 44%. Overall Wagner shooting 30% while Dilly and Reed are both above 50%. Edwards is also struggling from 3 shooting only 18%.
 
What’s really tricky about Dillingham, Reed and Wagner vs. the Wall/Bledsoe situation is playing time is extremely tight with Reeves needing big minutes and playing Edwards at the 3. There is no doubt this will be a Cindy theme for the season.
This - paired with Reeves going 3-17 in another big game (see K-State NCAAT loss) - is why some were going to be ok if Reeves bolted.
 
This - paired with Reeves going 3-17 in another big game (see K-State NCAAT loss) - is why some were going to be ok if Reeves bolted.

I was okay with it. If you give those minutes up tonight to Shep Dilly, and Thiero - things might’ve gone differently.

Reed went 4/5. Dilly 6/12. Thiero 5/10. Wonder what happens if those guys collectively get 25 more shot attempts?
 
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I was okay with it. If you give those minutes up tonight to Shep Dilly, and Thiero - things might’ve gone differently.

Reed went 4/5. Dilly 6/12. Thiero 5/10. Wonder what happens if those guys collectively get 25 more shot attempts?
Reeves trying to get his, and prove that he can get drafted. The dude didn't want to come back to UK, never put out a statement or anything saying he was glad to be back. UK put one out when there was grumbling that he wasn't actually back on campus, I believe.
 
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That’s a bad choice for whipping boy. This will make you look stupid in a few weeks.
4 points across 30 minutes. His man scored at will on him. Again. Not a point guard at this level. Not a point guard at the next. Doesn’t make the guys around him better. Has fallen on every mock draft since you made this comment 🤣
 
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4 points across 30 minutes. His man scored at will on him. Again. Not a point guard at this level. Not a point guard at the next. Doesn’t make the guys around him better. Has fallen on every mock draft since you made this comment 🤣
He’s won player of the week 3 times. He’s the best player on our team.
 
He’s won player of the week 3 times. He’s the best player on our team.
Don't waste your time arguing with these people. Most are complete morons. A few are trolls. Almost none are actual fans, by the strict definition. They are all convinced that Cal has to go, and will be replaced by absolutely any coach of our choosing. Never mind the fact that no coach worth having will follow a mistreated HOF coach who was fired while coaching a top 10 team. They are delusional children. Following their plan get you a Billy Gillispie. Their hate for Cal flows into everything that happens, especially lineups. Facts and stats mean nothing to them. Every time a player messes up it's because he did it the way Cal taught him to. Bad shooting nights are impossible, therefore Cal messed with their technique and caused it. I could go on and on, and have before. Nothing will matter. They are morons pretty much wraps it all up.
 
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4 points across 30 minutes. His man scored at will on him. Again. Not a point guard at this level. Not a point guard at the next. Doesn’t make the guys around him better. Has fallen on every mock draft since you made this comment 🤣
At least he is aggressive and shows energy and effort. Can't say that about the majority of the team's performance...

Sheppard looks scared to be out there half the time. Constantly passes up wide open shots, or in Tuesday's case, misses a wide open layup off a perfectly executed play call. Can't guard anyone to save his life and is constantly lost on defense.

Dillingham has had just as many head scratching performances. He is the definition of inconsistent. Hasn't DJ won player of the week multiple times as well?

Who do you want to take his place in the lineup?
 
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