Tubby Smith bemoans expectations, distractions at Memphis
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Couldn't agree more. Jasper could play. Injuries cost him probably a pro career. Saul always played hard as hell. Good defender. Just not talented enough.
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I had forgotten about him since he wasn't here very long. I think he was injured most of the time he was here.
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Wrong, if you think Draymond Green would have been here in the first place it just shows how delusional you really are. And for your statement about the fans that suck, your post shows just how much some fans do suck with their blind love for Tubby, who almost ruined our program.
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I seriously doubt if Saul could've started for Morehead or Eastern.
Before? Tubby has 144 losses in 10 years since leaving UK. It's mind boggling how people say he's "a winner." The worst part is...he's poisoned THREE PROGRAMS in that time.
If the man had any integrity he would get out of coaching and quit stealing money by being paid for a job he is unwilling to do.
Billy D should of been the Hire instead of Tubby. I still cant figure that one out looking back? What was Pitino and UK administration even thinking. If Billy D was the hire back then I say we would be right there flirting with taking iver UCLA spot all ready or very soon. Never understood that hire at all.
"We were picked to finish 5th and we finished 5th". I guess he earned his money.
I can't count how many "futility" records Tubby had here, but I know they were many. Memphis has not seen anything yet. Just wait until he recruits his "own" players.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Tubby is an extremely nice fellow and is well liked personally, but he is embarrassing as a coach.
I can't count how many "futility" records Tubby had here, but I know they were many. Memphis has not seen anything yet. Just wait until he recruits his "own" players.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Tubby is an extremely nice fellow and is well liked personally, but he is embarrassing as a coach.
$3 million only gets you a coach that molds young kids into fine gentlemen. You have to pay an extra $2 or 3 million to expect wins. Everyone knows that.
With what I hear about the way tubby tips, I'm sure he has a nice nest egg and needs to hang it up.
Fine gentlemen ? Tubbys players had more off court issues than Cals and Pitinos combined.
True Brian , and he deserves to be if you look at the list of coaches already there . Lots of mediocrity. It seems longevity is the main factor . I also think he should get a jersey in the rafters for winning a championship, but after he retires . Of course I thought Pitinos should have come down the day he accepted the Louisville job , to be restored when he was retired .
I wouldn't say longevity is the main factor in this case.
And I was friends with Tubby and Donna.
Agree with the jersey upon retirement as well.
The second part is undoubtedly true.
But the first part of your statement may have some competition.
Speaking for myself & I believe other UK fans as well. What irks a lot of us about Tubby. Is when he was here & it was plain to see that he wasn't a high enough quality coach to be here. And when we the fans spoke out against him. How the local media, guys like Mark Story, Ryan Lemon, & Larry Glover would defend him. Telling us that Tubby was one of the top 5 coaches in college BB, & that UK could never do better than Tubby. Glover on his WVLK radio show would even come up with stupid facts trying to say that Tubby was a better coach than Billy Donavon. This kind of crap is the reason we like to point out what a flop that Tubby has become since he left UK. To Story, Lemon, & Glover. What have you got to say for yourselves now ?
Are you a five star chef? I bet you still know if a meal tastes good or bad though.
I don't think even Tubby haters would argue (nor should they) about his jersey in the rafters. That should be no issue.
It's the HOF stuff, but you're right: some of the people in the HOF is utterly ridiculous
Have ZERO issues with Pitinos jersey going down as well. The man is a scumbag. I'm more embarrassed he coached here than Tubby
Just curious. Is the CLOD using Tubby to sharpen their claws for Calipari if we lose in the NCAA Tourney this year.
I guess you guys don't really realize that in your attempt to piss on Tubby's reputation where all that is landing, huh? Sure as heck isn't sticking to him.
I guess you guys don't really realize that in your attempt to piss on Tubby's reputation where all that is landing, huh? Sure as heck isn't sticking to him.
The candidates were pretty bad back then but Billy had only been at Florida for like a year or so after leaving Marshall.
In reality, Tubby had went to the Sweet 16 three out of the previous four years before coming to Kentucky.
Gillispie was a more idiotic hire than Tubby.
Tubby straight up stopped trying after 2005. He quit. He was like the guy at work who was mentally gone. Just look at his recruiting classes after 2004.
Can't really argue. I'm talking about the 1998 team mainly. I also liked the 2003 team that lost to Marquette. . I guess I'm acknowledging the good seasons.
We did fine in 2003 and 2005 and those were his guys but he always came up short and then we fell off the damn map in 2006 and 2007. We were heading to a dumpster fire and Gillispie was making it even worse. If Tubby doesn't leave or Gillispie doesn't get fired, we were looking at being a has been program.
We had good teams in 2003-2005 but he never could get us back to a final four and we missed out on all of the elite talent during that time so he will be viewed as a disappointment for never getting another final four or landing the cream of the crop.
It's also a fact, the players in 1997 wanted Billy Donovan. It's kind of forgotten in all of this.
There's no attempt to "piss on tubbys rep". There's an attempt to call him what he is by most, and an attempt by a small few of you to rewrite history and mislead about his time here and after. Won't happen.
You have screwed up if you hired Tubby Smith and he didn't win with the players you have in place. He can't recruit the players he needs to win with so you mines well cut him loose now.
The thing that plagued Tubby is thinking that it was he (a black coach) that was against the system... He was in over his head at UK... He wanted to be the underdog, but in doing so, he was destroying UK basketball, and enjoyment...
He and his inside the wall system was mum on everything... Not one secret got outside his wall... He didn't understand that we were not scheming against him... The worse thing of all, he was tight with his money... He refused to give a guard a scholarship, because he would be recruiting against his son...
He could have had better guards than his son, but he chose not too, so he could give his son playing time... Tubby had the chance to add a player on scholarship, but in doing, Tubby would have to pay for his son's tuition... Not Tubby Smith... He placed Saul on full scholarship...
Zip forward to Cal, who has his son on the team, but Cal is paying for the scholarship... This is the difference...
Oh, one more thing, he let the world think that UK was full of racist wanting rid of him... Not true... We gave Tubby every opportunity... I like the guy, but that was shameful that he would leave without so much as defending the fans that had backed him... Leaving the world to draw their own conclusion about UK... Of course, that means that UK will be even darker in the minds of the nation... Almost unforgivable...
He was on the plane going for a new job, before fans knew he was gone... This wasn't about race in any way, but Tubby Smith made it about race... Much like Obama... I was for Obama his first term, I'm now ashamed to say, but I reaped the whirl wind of that choice...
I still want the best for Tubby and thank him for all he did for UK, but I don't respect him like I would, if he had left under different circumstances....
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You're one of my favorite posters on this site so I hope this doesn't make you mad . Practically every defender of Tubbys tenure at UK admit they knew him . That's why I think their judgment is a little clouded . It's impossible for them to be unbiased. I would probably be the same .
That allways boggled my mind why He wasnt the hire. The program would of never had that decade of mediocrity IMO plus I truly believe we would be sitting on 9-11 titles. Plus the BACK YO BACK gator titles might of been ours as well. Yeah I know its speculation but Billy D was way better then Tubby. UF Ran the conference pretty much a solid 8-10 years really. I know Tubby won few SEC and had handful of decent seasons but nothing in comparison to what Billy was doing at UF. If Billy was doing that at UF how much more would he have done at UK. We will never know but I bet he would have atleast 2 titles if Billy D was the coach inbetween Pitino and Cal.
Absolutely and Cal Should of been here tight after Tubby! I blame that on Mitch the Bit-h! That might of cost us a title as well. Who knows who we would of Had to go along with Rose.
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