Cmon man, shittinng on our coach and players is just being a fan.
*UK vs Gonzaga Game Thread*
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It needed up being a bad take but Robinson is let’s say too passive, I don’t know about soft but physical play has stalled his game. Don’t give our boy @Dontworryboutit23 too much grief he always owns up to his mistakes. He’s definitely not a hater troll either, he’s a true blue fan.
That one at the end gave me a heart attack too, it wasn’t an easy three by any stretch.
We not only beat Gonzaga, but the Rule of 71!
Oh, you must be talking about the guys who are simply unhappy that Cal is no longer here. I couldn't possibly care less about what those posters think.
I wouldn’t say their schedule is much tougher but yes it’s tougher overall w lot of quad 1 games. Like 5, but we have played at least 3.
What a high level game.
That game where Reeves scored 37 on the road and Knoxville last year were awesome. I’d say the Kansas and UNC games for overall fun Oscar’s first year were cool. Just sucked a cal sucks and couldn’t keep it up and ruined the, by the tournament again.
Appreciate it man, you and Saul are two of my favorites on here along with Bbn cal. That old sports guy only posts to come at people, that’s his whole thing
There were fun individual games for sure. It’s just we knew those wins were because of the players individual talent, not anything the coach did. Now we have great coaching, and the talent will only get better.
Would love to know who they were yelling at and what was said to them during the game. 😁 😁 😁
WE ARE BACK!!!!!
GO BIG BLUE!!!
It’s not that bad I mean I can see many people viewing him like that based on his play before tonight.
You should be embarrassed. Maybe see about getting some medication for your emotional instability.lol
Guess it’s good we only had 6 such games in 15 years but I’d love to see Calipari’s record being down let’s say 9-10 at halftime. We had what felt like loads of those type games his last 6-7 years.
Damn dude , you’re a genius. You should be embarrassed.
That was the major complaint I heard from byu fans was that Robinson was to passive and soft at times.
But that kind of drives the whole point home.
Yeah, that's alarming too. For Duke and Gonzaga.
My point is context matters and I think it's something that gets lost in both human polls and computer metrics.
Let's say you are playing a game and you are up 20-25 most of the game. 4 mins left in the game you decide you are going to put your bench guys in. You win by 10. The game was never in doubt. The only reason it was that close was because you made the decision to rest some starters.
Contrast that with a tight back and forth game where the trailing teams has to foul at the end and the leading team makes a bunch of free throws and extends the lead to win by 10.
The end result is both teams won by 10. That's what the polls see. That's what the metrics will also see. But the context matters. IMO, how you got there matters. The end result is great in terms of resume building, but we are trying to compete for national titles here, not just have a nice resume.
In three games vs Clemson, Duke and Gonzaga we had this:
vs Clemson 4:20 left in the game trail by 8, We had an 11.3% chance of winning the game at that point.
vs Duke trailed 42-32 at half. Trailed 61-53 with 9:55 left in the game. We had a 6.5% chance of winning at that point.
vs Gonzaga trailed 52-34. At that point we had a 3.1% chance of winning the game.
March is a one and done tournament. You can't put yourself behind the 8 ball too many times and expect to win six games in a row which is what we are striving for here.
That's why I said no one needs to "eat crow". There's some massive overreactions like most game threads but the issues in the first half were definitely worth discussing. And you can bet that while Pope is happy they won these games (always better to be on this side), he's also thinking right now how did we get down by that much to begin with and how can we prevent that going forward. It's just what good coaches and good teams do. Get better in additional to winning.
Excellent response as usual
And I agree Mark will work with the team to help
Prevent that situation.
That was a great response with some very valid points. But when we mention context, I think you have to put in the context that the first game against Duke is the first time this team had played together and then the game against Gonzaga we didn’t have our starting point guarf who literally drives the team so I believe in both of those games the situations were such that it took a while for them to get into the flow, not only against the other team, but with each other, but the adjustments were made. However, the Clemson game once they realized they weren’t hitting their shots adjustment should’ve been made much sooner and that game I was more concerned about than the other two not just because we lost, but because adjustments just did not seem to be made for the poor shooting.
Another excellent post
Mark himself said he did not adjust correctly to compensate for that. He got too caught up in making sure key players did not foul out. So it was a learning experience for him as well
I like that he took that responsibility as a coach..
Totally. And in the grand scheme of things we are talking about just three games. Extremely small sample to really base anything on.
No doubt. This was definitely impressive. And I think it really shows the experience this team had coming into the season. In the Duke game, we were outplayed a large majority that game. We executed down the stretch and Duke didn't. We are going to be in a TON of close games in conference play. Games that are going to come down to single possessions and who executes at the end. So this is encouraging.
I definitely do not want to diminish what's been accomplished here. It's two wins vs top 10 teams. Maybe even top 5 teams when it's all said and done. It's been a long long time since a UK team has looked this good this early in a season.
I guess I'm just thinking bigger here. I know a lot came into this season thinking ok we'll be good but this season was kind of a bridge year. After 9 games, I don't really think that anymore. I think this team is a potential contender.
Quite the fan aren’t you. Fifty seven pages and this is probably the dumbest comment of the bunch.
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To be honest with you? I’ve watched this team do this twice now, once in person in Atlanta, and I’ve had the same thought at halftime.
Both times I’ve been proven wrong so I’m going to keep my mouth shut!
A real fan (debatable) that said he didn't have any respect for older people. When asked if that was true he said it was. Crappy.
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Only way that is not a travel is if they thought we touched the ball first. I screamed and woke my wife up on that play. We did not touch the ball first. Was a walk.
That’s probably right. Not just because of missing Butler.
The Duke game was playing a team like us. They might have more individual talent but they were mostly new to each other too.
Our maturity won out more than physical talent.
The Gonzaga team was almost the same team as last year. Well coached. They know how to play together. And the first half showed. They rocked us back on our heels. Playing basically at home.
Out guys still don’t fully grasp the system. They still don’t know how to play with each other.
To just throw away that awful, embarrassing first half and take it to Gonzaga was just too impressive to describe.
Just scratching the surface of what they will become. And now they have the confidence to not back down from anyone.
There’s something special about this team.
It’s a true team. Pope and staff deserve a ton of credit.
And so do the players.
