Does Cal tell him the same thing he told Ulis. ..if you are coming here to stay four years...I don't want you
UK now trending for Vick
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Read on KSR that UK still hasn't offered, which seems to indicate they are waiting to hear from Murray. Since that decision could be weeks away, I wonder if this kid will wait. Meyer said UK is a "heavy lead".
Don't see how we would take both though. One of them would give us 6 guards as it is.
Don't see how we would take both though. One of them would give us 6 guards as it is.
Being that we're running a 3 guard lineup, having 6 guards may not be awful. I don't see a scenario where we don't offer the kid though. This thing is winding down and closing up in a couple of weeks I imagine.
No, he didn't, unless he was on the bench sprinkling magic fairy dust on the guys who were actually playing. Vargas played 198 minutes in 11-12, and scored 28 points total. He played double figure minutes 8 times, with a high of 17, and played 7 total minutes in the NCAA Tournament.
After all that we have been through since the beginning of April, if Vick chooses Kansas over us it just might be the end of me!
Only way I want Vick is after Murray decides. If he picks before Murray, while I don't want KU to have any more depth, I would prefer that to signing Vick, as I see no chance in hell we get Murray if Vick commits to UK first. Not that Vick would take mins from him, but you really think Murray is going to come to a school with 6 guards already on the roster?
Man I like a positive attitude but you are just WAY over the top. How in the world can say absolutely Mathews will only play in college 2 years tops ? Virtually every player that he is said to be similar too and virtually every player ranked in his range in previous years has had to stay 4 years . Didn't you learn a thing from the crap you caught about all the bold recruiting statements that backfired on you . I like ya dude but jeez .
So he is good at shooting 3's and a good midrange shooter but a weakness is shot mechanics? Alrighty Then !
Kansas is selling Vick the "Ben McClemore" plan where he will either RS or ride the bench for a year while learning the system and growing fully into his body for plenty of minutes next year.
Cal has offered Vick a scholarship for 2015 but not 2016. That is where the confusion lies at this point concerning who has offered, IMO.
Cal does not expect Vick to be a contributor and Vick is 100% OK with that. He was about to go to prep school. Remember? At UK, he will have the luxury of maturing against the best players in the nation day in and day out. That seems like a MUCH better option than prep school to this fine, well-spoken, hard working man.
He is a great athlete with a knack for the intangibles, but is still a bit "clumsy" with his game. He would be an EXCELLENT signee for UK at this juncture, but pumping him up to be a player that will be competing with Matthews and Mulder for minutes is premature at this point in time.
Between his height and skill set, nearly EVERY team in the nation would love to take a flyer on Vick this late in the period.
Vick's recruitment has absolutely ZERO correlation to the recruitment of Murray.
Murray would be in the rotation from day 1, Vick is not at that point yet in his game.
Not a "put down" on Vick AT ALL. He could become a GREAT player for UK, but it will not be this year, in my worthless opinion.
As always, I am completely full of crap and everything I say is told to me by small fairies at night LOL
UK is still looking to sign 2 more players, as I have stated. They are not necessarily looking for "instant big impact" players. The talent in Lexington is already at an insane level that is capable of cutting down the nets.
That is not a put down to any other future signees UK gets, either. Every team needs a rosterfull of players. Not all are recruited to be instant contributors.
Cal has offered Vick a scholarship for 2015 but not 2016. That is where the confusion lies at this point concerning who has offered, IMO.
Cal does not expect Vick to be a contributor and Vick is 100% OK with that. He was about to go to prep school. Remember? At UK, he will have the luxury of maturing against the best players in the nation day in and day out. That seems like a MUCH better option than prep school to this fine, well-spoken, hard working man.
He is a great athlete with a knack for the intangibles, but is still a bit "clumsy" with his game. He would be an EXCELLENT signee for UK at this juncture, but pumping him up to be a player that will be competing with Matthews and Mulder for minutes is premature at this point in time.
Between his height and skill set, nearly EVERY team in the nation would love to take a flyer on Vick this late in the period.
Vick's recruitment has absolutely ZERO correlation to the recruitment of Murray.
Murray would be in the rotation from day 1, Vick is not at that point yet in his game.
Not a "put down" on Vick AT ALL. He could become a GREAT player for UK, but it will not be this year, in my worthless opinion.
As always, I am completely full of crap and everything I say is told to me by small fairies at night LOL
UK is still looking to sign 2 more players, as I have stated. They are not necessarily looking for "instant big impact" players. The talent in Lexington is already at an insane level that is capable of cutting down the nets.
That is not a put down to any other future signees UK gets, either. Every team needs a rosterfull of players. Not all are recruited to be instant contributors.
Eclipsing, you said Cal has offered 2015 but not 2016, but I think you meant that the other way around, no?
No. I typed it right. Cal has a ride for him if he re-classifies to 2015 but wouldn't accept a commitment if he stays in 2016 this early in the game.
I hate comparisons and I seem to always get them WAY off, but to me, Vick reminds me of a slightly less talented Desmond Allison (As a FR) with more length, a heigher ceiling, and less "turmoil".
All in my worthless opinion.
I hate comparisons and I seem to always get them WAY off, but to me, Vick reminds me of a slightly less talented Desmond Allison (As a FR) with more length, a heigher ceiling, and less "turmoil".
All in my worthless opinion.
Ah, I see what you mean. But I read somewhere that we have not offered him yet, at least not unconditionally. Can't see Cal taking his commit before Murray decides.
Seriously? Murray is in a different league. He's top 20 in the '16 class, much less the shitty '15 class. Just looking at next season, it's not even close.
Immediate impact > developmental talent
Yeah do you wait for Murray and his unknown time line and risk getting neither or go for Vick now?
Since you want to be a tool, this one.
http://247sports.com/Player/Michael-Kidd-Gilchrist-7792?Institution=3420
Meyer seems adamant that the kid is instant offense, and coaches would have a hard time sitting him because of his dribble penetration, and overall scoring ability.
If that's the case, why is he 137th in the 2016 class? Given the fact that we already have a similar player in Mulder, I would risk losing him and wait on Murray.
Never said you were COMPLETELY full of crap. I'm sure you talk to someone in or around the program. I just find it highly unlikely that UK coaches are selling a player on being just a bench player next season. That's just how I feel.
Unless it is Murray, I will somewhat surprised if we actually add anyone else at this stage unless Calipari pursues the Greek big man next month once he is ready to start narrowing his schools and make a commitment.
He's ranked a lot higher in 247 rankings, as well as the 247 composite....61 overall. Meyer said hes a great scorer and handles the ball well, would fit the 3 spot well. I feel like if Cal offered him when he first contacted him, hed be a cat already. Now KU is building a lot of steam
For those of you wringing hands over this, since you tend to praise the recruiting of other coaches except for your own school's coach, Duke picked up a commitment from unranked PF Justin Robinson. He will be on scholarship for Duke next season.
And we're complaining about a 4 star with potential 5 star talent and offensive skill? Jeez.
And we're complaining about a 4 star with potential 5 star talent and offensive skill? Jeez.
He's the son of David Robinson who was accepted as a walk-on then later granted a scholarship.I don't think coach k was out on the recruiting trail working hard to land this kid.
Not really the point. The point is that Coach K accepted a commitment from the kid, and went as far as putting him on scholarship next season despite him being unranked, and very undersized for the position.
I'm still not sure of what your point is? I doubt he'll likely ever be in the rotation at duke and they had some extra scholarships so they gave him one. I assume it was more of a good gesture for his father than anything to do with actual recruiting and needs.
So why can't we offer to a kid that can actually contribute, knowing that we have more than enough scholarships available. Fans get upset about that, while Duke is handing them out to players who may not see a minute. That is my point.
We can. Cal has chosen not to at this point, but he may. And while we have the spots this year, there is no guarantee we will have an abundance of spots next year, when we are in on a LOT of the top players. The sticking point is most likely Murray. I doubt Cal wants to put yet another guard on the roster BEFORE Murray decides. We would have SIX guards if we added Vick, which would make it an awfully crowded roster at the guard position. Of course Murray isn't worried about PT, even if Vick were added, he might not want to join an already crowded group of guards. If that is Cal's thinking, I agree with it. Now if Vick wants to wait and Murray goes elsewhere, I would bet Cal would opt to sign Vick, or maybe not if he thinks we are ok with Matthews and Mulder. Either way, I don't think this is an issue that we as fans can really second guess Cal. He's in the best position to know which way to go here.
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