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The Fall of UNC-Cheats

Hubert was an awful, lazy hire.
He knows about all of their past sins, main reason he was hired. They are like the mob that they keep it in the family and him being an AA head coach is just a plus in todays climate. I would assume the latter part will keep him there for a couple years past where they would end most coaches reign if his results stay consistent with this years team.
 
6-9 PF Gregory Jackson is considered a lock to UNCheat unless he skips college. Would be a good time for UK to get involved with him imo. Not a large number of elite bigs in the 2023 class.
What if he skips college? Should we waste time on another kid who may commit to never play here?
 
Sort of the situation we were in with Tubby. Some still think race played in his departure and this will be what happens at UNC.
Some people will never leave race out of things but it is what it is.
That was also back during a time where people weren’t literally attacked over such things. Today they will be crucified for letting him go, or “forcing” him to take another job.
 
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Maybe this is NCAA BB Karma. Since the NCAA didn't punish UNC...maybe the Universe decided to do it for them.

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Me waiting on the universe to punish Duke and KU.
 
The last couple weeks on the Uncheats board they are starting to surrender him to Dook. GG is visiting Dook this weekend and apparently have all the momentum in that recruitment now. No elite recruits really want to play at Uncheats anymore.
Well that’s just great . Hell , I’d rather him go to UNCheat.
 
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IMO, UNC can not lose enough games. Period. The entire program is And always has been a facade. Cheating POS program that held itself out as being a forerunner to integration, when in reality the cheated thousands of AA out of an education.

no sympathy. None.

While I agree they allowed it, there wasn’t one black player or his parents that didn’t go along. If the parents didn’t know they weren’t going to class then they weren’t doing their jobs. There are no victims in this scandal. Everyone of them should be held accountable including the players that agreed to the fraud.

This is no longer a logical world of reason, that died with the greats generation. So I get what you’re saying and yea, UNC pretending to be a bastion of morality while perpetuating a fraud while USING Black American academics should be called out. But they’re not.
 
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The Cheaters suffered another blowout loss to an unranked and ordinary Wake Forest team. It's starting to look like they may well miss the NCAA tournament. It's also looking like a steep decline for a program that has struggled for three years now. Hubert Davis looks overmatched as the head coach. And I don't see them being able to get rid of their first African American head coach, an honored former player with strong ties inside the Community of Cheater Hoops until at least year three.

It is hard to say how long they may struggle -- a couple more years? Through the next coaching transition? A decades-long Indiana type decline? No one thought that was possible for Indiana either in the early 1990s.

Some perspective: 12 years ago the Cheaters were all convinced they were going to supplant Kentucky - not just for all-time wins which they had held for years until the late 1990s -- but overall. After all, they'd actually won some championships, had the hottest coach in the sport, were in a celebrated conference with ESPN fawning over them as much as Duke back then, and were still living off Michael Jordan's legacy to a degree.

To me, this strongly suggests
1. You need to be very careful about coaching changes.
2. The ebb and flow of the sport plays out over years. UNC-Cheats was a much stronger contender to Kentucky's throne as the Greatest Program of All Time in 2009-10 than Duke heading into the Post-K era or certainly the Jailhawks, with their meager championship accomplishments, dirty, cheating reputation and second-rate conference affiliation.

Kentucky will be fine at the top, especially if Calipari has another half dozen good years and the transition to the next coach is handled right.
their biggest mistake in both Doherty (Guthridge) and Davis is allowing the coach to have too much influence in selecting his successor as well as this idea of keeping it in the family instead of going after the best coach available.

so yes, you absolutely need to be careful about coaching changes and have criteria for a replacement that proves he knows how to take the program to the highest level. UK, UNC, Duke, Kansas are not programs where you learn on the job.

The strength of Kentucky is tied to the belief that we have to hire the best coach and make available to him the best resources. The fans demand it and its also why there is very little grace period or tolerance for extended rebuilding. Its why we've had 5 different coaches win championships here.

There may be an ebb and flow in our competition, historically there is no ebb and flow in the Kentucky basketball program.

Fans not only should accept, but based on our past history, be fully committed to the idea that our program's greatness didn't begin, nor will it end with John Calipari
 
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UNC keeps it in family and we know why. Question is for how long? As another poster said, there isn't a roy to save them this time.

Scheyer will do fine because Nike is staying in the fold for them
 
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The same thing can happen here as seen with BCG. You can’t have a coach lead a blue blood with no big time experience let alone success.

Wonder if the hilljacks down there are crying and whining about the hire now when they were probably for it to begin with.

Seems to me like we have a few around here that are awfully quiet about Hubert but were singing a different tune about him a few months ago. Typical snake in the grass behavior
 
The Cheaters suffered another blowout loss to an unranked and ordinary Wake Forest team. It's starting to look like they may well miss the NCAA tournament. It's also looking like a steep decline for a program that has struggled for three years now. Hubert Davis looks overmatched as the head coach. And I don't see them being able to get rid of their first African American head coach, an honored former player with strong ties inside the Community of Cheater Hoops until at least year three.

It is hard to say how long they may struggle -- a couple more years? Through the next coaching transition? A decades-long Indiana type decline? No one thought that was possible for Indiana either in the early 1990s.

Some perspective: 12 years ago the Cheaters were all convinced they were going to supplant Kentucky - not just for all-time wins which they had held for years until the late 1990s -- but overall. After all, they'd actually won some championships, had the hottest coach in the sport, were in a celebrated conference with ESPN fawning over them as much as Duke back then, and were still living off Michael Jordan's legacy to a degree.

To me, this strongly suggests
1. You need to be very careful about coaching changes.
2. The ebb and flow of the sport plays out over years. UNC-Cheats was a much stronger contender to Kentucky's throne as the Greatest Program of All Time in 2009-10 than Duke heading into the Post-K era or certainly the Jailhawks, with their meager championship accomplishments, dirty, cheating reputation and second-rate conference affiliation.

Kentucky will be fine at the top, especially if Calipari has another half dozen good years and the transition to the next coach is handled right.
The Cheaters suffered another blowout loss to an unranked and ordinary Wake Forest team. It's starting to look like they may well miss the NCAA tournament. It's also looking like a steep decline for a program that has struggled for three years now. Hubert Davis looks overmatched as the head coach. And I don't see them being able to get rid of their first African American head coach, an honored former player with strong ties inside the Community of Cheater Hoops until at least year three.

It is hard to say how long they may struggle -- a couple more years? Through the next coaching transition? A decades-long Indiana type decline? No one thought that was possible for Indiana either in the early 1990s.

Some perspective: 12 years ago the Cheaters were all convinced they were going to supplant Kentucky - not just for all-time wins which they had held for years until the late 1990s -- but overall. After all, they'd actually won some championships, had the hottest coach in the sport, were in a celebrated conference with ESPN fawning over them as much as Duke back then, and were still living off Michael Jordan's legacy to a degree.

To me, this strongly suggests
1. You need to be very careful about coaching changes.
2. The ebb and flow of the sport plays out over years. UNC-Cheats was a much stronger contender to Kentucky's throne as the Greatest Program of All Time in 2009-10 than Duke heading into the Post-K era or certainly the Jailhawks, with their meager championship accomplishments, dirty, cheating reputation and second-rate conference affiliation.

Kentucky will be fine at the top, especially if Calipari has another half dozen good years and the transition to the next coach is handled right.
They and the NCAA dug this hole on October 13, 2017. Two of their last 3 championships should have stripped because of the fraud and they should of been ineligible due to fraud to play in the last one they won. They have no choice but to keep Hubert until they get someone that has been part of the fraud to take over.
 
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Let’s hope Scheyer has the same type of success/failure replacing the Rat at Duke.

Promoting an assistant to HC rarely works. To me it adds some light to how successful Joe B. Really was here being promoted from an assistant.
The only thing Scheyer has going for him is Coach K isn't leaving the cupboard as bare as Roy did. He has really hit up his boosters to step up with some sweet NIL deals to get a nice incoming class for Jon but he still has to coach them up and win with them. As Penny can attest you can't just roll the ball out on the floor and win.
 
Hubert also knows where all the bodies are buried. They really wanted to insulate themselves after getting out of the AFAM mess. Didn't want the next coach using the scandal as an excuse for any lack of success. Just my guess.
 
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Sort of the situation we were in with Tubby. Some still think race played in his departure and this will be what happens at UNC.
Some people will never leave race out of things but it is what it is.
Racism will never die as some people will never let it. Those who are claimed racist because they hate lebron are the same people whose favorite player is MJ. Would be comical if it weren’t so sad and true.
 
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All of you show how much we have become a microwave society. It takes time to bake a cake. It takes time to make quality barbecue. Hubert needs time. If given time, UNC will appreciate Hubert. Everything doesn't come in an instant. No way UNC can evaluate Hubert for at least a decade.
I said the same thing about Wil Mushchamp. You want him on the opposite sidelines.

I am all for Hubert Davis coaching until 80.
 
Im not sure Hubie is a terrible coach yet, but he definitely is terribly inexperienced. Hilarious and awesome that Uncheats has thrown him to the fire in almost a no-win situation. Roy left him a steaming pile of poo and now Hubie, with zero experience, is expected to do better than Roy did with the same steaming pile of poo. Their fan base and alumni are gonna eat themselves alive over the next few years.
 
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Hubert was an awful, lazy hire.
Having lived in NC for most of my life, they just refuse to go outside the family. My UNC fan friend is pissed about it, but it's just how they are. The bad decision was not offering Wes Miller, who is "in the family", but is also a promising young coach. Davis has no head coaching resume. Being an assistant doesn't prepare you for blue blood jobs. Duke is probably about to learn the same.
 
The Cheaters suffered another blowout loss to an unranked and ordinary Wake Forest team. It's starting to look like they may well miss the NCAA tournament. It's also looking like a steep decline for a program that has struggled for three years now. Hubert Davis looks overmatched as the head coach. And I don't see them being able to get rid of their first African American head coach, an honored former player with strong ties inside the Community of Cheater Hoops until at least year three.

It is hard to say how long they may struggle -- a couple more years? Through the next coaching transition? A decades-long Indiana type decline? No one thought that was possible for Indiana either in the early 1990s.

Some perspective: 12 years ago the Cheaters were all convinced they were going to supplant Kentucky - not just for all-time wins which they had held for years until the late 1990s -- but overall. After all, they'd actually won some championships, had the hottest coach in the sport, were in a celebrated conference with ESPN fawning over them as much as Duke back then, and were still living off Michael Jordan's legacy to a degree.

To me, this strongly suggests
1. You need to be very careful about coaching changes.
2. The ebb and flow of the sport plays out over years. UNC-Cheats was a much stronger contender to Kentucky's throne as the Greatest Program of All Time in 2009-10 than Duke heading into the Post-K era or certainly the Jailhawks, with their meager championship accomplishments, dirty, cheating reputation and second-rate conference affiliation.

Kentucky will be fine at the top, especially if Calipari has another half dozen good years and the transition to the next coach is handled right.
Delusional... we have been in a downward spiral for several years...don't gloat too much we are headed in the same direction as UNC.
 
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Delusional... we have been in a downward spiral for several years...don't gloat too much we are headed in the same direction as UNC.
I have no doubt your life is a big disappointment, but you are no Cat. Of all the full-time trolls weirdly wasting time here you are the least subtle. Why don’t you drop this account and start all over.
 
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The fall after Cal will be precipitous.

Right now many of the big name coaches have either moved on or are about to and those that aren't are in trouble ie Bill Self. This is precisely when us having Cal could really dominate the game (again) but unfortunately we have little orange insurrectionists running around trying to burn everything to the ground around him.
 
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The fall after Cal will be precipitous.

Right now many of the big name coaches have either moved on or are about to and those that aren't are in trouble ie Bill Self. This is precisely when us having Cal could really dominate the game (again) but unfortunately we have little orange insurrectionists running around trying to burn everything to the ground around him.
I think those littler orange insurrectionists were really responsible for the 9-16 season and the first round loss this year.

Good call, man.
 
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