Tubby gone...
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What a stand up guy you are then. Congratulations for being so evolved. Knuckle dragger here; doesn't change the reality that many of the loudest mouthpieces across the college basketball landscape labeled an entire fan base and state racists. From where I stand, that's disgusting. And as I see now, and a few times since, it doesn't apply anywhere else but here. I take issue with that. I'm glad you don't. Don't know what I would do (or the entire fan base for that matter) without you telling me to settle down.
They made the big mistake when they hired him. Just a total stupid thing to do with his track record. He is laughing at them as he gets to bank another 10 million for a below average performance.
When will they ever learn?
Who exactly called you a racist? Don't be lazy and vaguely say media, let's address these people specifically.
Won't have much to do with it but doesn't hurt. Simply if they are morons and hire Penny. Wiseman ain't going there . Cal and Wiseman and especially Wiseman's Mom are too tight. I am not going to lose a single moment of sleep over that.
P.S. It was extremely stupid to fire Tubby he was doing a good job there.
If they hire Penny, I'm assuming Wiseman is going too. Can't see why he would take that job if he didn't have JW in his pocket.
Because he will be paid several million a year instead of coaching high school?
I still find it hard fathom a college the level of Memphis would hire a coach with so little experience their head coach ( sure as an assistant) but even so I don't think this train of thought is based in much fact. Wiseman ( and most big time players) aren't going to risk their brand playing for an un proven coach at a smaller school. Now I do think alot of lesser Memphis kids would flock to play for him for sure. Also Cal and Wiseman are tighter then any recruit maybe ever in Cal's tenure. There has never been more of a lock for UK in Cal's time.
If they give him several million a year, without a guarantee of Wiseman, they are morons.
Right? It makes a ton of sense from Penny's point of view but zero from the Memphis side. Are they that desperate? If they think that will get them Wiseman they are crazy but Memphis fans do overestimate themselves routinely.
I’m not disagreeing with you. But it is a no brainer for Penny to take the cash.
The most accurate post Imo is the guy is the best x and o coach we've had in over twenty years. Downfall was he stated many times he hated recruiting and the AAU circuit.....and it ended up showing huge.
One of 2 coaches to take 5 different programs to the NCAA tournament.
Took Minnesota to 3 NCAA tournaments, when their entire program history prior to Tubby only boasted 4 TOTAL.
Took Texas Tech from a dumpster fire to NCAA tournament team, and basically set up the run they are on this year (3 seed).
Has won 600 games, and an all time win percentage of over 65% (CRAZY).
Has won 7 conference Coach of the Year awards in 3 different conferences.
3 time National Coach of the Year.
Has coached 19 players that went on to play in the NBA.
The man is going to be in the Hall of Fame when he's retired, and people on here act like he's a scrub coach.
The man can coach his NUTS off, whether you want to admit it or not.
Coach his nuts off...please. 65% winning percentage isn’t “coaching his nuts off”.
He’s an above average coach...period. Nothing more Donna
Look, I’m not a tubby hater or lover.
When people say he’s the worst, I think it’s silly hyperbole, like when people say “he can coach his nuts off”.
Dude is an above average coach that was hungry at Tulsa and Georgia,had five really good years at Kentucky and the rest of his career has been eh.
Just be honest
When people say he’s the worst, I think it’s silly hyperbole, like when people say “he can coach his nuts off”.
Dude is an above average coach that was hungry at Tulsa and Georgia,had five really good years at Kentucky and the rest of his career has been eh.
Just be honest
Numerous comments from recruits. Rush said that he felt like Tubby wasn't interested. The Pattersons commented on how much harder Billy recruited their son.
One sports writer (Decourcy?) wrote an article back around 2002 or so and said that Tubby's idea of recruiting was to show up in a UK sweatshirt and wait for recruits to come to him. Matt Jones documented some of the unbelievable lapses in recruiting of players like Stewart and Marshal Moses.
And, someone posted a quote from Saul Smith about the staff's recruiting philosophy of offering a scholarship and if the kid doesn't commit, they move to the next kid. Really? That is recruiting! That is just plain lazy!!!!
Saul Smith's word of wisdom on recruiting....
"Recruiting, to me, is the lifeblood of a program. But the great thing about working for a guy like Coach Smith is if a player is not interested or kind of puts us to the side, we don't even worry about it. We just move on to the next kid. He's won with less players; he's won with great players. So when a kid struggles to figure out what he wants to do, we're like, 'Look, you've got a scholarship offer. We're willing to take you if you really want to come. We're letting you know we've got two or three other kids in mind.' And if they say, 'Coach, I'm gonna wait,' I'm like, 'Well, it's been great. Let us know if we can do something for you,' and we'll just go sign the other kid. We don't have time for that."
http://archive.commercialappeal.com...ing-from-mistakes-38a08c6f-7d-388587971.html/
"Recruiting, to me, is the lifeblood of a program. But the great thing about working for a guy like Coach Smith is if a player is not interested or kind of puts us to the side, we don't even worry about it. We just move on to the next kid. He's won with less players; he's won with great players. So when a kid struggles to figure out what he wants to do, we're like, 'Look, you've got a scholarship offer. We're willing to take you if you really want to come. We're letting you know we've got two or three other kids in mind.' And if they say, 'Coach, I'm gonna wait,' I'm like, 'Well, it's been great. Let us know if we can do something for you,' and we'll just go sign the other kid. We don't have time for that."
http://archive.commercialappeal.com...ing-from-mistakes-38a08c6f-7d-388587971.html/
EXACTLY. Anyone who can't see that has a pretty obvious agenda for slamming him....just isn't man enough to own up to it.
Wow! I imagine they averaged more than that years ago at the old Mid-South Coliseum.
OTS is an excellent coach and better person. He is an outstanding in game bench coach, one of the very bet. He had some great recruiting classes at UK but gradually failed miserably as a recruiter. His "coaching style" is no different from Tony Bennett's at UVA. They boyth use the ball line defense and play a control offensive game.. The difference is that Bennett wins against very formidable opposition , recruits intelligent four year players and fields experienced well drilled units committed to a specific style in the same way that Princeton was under Pete Carrill and UT was under Ray Mears Of course Mears once had Bernie and Ernie.
Penny is a great guy and very likeable. But he's placed ZERO elite kids in the league.
When compared against Cal's resume of bigs, and getting them ready, the smart money's on Cal.
I actually feel like Wiseman is a Cat by September.
When compared against Cal's resume of bigs, and getting them ready, the smart money's on Cal.
I actually feel like Wiseman is a Cat by September.
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