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Wagner and Edwards trending up

I thought 22 and 6 was an ok night.

Some of you are going to criticize the kid no matter what.

You guys have told me since the Kansas game, we can't give him credit for a good game vs bad teams. But we can sure criticize him for a good game. LOL
You are right. He played a very good all around game tonight yet some "UK fans" on here still complain about him. Makes no sense that they seem to be hoping the kid fails. Edwards played better tonight but has much room to improve yet. Hope they both really begin to turn it on soon and we could be very tough, especially add in maybe a couple of our bigs to the equation.
 
You are right. He played a very good all around game tonight yet some "UK fans" on here still complain about him. Makes no sense that they seem to be hoping the kid fails. Edwards played better tonight but has much room to improve yet. Hope they both really begin to turn it on soon and we could be very tough, especially add in maybe a couple of our bigs to the equation.
Yup.
 
There are some folks on here that see Wagner as an impediment to Reed Travis becoming a Superstar here and they will chip at him NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES. Thtts just the plain truth although they will never admit it. A shame because we need them both playing well to get where we want to get
 
Dillingham. However, DJ had 6 assists tonight. Tied for most on the team I believe.

This is getting really old. DJ looks a little better tonight and that has really pissed some people off.
I don’t think anyone’s pissed at DJ playing better, I think it has more to do with cal pulling Shepard and keeping DJ in and shep out in crunch time. Shep has been the overall better player by far at this stage but cal will be cal. No issues at all on my end with DJ being in but shep also has to be in as well. That was just idiotic coaching on Cals part the last 4:00 of regulation but idiotic coaching is really what he does best.
 
FTs almost did us in. I'll bet Cal has them shooting plenty in practices this week.
You serious? Not tryin b a smartass or anything but that's one those things Cal doesn't work on. Anything to do with shooting he has a dismissive attitude towards which I don't understand since you know he decided to be a basketball coach. He says that's for players to work on during their time. That's my biggest problem with the man as a coach. Mention shooting and he'll bring up defense. He won alot of games doing it his way but it could be so much easier on him if he'd get knockdown shooters and keep 1-2 around every year and then ppl may not have to go into work without fingernails 4-5 times a month from nervous chewing 😂.
 
There are some folks on here that see Wagner as an impediment to Reed Travis becoming a Superstar here and they will chip at him NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES. Thtts just the plain truth although they will never admit it. A shame because we need them both playing well to get where we want to get
I don’t care about who becomes a superstar. What I do know is that Wagner playing 36 minutes vs. 26 for Shepherd and Dilly isn’t justified. I’d argue that we would be unbeaten and wouldn’t have gone to OT tonight if the minute distribution were different. I don’t care who becomes a superstar - that’s Cal’s obsession. I care about UK winning championships - or at least having the opportunity to do so.
 
Good to see them play better. Wish Wagner had of passed the ball to a wide open Reeves on the last play in regulation. Hopefully their confidence stays up.
Yeah, that's one of the things that irked me. Dilly was open too. Crap happens. He's got a decent amount of assists already this year, so I"m chalking that one up to trying to do too much. Heck, Cal may have even told him to drive it (wouldn't shock me at all tbh.)
 
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Yeah, that's one of the things that irked me. Dilly was open too. Crap happens. He's got a decent amount of assists already this year, so I"m chalking that one up to trying to do too much. Heck, Cal may have even told him to drive it (wouldn't shock me at all tbh.)
Cal did say post game that Wagner missed that pass to Reeves. I saw Cal look mad at Wagner when he didn't make that pass.
 
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Good. Shows Cal actually might be changing a bit.
Perhaps but a lesser player would have received a hook instead of an angry look. Shep missed two defensive assignments and got sat during crunch time as a result, Wagner the same but remained in the game throughout. I have no issue with DJ staying in, just the preferential treatment given over someone who has clearly out performed him to this point. Check out the below and see who deserves the longer leash.

Shep Stat Wagner
117 Minutes 145
53 Points 59
27 Shot ATTS 64
12 Reb 12
15 Assists 16
17 Steals 8
6 Blocks 3


Pretty clear cut who the most efficient player is above through 5 games. Yet getting pushed at home only one of the players above was in the game the last 5 minutes of regulation.
 
If Mitchell doesn’t hit those big threes in OT, and Edwards follow up his blocked layup with a dunk, do you still think DJ played a good game?
DJ had 36 minutes to Reed’s 26. Earned not given, right. Didn’t make sense to me. Reed did have 5 steals, but wasn’t looking to score for some reason.
 
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What do Mitchell's 3's have to do with DJ's game being good or not?

22 and 6 is a pretty good game regardless of Mitchell's shooting. That's a really ridiculous way to try to dismiss his performance.

Are you saying DJ is bad because other guys also made plays? Damn. He has to do everything to earn your respect?
We lose a game; that some, maybe alot can percieve as Wagner to have played 'Hero ball'
He certainly is not shying away from the spotlight.
 
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I don’t think anyone’s pissed at DJ playing better, I think it has more to do with cal pulling Shepard and keeping DJ in and shep out in crunch time. Shep has been the overall better player by far at this stage but cal will be cal. No issues at all on my end with DJ being in but shep also has to be in as well. That was just idiotic coaching on Cals part the last 4:00 of regulation but idiotic coaching is really what he does best.
This sums up my thoughts also. I hope DJ gets better- and last night was a positive step. I struggle thinking he deserves 10 more minutes (last night) based on actual results so far
 
DJ getting blamed no matter what on here is getting old.

It's like the Cal-bois will defend DJ no matter what. On the other side, the pure Cal-haters will claim he hates Reed. The rest of us are caught in the middle catching crap when we say either one did well.

It's only 5 games in and already it's frustrating.
 
Can you play Hero Ball and also be tied for most assists in the game?
Good question. If your getting the minutes to do so i It seems possible. When theres more efficient options. But im not down on Wagner at all. Just would like to seem him begin to finish at the bucket again.
 
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Does your point guard look to facilitate and pass first or attack to get his own more often? Id guess its about half and half with Wagner at best; and with a conventional point guard their responsibility has been to get everyone envolved. He may be better suited a 2guard. Regardless he's a baller that benifits the team. Gotta figure the best efficiency lineup and style.
 
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Perhaps but a lesser player would have received a hook instead of an angry look. Shep missed two defensive assignments and got sat during crunch time as a result, Wagner the same but remained in the game throughout. I have no issue with DJ staying in, just the preferential treatment given over someone who has clearly out performed him to this point. Check out the below and see who deserves the longer leash.

Shep Stat Wagner
117 Minutes 145
53 Points 59
27 Shot ATTS 64
12 Reb 12
15 Assists 16
17 Steals 8
6 Blocks 3


Pretty clear cut who the most efficient player is above through 5 games. Yet getting pushed at home only one of the players above was in the game the last 5 minutes of regulation.
Geez. Abundantly and alarmingly clear.

Wagner’s inefficient hero ball is painful to watch.
 
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DJ is a great player. He doesn’t force anything. He never gets rattled. He plays defense.

He’s going to lead this team.

Those layups he’s missing now will start to fall.

He’s got so much poise as a freshman it’s hard to imagine how good he’s going to be as the season progresses.

Dillingham is better than most thought. Sheppard is certainly better than most thought.

Edwards is coming around. I would rather have an Edwards progressing than a Poythress type that scores big in his first 4-5 games only to disappear after that.

This is going to be a very good to great defensive team. Especially once we have a rim protector. Or two even?

Freshmen laden team with low turnovers while playing fast?

Just unheard of.

But haters gotta hate. They have no other purpose in life.

Get on board or get out of the way.
 
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Does your point guard look to facilitate and pass first or attack to get his own more often? Id guess its about half and half with Wagner at best; and with a conventional point guard their responsibility has been to get everyone envolved. He may be better suited a 2guard. Regardless he's a baller that benifits the team. Gotta figure the best efficiency lineup and style.
Pretty smart observations I would say. And, maybe he will play more 2 as the season advances unless Cal is so sold on the idea he IS the PG.
 
Yep. They sure are trending up.

Wagner with the goose egg and Edwards getting bulk of his 13 points in garbage time.

Edit: Wagner scores with under a minute left to go in a blowout. Why is he even in there at that point? Apparently so he didn’t have a goose egg. Many mock drafts have him out of the first round already. He’s dreadful. And we have a kid with 11 points and 11 assists not starting at PG.
 
Yep. They sure are trending up.

Wagner with the goose egg and Edwards getting bulk of his 13 points in garbage time.

Edit: Wagner scores with under a minute left to go in a blowout. Why is he even in there at that point? Apparently so he didn’t have a goose egg. Many mock drafts have him out of the first round already. He’s dreadful. And we have a kid with 11 points and 11 assists not starting at PG.
Cal’s promises. Gotta get him drafted as high as possible. Trouble is, the more he plays tge lower his draft stock. Hope Wagner gets it going and earns his starting status.
 
We need them to play smart, team basketball and realize they aren’t the focal point of the offense. They are important pieces to the team.

But some people on here need tk stop acting like the 2 guys playing behind them aren’t better than the current starters and ignoring the team scores in bunches and has cold streaks. The bunches and cold streaks coincide with the lineups.

Doesn’t mean the starting lineup should change but minutes should (and are starting to) reflect. Thiero should probably start getting some of Edwards minutes if he doesnt start producing efficiently in non garbage time.
 
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Yep. They sure are trending up.

Wagner with the goose egg and Edwards getting bulk of his 13 points in garbage time.

Edit: Wagner scores with under a minute left to go in a blowout. Why is he even in there at that point? Apparently so he didn’t have a goose egg. Many mock drafts have him out of the first round already. He’s dreadful. And we have a kid with 11 points and 11 assists not starting at PG.
He was the SEC player of the week last week jagoff.
 
Yep. They sure are trending up.

Wagner with the goose egg and Edwards getting bulk of his 13 points in garbage time.

Edit: Wagner scores with under a minute left to go in a blowout. Why is he even in there at that point? Apparently so he didn’t have a goose egg. Many mock drafts have him out of the first round already. He’s dreadful. And we have a kid with 11 points and 11 assists not starting at PG.
You talk too much.
 
The recent commentsim this thread just reinforce that Cal’s defenders cannot sit back and take it when you are critical of his “given-not earned five-star guys. Why? Because it’s ultimately a criticism of CCC.
 
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