Massachusetts 120-118 Fordham (Jan 15, 2025) Game Stats - ESPN
Complete team stats and game leaders for the Massachusetts Minutemen vs. Fordham Rams NCAAM game from January 15, 2025 on ESPN.
UMass vs Fordham: 79 fouls, 122 FTA, 10 players fouled out
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Over 60 threes shot. No way there should be that many free throws.
With a ton of calls many college basketball games are totally unwatchable now.
that’s the way they are coached.
That’s just embarrassing for the officials involved. I mean that is flat out lunacy. That is not basketball. Somebody has got to get this sh*% under control.
Going to the monitor every 5 minutes in a game is going to ruin March Madness. Games are lasting almost 3 hours nowadays.
That's inexcusable and refs calling 800 fouls a game isn't watchable.
That's inexcusable and refs calling 800 fouls a game isn't watchable.
That doesn’t seem possible and would be the worst game to watch in history.
What are you talking about? Mike Eades and Greg Sankey were probably on the phone trying to get them to the SEC.
So what should they do?? Allow all the hacking , pushing and illegal screens?? I’m with the other poster. Until coaches are forced to stop teaching this stuff, it’s gonna continue.
Many teams are coached to foul 50 times a game.
Duke players are taught to push the defender away before every shot. All 5 starters do it so it’s coached.
I would rather see officials not allow it and have rugby instead of basketball.
The Louisville title that was taken away was won like this. That team fouled 8-10 times every possession. The officials allowed them to hack their way to a title because the press was entertaining to watch.
The truth is basketball is a contact sport. The NBA decided that they wanted to get rid of the thugish gameplay and be more European so they invented this free flow gameplay crap. What it did was push certain types of player out of the game and do away with defense. Now the NBA is damned near unwatchable because it is so boring.
What to do is quite the conundrum. Refs can start by not being selective in making calls so that it benefits one team over the other.
Second, they can be consistent in how they call things from game to game and year to year. That sets a solid precedent and stops some of the sketchy teaching going on.
Third, stop favoring the offense. Stop with the shot flopping. Call illegal screens. I would like to see walks called again, as well as over the back.
There is no easy fix. Those players that the NBA pushed out play in college level ball. Either they go and play football or the rules are relaxed. Either way just call things even.
Refs were like:
You have to cringe every time a ref does the offensive foul shuffle when calling a charge.
Never will forget the time good ol' TV Teddy ran out to mid court to call a charge on us and looked like a Pointer dog.You have to cringe every time a ref does the offensive foul shuffle when calling a charge.
I would dispute this assessment of basketball historically being a rough and tumble sport. If you go watch highlights of Jerry West or Oscar Robertson or other greats of early eras like that, there wasn’t a bunch of hand checking or wrestling matches in the post, or any of the other stuff like that that gets glorified now, but was really pretty specific to the 80s and early 90s. And as much as some people are nostalgic for it now, that stuff wasn’t universally popular at the time it was actually happening either. Some inadvertent contact is inevitable, but I would argue that basketball isn’t really supposed to be a sport of constant collisions. I do agree that the officiating should be more consistent though.
Exactly. The NBA became absolute crap with that and I quit watching, just like I have college basketball and the nightly rock fights that the game has devolved into. The NBA drew me back in around 2014. One of my coworkers asked me is I was going to watch the Warriors v Spurs that night. I told him I rarely watched the NBA anymore and told him why. He told me if I wasn't doing anything else, to watch the first quarter and let him know how I liked it. It was a 9:30 game, and I usually went to bed around 11:00, so I watched the first quarter. The pace, spacing and ball movement was breathtaking. I not only watched the first quarter, but the entire game, which ended on a Steph Curry 40 ft three at the buzzer. I've been a fan ever since and have subscribed to NBA League pass for several seasons. They are the best players on the planet making incredible plays, while the NCAA twiddles its thumbs with FT shooting contests, play stoppages and monitor reviews. When you have a sport that has 40 minutes of live action and it takes 2:30 or more to get a game in, you have a problem. For most of the nation, college basketball has become a 4 week sport that starts in March. It's in desperate need of officiating and rules overhaul.
It’s not supposed to be a contact sport is probably what you meant to say. Allowing it to become one is what has ruined the purity of the game. The ncaa ought to be ashamed of itself for changing the rules as they have and allowing this to become what it has. I watch no games but UK. It is awful and many posters above are correct. It is coached that way.
No, I meant what I said. Basketball has been a contact sport for as long as I can claim to remember and that goes back almost five decades. Putting a body on someone means just that. It's funny how people have always turned a blind eye to what goes on in the paint, but don't you dare touch the precious guards.
The contact part peaked in the 90s and early 2Ks as offensive players became to much to contain; ala the Jordan Rules. You had enforcers in the paint like Oakley and Laimbeer. College had them too. Remember Riddick and Magloire, a couple of UK favorites? Then the NBA started to enforce the 3 second rule and everything changed. The same thing needs to happen in college to open up the lanes.
By the late 90s thugs culture had become to much and something did need to be done as contact had turned into collision. Now the pendulum has swung to far in the other direction. It's time to even things out.
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If coaches implement a philosophy/game strategy to play the game like a rugby scrum, I don’t understand why it’s embarrassing for officials to call fouls?
Does it make the game awful to watch? Yes
But the embedment should be on the coaches who cannot coach the game of basketball, not on the officials
Haaaaaate the monitor and committee huddle of referee's BS
KILLS flow & momentum
Probably somehow finds its way into
Referee's resumes though
Plus -- 'MONITOR CAM' 🥳
Watch your FAVORITE referee personality stare into a screen and make excruciating decisions, folks ..//😟
Makes me Cuss
Every post player gets an inside pass and immediately slams their shoulder into the man guarding them. Another dribble and another slam. He then turns to shoot and the whistle blows when the defender barely brushes him on the shot attempt.
What about the two shoulder bumps to get separation? Never called.
Same with jumping into contact instead of avoiding it. The teams that jumps in are rewarded. They are not attempting to make the shot. Only get fouled. The team that tries to make the shot and avoids contact doesn’t get anything.
very true...problem is, they try to keep these games somewhat close to even, in terms of fouls, as to appear unbiased, which favors these clowns that bastardize the game with that horrific style.
True, if that's the case, but in a lot of cases, and we've seen our fair share right here in Rupp, fouls just seem to materialize from nowhere with certain crews.
Sad but true. With coaches teaching this hold, bump, push style basketball and the sad state of officiating its rare to se a good game.
Yep the Knicks of the 90s with Anthony Mason and all the muscle bound oafs who couldn't shoot pretty much soured me on the league. Pat Riley couldn't get any real talent so he just thugged it up and several other teams followed suit. Boring.
I completely agree…however, that is a separate problem, and that IS an embarrassment for officials.
Seems like some of the refs want the game to be about them; they want the camera pointing at them.
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