Need either Johnson or Diallo to round out the backcourt. I prefer Johnson as he is a senior and will be here for two years.
Update on Diallo....
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I don't agree with that. Cal told him to do what he felt like he needed to do. He gives advice and they can take it or not. I don't think Cal would encourage the kid to not play and hope to be drafted on measurables. He's too damn competitive for that.
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Not playing seems to have both pros and cons, and I'm not really sure which will outweigh the other. I do find it hard to believe a team makes him a first round pick in a talented draft without any tape of him against non-high schoolers. But, much crazier things have happened in the draft. A guy named Jan Vesely was picked sixth overall several years ago.
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I'd like Diallo but I agree that one of the two will be huge for the roster.
guess you all are either not aware or forgot that there have and were plenty of players that didnt play a single college game and did just fine.
Perhaps all Diallo needs is a guarantee that he’ll receive a Ulis-like 2nd round contract (multi-year, two year minimum, guaranteed around $1.5 million after taxes). He could go D-league and a GM could stash him for a few seasons and hope his upside takes him back to the league, essentially acting as a lottery pick at a bargain price.
Then again, if you follow what Cal, Diallo’s coaches, and Diallo himself have previously said, it sounds like he understands his current limitations. The only relevant question at this point then becomes whether Diallo believes he can become a top 20 pick in next summer’s draft. If he's confident in enhancing his stock, he comes back to Kentucky.
Then again, if you follow what Cal, Diallo’s coaches, and Diallo himself have previously said, it sounds like he understands his current limitations. The only relevant question at this point then becomes whether Diallo believes he can become a top 20 pick in next summer’s draft. If he's confident in enhancing his stock, he comes back to Kentucky.
Edit: Brain fart - was thinking of his fourth year as being a senior. He will be a grad student for two years because of early graduation. Sorry.
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Yea, but how many of those guys were not projected lottery picks? We all know great players have made the straight out of high school jump, but I can't recall any in the modern era being successful who were projected 2nd round picks. I hope it works for him tho.
He has zero high-level game time for scouts to evaluate. When players like Monk, Fox, and Fultz skip, what you're saying makes sense. But what stock does he have to protect? His wingspan and vertical jump? Sheesh. Mychal Mulder ought to be a lottery pick.
Cracks me up how there are two camps who see this news entirely differently. I guess my take is that I can see both sides, but if he pulled out of playing and is coming back, why get measured? They can do that at UK.
Do they do the measuring stuff the first day, and is that tomorrow? I gotta think this is over this week sometime. Either he comes back or hires an agent.
Do they do the measuring stuff the first day, and is that tomorrow? I gotta think this is over this week sometime. Either he comes back or hires an agent.
Again, no one really knows what Cal told him. We all play this game on here of "no no no, Cal's plan was this blah blah the whole time". But none of us know. It's amazing how many posters on here act like Cal is completely transparent with us on everything.
I was kinda disappointed to find out that Diallo only has a 34 inch vertical, they way people praised his jumping ability I fully expected him to jump 40+ inches.
You're right that no one knows. It is all just opinions. I think Cal thought the kid would play last year. But he told him it was his decision. My gut tells me Cal was disappointed that he didn't. The kid seems to have someone in his ear telling him to show as little of his game as possible and I don't think that's Cal. That's not his style. I feel pretty sure Cal knows the kid is taking someone else's advice and that he's staying in the draft. He let Knox know that which locked up his commitment. I'll take Knox all day. He's simply a better player. Good luck to Diallo but at some point somebody's going to want him to actually play basketball. Hope he's up to it.
It's not just the measuring, he's able to individually work out for teams in private too, so that's why he wouldn't just come back.
Okay, buddy. You be you and by that I mean, live in a world of delusion where you always eat up the BS fed to you and worship and agree with everything.
I hope you don't mock UNC and Louisville fans for doing the same thing that you do.
The only reason you would not play five on five as a guy who has not played an organized game in years, is to hide from being exposed. It's why he didn't play in college as well.
So many folks are delusional on here. They can't stand reality. Eveything is rainbows and unicorns. "All a part of the master plan." Haha
Diallo was never going to play. I doubt very much he's coming back. If he was testing the waters and wanting feedback then why would you not play in this and get feedback?
This is to yet again, hide himself in hopes of getting drafted and not have his game exposed in some capacity. That's the only explanation.
Do you ever post where you aren't insulting someone?
Where are you getting the info he hadn't played organized ball in YEARS? He played half a high school season this year, and the full aau the previous summer. You make it seem as if HD hasn't set foot on a court since 2014 or something.
AAU ball and high school ball are trash when you're contending for a NBA spot. He hasn't played major basketball at all. He needs to show he can actually compete. We've seen plenty of guys who were ranked at his spot or higher end up not being NBA worthy.
I think it should be obvious to everyone that this guy is trying to hide himself in hopes of getting a spot with as little revealed about his game as possible.
You make a good point,what does he think he can do and where is the best place to do it(NBA,D-league or college) He is eventually going to have to play in front of the public in any case.One has to admit this is a unique situation that seems to get more strange as the days go by.There seems to be little doubt that there are issues in play here we know nothing about(1) what does Cal know about Diallo's end game plan, (2)is Cal playing a role in directing what is happening,(3)is Diallo in good standing to return to UK(4) did Knox's decision impact Diallo's plans.
I get the whole making the best decision for the kid part of this,but the way this is playing out(not playing in the 5X5,then going to play,then not going to play)has to raise questions.If he was a 7' shot blocker and rebounder it would be a bit different but there are plenty of 6'5" very athletic people in the world who aren't great basketball players,like someone else in another post, said by metrics alone Mulder could be a high draft pick(so would Bob Fowler have been years ago)
is there any real proof that Diallo has ever played basketball before in his life? I'm with the poster that said Diallo is really a bunch of squirrels in a trench coat that will topple over if forced to run.
Idk man, aau ball is basically all many of these gms need to see. Marvin Bagley does not need to step foot on a NCAA campus to go #1 in next years draft. You are living in the 80's as far as basketball knowledge goes. If there was no OAD rule all of these top high school players would be top pucks based solely off of aau ball.
We are dire need of guards. Ham is a 2. Know is a 3/4 who would rather play the 3
And you're crazy if you think all AAU ball is fantastic. Not everyone that plays AAU ball is big time.
And why do you think they made the one and done rule? It's so they don't get burned by frauds.
He has already graduated, or else he wouldn't be able to play immediately.
That 34.5 inch vertical was from one camp 2 years ago. I would probably take that with a grain of salt.
Stephen Jackson went to college.... 2 full years of CC/juco. We're talking HS to pros.
You are correct, a brain fart on my side (I was thinking of his fourth year in school, not graduating early). oops.
As far as Diallo, I would think he would now hire an agent if he's staying in....but I have no idea how this strange thing is going to play out.
Off the top of my head, Monta Ellis was a second round pick out of HS who has done very well for himself.
Lou Williams is another.
I can't speak for NBA scouts but there is a lot of buzz on twitter he's being viewed as a late 1st rounder.
Two things are clear.
1. He wants to go pro.
2. He likes to protect himself.
He didn't want to play last year to avoid showing weakness in his game.
Surely to God he goes SOMEWHERE in the draft. I think we can agree not hiring an agent equates to he wants at minimum a 1st round guarantee.
If Scouts give you that without playing--why play and risk lowering it with a bad showing? And as above, he wants to protect himself.
If they say he may go in the 2nd round, then at that point you almost have to play, no? Makes no sense to go and try to get your first round promise and not give it your all to show that you deserve it.
I did read a report that most NBA teams think he's a lotto pick next year--and if you can get him this year in the 20's and surround him with NBA coaches and trainers that has to feel like a solid deal.
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