unc cheat paying the price even without sanctions

[reignof cats]

Even without sanctions, UNC already paying price for academic scandal

For everyone who is getting ready to jump off the bridge this recruiting season. Enjoy reading this!!! We still have a top class and may get some more kids. The lack of speed in which the ncaa operates is killing the cheaters. The cheats should have jumped out in front of this 4 or 5 years ago but choose to do everything but. Now unc can not get top recruits to even visit the campus. GBB

 

[gjcollins79]

very good news. The NCAA will continue to drag its feet in the investigation. This is kinda like spending many years on death row and when it comes down to the end, your sentence finally gets carried out.
The NCAA should definitely look at the death penalty for this sham.

 

[maysvilleky]

Maybe if all that "JUNK" hadn't occurred in the first place, UNC wouldn't have the problems they are having.

 

[KMKAT]

Ingram told us it was UNC if not for the cloud hanging over Roy's head.

UNC will have to depend on their returnees, which may make them a contender, but they will still have problems going forward, and that works for me.

 

[docholiday51]

It is good to see them suffer in the area of recruiting,but until there is some measure of accountability for what everyone(except the NCAA) knows has occured over the past 20+ years at UNC it is the greatest ongoing academic/athletic injustice in history.

As long as this continues to go unaddressed anyone involved in college athletics that is tied to the NCAA should feel some degree of shame.

 

[downw/ball-lineD]

IMO, there is no punishment that is too great for that University!!!! Absolutely loathe that pro(sham)

 

[Smashcat]

As long as this continues to go unaddressed anyone involved in college athletics that is tied to the NCAA should feel some degree of shame

True, but from what I can see those at the center of this scandal, those in charge at UNC, are shameless.

 

[Askeladden]

Even a high school senior has more stones to call out UNC*** for their transgressions than the NCAA. It's completely laughable at this point.

 

[BobbyG_tickle_swerv]

Yep, as long as there's a possibility of sanctions other coaches will successfully "negative recruit" UNC. However, opposing what's in the article, by all accounts I've seen the NCAA is not waiting on SACS. In fact the NCAA, according to their own words, should have already presented their findings to UNC by now. For whatever reason they pushed this back once again, Ingram alluded to it in one of his latest interviews. This was not the first time they said they were ready, only to back out. Who knows why they keep doing this, imo it's because they don't want another PSU situation were they over-step their jurisdiction, but we shall see.

 

[reignof cats]

Yep, as long as there's a possibility of sanctions other coaches will successfully "negative recruit" UNC. However, opposing what's in the article, by all accounts I've seen the NCAA is not waiting on SACS. In fact the NCAA, according to their own words, should have already presented their findings to UNC by now. For whatever reason they pushed this back once again, Ingram alluded to it in one of his latest interviews. This was not the first time they said they were ready, only to back out. Who knows why they keep doing this, imo it's because they don't want another PSU situation were they over-step their jurisdiction, but we shall see.

Penn State was a criminal matter. Academic / Athletic Fraud is in the ncaa's wheel house for every other school that is not dook or unc.

 

[Federal Cat]

Par for the course right, not gonna hold my breath waiting for the hammer, or hand slap in this case.

 

[westerncat]

Before the Tar Heels’ case can be finally be resolved, the NCAA must first wait for the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools to rule on UNC’s accreditation status. It would then have to issue a Notice of Allegations, allow time for school officials to prepare a response and plead their case at a formal hearing.

I guess this is why it is taking the NCAA so long to do something. Hope this drags out for a while and they can't get any recruits for next year. Serves those cheaters right.

 

[JPScott]

Before the Tar Heels’ case can be finally be resolved, the NCAA must first wait for the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools to rule on UNC’s accreditation status. It would then have to issue a Notice of Allegations, allow time for school officials to prepare a response and plead their case at a formal hearing.

I guess this is why it is taking the NCAA so long to do something. Hope this drags out for a while and they can't get any recruits for next year. Serves those cheaters right.

I always find it funny how in the old days the NCAA did anything it chose to do, regardless of its own precedent, regardless of their own rules & regulations, regardless of any due process and regardless of other governing bodies with more appropriate authority. I might also add regardless of proof or even common logic in many cases.

Now when it comes to UNC, people jump out of the woodwork claiming the NCAA is severely constrained in what they can do, for one reason or another. (although curiously no citation is ever provided).

Unless someone can cite an actual legal example illustrating what they claim, I take it as just more smoke and mirrors.

In UNC's case the only thing that really matters is whether the school utilized players who should have been ineligible.

The evidence to date has shown that this indeed is the case.

FWIW, A thorough review of all athlete transcripts over the past few decades would most likely uncover just how pervasive this practice became and for how long it has been going on. (As evidence has already come to light that the fraud was going on before Deborah Crowder got involved, meaning Wainstein's explanation of its origin was incomplete and frankly far too simplistic.)

 

[poppycat]

UNC won't get hurt this year, they really didn't need anyone.

 

[BobbyG_tickle_swerv]

I always find it funny how in the old days the NCAA did anything it chose to do, regardless of its own precedent, regardless of their own rules & regulations, regardless of any due process and regardless of other governing bodies with more appropriate authority. I might also add regardless of proof or even common logic in many cases.

Now when it comes to UNC, people jump out of the woodwork claiming the NCAA is severely constrained in what they can do, for one reason or another. (although curiously no citation is ever provided).

Unless someone can cite an actual legal example illustrating what they claim, I take it as just more smoke and mirrors.

In UNC's case the only thing that really matters is whether the school utilized players who should have been ineligible.

The evidence to date has shown that this indeed is the case.

FWIW, A thorough review of all athlete transcripts over the past few decades would most likely uncover just how pervasive this practice became and for how long it has been going on. (As evidence has already come to light that the fraud was going on before Deborah Crowder got involved, meaning Wainstein's explanation of its origin was incomplete and frankly far too simplistic.)

Really? When were those grades/class credits thrown out?