USC 98 Lady Cats 36

[Fox2monk]

Not a good team and not a good coaching job by any means, but, I will give her lots if credit for looking much more professional in her duties as a SEC and Division I coach than USC's coach.

Sorry, but Dawn Staley is not my type of woman or person. She reaffirmed that point again tonight when, on national TV, she sported a green Michael Vick jersey. Wow! That certainly (by design) clashed with the garnet and black of South Carolina. So, just what in the hell was she doing by wearing that green jersey? What political statement -- Dawn is known for those -- is she trying to make there? What really is at work here, in my view, is that she's like so many who get to say or do what they want, when they win of course, and feel emboldened by that success to make whatever insipid kind of political statement -- in this case, some kind of statement of support perhaps for a guy who was heavily involved in the most honorable sport of dogfighting. So, she can't just let the game be all about her kids playing basketball, it has to be squarely about her and the Vick jersey.

Again, why? Why Michael Vick of all people. In fact, why is she wearing that kind of disrespectful garb on a national holiday that should be reason enough to come out looking great for your kids? Why? Well, it's when a highly-paid D-I coach chooses instead to bring the spotlight on herself for unknown reasons by looking like a commoner and taking the spotlight off of her kids. That's certainly not good leadership. That, in fact, is most embarrassing and a deed that I would certainly think is questioned by her boss (I'm not entirely sure every regent or every administrator at USC is comfortable with ol' Dawn's choice of wardrobe, but she and her team won by 62 so, hmmm, "I guess we'll just conveniently look the other way, shall we?" You have to wonder what she was really trying to "say." "It did leave me thinking, Gosh, who is the real winner here?" I think I know who the real winner was tonight, and I kind of know what Dawn was up to with the Vick jersey. Bad form Dawn -- really bad form. I'm curious to see what you think.

Coach Elzy tonight looked like a leader of women. She may not be the one for this job, as I like many of you have my personal doubts, but tonight, I was at least very proud of her representation of UK, as she dressed professionally, even in a losing cause, was dressed honorably and appropriately to the occasion of MLK Day, and looked a hell of a lot better than Dawn Staley.

I can’t stand that woman. Probably something stupid.

 

[WildcatNC]

Wanna bet? No?

Does sarcasm not register well with you?

Betting they will win any game is a bad bet. This team could lose to anyone anytime.

 

[stenchymouse]

I just don't pay attention to it when we're bad...

I almost forgot that we even HAVE a women's team the past few years.

If Barnhardt is good with it, so am I.

 

[BigBlueManSouthCentralKY]

Barnhart should apologize to the players on the team knowing she should have been gone before this season. He allowed the worst coach there is to destroy the season and set the program another year behind. If we knew should be gone he had to also. He let the program and players down because of.....

 

[KYCAT78]

Why was she ever named the coach again? I can’t remember.

Because Barney is a idiot. He should be fired at same time.

 

[FtWorthCat]

Someone else made a post last week about how successful the Transy women's program is. Murray State is leading the nation in scoring, and their only two losses were at Arkansas and at Indiana. I believe they beat UK last year. So there are two potential coaching replacements right in Kentucky.

 

[jeffky]

JULI FULKS

 

[IFerg1969]

LOL she is the Kenny Payne of woman’s college basketball
No further comment

She took a women's program that was on solid footing 3 years ago and has quickly driven it right into the ground.

 

[sluggercatfan]

That’s an instant firing kind of loss with all that’s going on.

She gave it her best shot but she’s gotta go.

MB won't let anyone go until after the season barring a scandal.

 

[bbncal02]

They could always hire me, I guarantee I could get them to lose by less. What a terrible terrible hire. Extended her after that BS SEC run.

I just don’t understand the contract extensions. Like I get after that run if you want to keep her. Hard to oust a coach after wining any kind of title. Bad optics.

Give her a 1 year extension 2 at most. Because then you give a coach a chance to keep success going or if it tanks, you reevaluate. When you give someone 5 or more you are sandbagging yourself if something goes awry.

 

[kywildcat41035]

They need to ship her and Cal to losers island

Bingo and take Mitch with them…….

 

[kywildcat41035]

Oh look at you, are you available to perform at my kids birthday party? All the clowns here are booked. It’s Saturday. Thanks

The biggest clowns are in charge of UK’s athletic programs from the AD on down….. Mitch, Cal, Elzy, and Stoops just to name a few….

 

[drew_ukfan]

Idk why yall are mad, I love seeing the diversity in our head coaching ranks.

 

[BobbyBlue32]

I just don’t understand the contract extensions. Like I get after that run if you want to keep her. Hard to oust a coach after wining any kind of title. Bad optics.

Give her a 1 year extension 2 at most. Because then you give a coach a chance to keep success going or if it tanks, you reevaluate. When you give someone 5 or more you are sandbagging yourself if something goes awry.

She was literally given a 1 year extension. Her original contract ran through 2026 and was extended to 2027 after winning the SEC Tournament.

 

[maysvilleky]

She took a women's program that was on solid footing 3 years ago and has quickly driven it right into the ground.

Something is definitely wrong. Do they even have 8 scholarship players at this point?

 

[bbncal02]

She was literally given a 1 year extension. Her original contract ran through 2026 and was extended to 2027 after winning the SEC Tournament.

No see that was already too much. When she as hired in 2020 it should have been a 2 year deal. When she won in 2022, extend it to end this season. And it would have worked out for the better. You can’t hire a first time head coach to a 6 year deal. That’s insanity.

 

[FirewithFire]

The only way UK takes that kind of ass kicking is if her team quit on her....again. She should have been fired immediately after the game. Maybe the players thought that is what would happen if they tanked. Guess they haven't met Mitch before.

 

[BobbyBlue32]

No see that was already too much. When she as hired in 2020 it should have been a 2 year deal. When she isn’t in 2022, extend it to end this season. And it would have worked out for the better. You can’t hire a first time head coach to a 6 year deal. That’s insanity.

What college coach has ever gotten a 2 year deal? Where do y’all get this stuff from? Not that she can recruit now but a 2 year deal would absolutely kill your new coach’s ability to recruit.

 

[ManitouDan]

Man we need to recruit sooooo. Much better , I watched about 90 seconds in Q1 , while it was still relatively close , our guards were so small compared to them

 

[cat_in_the_hat]

No see that was already too much. When she as hired in 2020 it should have been a 2 year deal. When she won in 2022, extend it to end this season. And it would have worked out for the better. You can’t hire a first time head coach to a 6 year deal. That’s insanity.

That's an easy argument to make after the fact. The truth is a coach has got to be able to recruit. If you give a coach a two year deal, then you are basically saying to recruits there is a good chance your coach won't be here for your full career. I think that would be setting your coach up for failure. Fundamentally, I think what's wrong with coach's contracts are that there is guaranteed money. A school should be able to fire a coach for poor performance with little more than a small severance. Unfortunately, the market doesn't agree with my point of view. You simply can't attract a good coach if you don't guarantee a good amount of salary.

 

[BelfryKYCatFanatic]

South Carolina, LSU and Tennessee are the SEC. The rest is trash tbh

 

[bbncal02]

What college coach has ever gotten a 2 year deal? Where do y’all get this stuff from? Not that she can recruit now but a 2 year deal would absolutely kill your new coach’s ability to recruit.

I just think it’s crazy to shell out money for 6 years for a person that’s never been a HC. Especially at a major university. There has to be a middle ground between giving a coach time and also being able to axe them without paying through the nose.

 

[bbncal02]

That's an easy argument to make after the fact. The truth is a coach has got to be able to recruit. If you give a coach a two year deal, then you are basically saying to recruits there is a good chance your coach won't be here for your full career. I think that would be setting your coach up for failure. Fundamentally, I think what's wrong with coach's contracts are that there is guaranteed money. A school should be able to fire a coach for poor performance with little more than a small severance. Unfortunately, the market doesn't agree with my point of view. You simply can't attract a good coach if you don't guarantee a good amount of salary.

I get that. But at the same time, should a coach basically get a blank check for 6 years of poor performance?

 

[jeffky]

Juli fulks record at transy
47 games has not lost a game since Nov 18th 2022 and went 33 - 0 last season and hung that big banner big time in your backyard mitch
JULI FULKS

 

[coolclay63]

Juli fulks record at transy
47 games has not lost a game since Nov 18th 2022 and went 33 - 0 last season and hung that big banner big time in your backyard mitch
JULI FULKS

Be a huge task going from Transy to UK and the SEC. She would need time to turn it around.

 

[jeffky]

Be a huge task going from Transy to UK and the SEC. She would need time to turn it around.

No it doesn't there is no truth to your statement Alabama just hired a Football coach that coached 5 years in the naia in South Dakota hung 3 banners while being there

 

[Jakerz]

Women’s basketball is a title 9 sport.

What I mean by that is it’s going to get played no matter what. So you can just boycott the games or the team. Nobody goes anyways.
Only way to improve starts with the AD. Unfortunately we got Mitch. So in other words, this is gonna keep on the way it is. No improvement

 

[YardCat]

She just needs Uber talent and she can 20 games a year and maybe a couple in tournaments

 

[ck-2]

If she’s fired does it mean we’re racist? You know like with Tubby.

 

[coolclay63]

No it doesn't there is no truth to your statement Alabama just hired a Football coach that coached 5 years in the naia in South Dakota hung 3 banners while being there

Well he coached at Washington after that and went to the National Championship game. He didn't go straight from Naia to Alabama. The Transy coach needs to coach DI first and maybe Kentucky could be that opportunity. They will probably be a top 6 candidate.

 

[jeffky]

Well he coached at Washington after that and went to the National Championship game. He didn't go straight from Naia to Alabama. The Transy coach needs to coach DI first and maybe Kentucky could be that opportunity. They will probably be a top 6 candidate.

Actually Fresno st won big time there then Washington hired him and won big time there see what we are getting at no matter what level if you can coach you can coach
JULI FULKS

 

[cat_in_the_hat]

I get that. But at the same time, should a coach basically get a blank check for 6 years of poor performance?

That's what I'm saying. The problem is guaranteed money in that 6 year contract. They should written more on the basis of performance. If they don't perform, they don't get hardly any of the remaining money. Unfortunately, the market doesn't buy into that argument. The market for coaches is such that you wouldn't get a very good coach if you only offered that type of contract. The market certainly favors coaches when negotiating a contract.

 

[bbncal02]

That's what I'm saying. The problem is guaranteed money in that 6 year contract. They should written more on the basis of performance. If they don't perform, they don't get hardly any of the remaining money. Unfortunately, the market doesn't buy into that argument. The market for coaches is such that you wouldn't get a very good coach if you only offered that type of contract. The market certainly favors coaches when negotiating a contract.

It’s insane that the market accepts that when practically no other business on earth works that way.

 

[coolclay63]

Actually Fresno st won big time there then Washington hired him and won big time there see what we are getting at no matter what level if you can coach you can coach
JULI FULKS

She will be a candidate but knowing Mitch, probably will go after an Assistant coach from a Power 5 program.

 

[Soupbean]

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Hours of USC women tape. Blueprint for victory.

Good Grief that's embarrasing

 

[jeffky]

She will be a candidate but knowing Mitch, probably will go after an Assistant coach from a Power 5 program.

Knowing mitch you're probably right

 

[Soupbean]

Don't understand why she was picked a coach for UK Women's Program. They need to fire her tomorrow. She is clearly in over her head.

Kyra was a big part of Mitchells early staff when he had it going. She's a Tennessee grad who played for Pat Summit so she went back there for a few years before coming back. She a real nice person (helped her buy her first home) and she knows basketball, you can hear that when she talks it. But just has had a hard time getting the talent she needs and getting them to play up to the level needed.

 

[cat_in_the_hat]

Kyra was a big part of Mitchells early staff when he had it going. She's a Tennessee grad who played for Pat Summit so she went back there for a few years before coming back. She a real nice person (helped her buy her first home) and she knows basketball, you can hear that when she talks it. But just has had a hard time getting the talent she needs and getting them to play up to the level needed.

She seems great. I really want her to succeed, but you are correct that she doesn't seem to able to recruit like she needs to.

 

[Kybluedude]

Kyra was a big part of Mitchells early staff when he had it going. She's a Tennessee grad who played for Pat Summit so she went back there for a few years before coming back. She a real nice person (helped her buy her first home) and she knows basketball, you can hear that when she talks it. But just has had a hard time getting the talent she needs and getting them to play up to the level needed.

Do you think she is too much of a disciplinarian… coming from Pat Summitt … who was tough in that regard?

Discipline from a HC doesn’t fly much these days with players.

I wondered at the beginning of the season when she said she wanted a smaller in numbers roster.

 

[~UK~]

Juli fulks record at transy
47 games has not lost a game since Nov 18th 2022 and went 33 - 0 last season and hung that big banner big time in your backyard mitch
JULI FULKS

+1

julie has a system that I’d love to see at UK.

https://www.kentucky.com/sports/college/article271857312.html