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Travis Perry time

I just hope we're not putting too high of expectations on Perry, just because of what we experienced with Sheppard.

Sheppard was really 1 in a million in some regards. Drafted 3rd after just one season and wasn't even a concensus top25 guy. It's unheard of. It's very likely that Perry just isn't going to be ready to contribute this early.
 
I just hope we're not putting too high of expectations on Perry, just because of what we experienced with Sheppard.

Sheppard was really 1 in a million in some regards. Drafted 3rd after just one season and wasn't even a concensus top25 guy. It's unheard of. It's very likely that Perry just isn't going to be ready to contribute this early.
Of course not. You can’t have too high of expectations. Travis Perry poops ice cream and has a 99 rating in every metric. Our fans know this for sure. Now, you may say “Wait, we don’t see practice and coach has been playing him as third string point guard largely because he does see practice and has a good handle on wheeze each player is in their progression” but that’s silly talk. Having an internet username and watching KHSAA basketball games once or twice trumps being the head coach. You may say that the guys ahead of Perry are last year guys with proven records of success at this level, but come on, Kerr Kriisa isn’t really a Kentucky Wildcat. I mean, he is, but he wasn’t born here so when he struggles we just throw him away. Perry is the one this is really for —- you just don’t get it. Neither does Pope. Perry needs to play now. Waaaaa waaaa waaaa
 
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Title of this thread is “Travis Perry Time”. I’ll tell you what. It is Travis Perry time. It’s time for Travis Perry to bust his ass every day in practice to force Pope to play him, just like he told Cal he was going to. It’s time for Travis Perry to be humble and grow, soaking up every concept in every practice, working on building the habits that will make him successful for years to come. It is time for Travis Perry to play for the name on the front of the jersey not the one on the back. It is time for Perry to earn those minutes so that when it is his time, your eyes and the numbers won’t lie — he will be ready.
 
I just hope we're not putting too high of expectations on Perry, just because of what we experienced with Sheppard.

Sheppard was really 1 in a million in some regards. Drafted 3rd after just one season and wasn't even a concensus top25 guy. It's unheard of. It's very likely that Perry just isn't going to be ready to contribute this early.
I have high expectations for Perry. Why should I not ? Just askin' ...
Go 'Cats ! ! !
 
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Based on what I've seen, so far, Perry is a better ball-handler and I THINK (not sure) is a better defender.
I know Perry is tough, has good instincts, quick hands and is a savvy player. Yes, he is shorter than Kriisa.
Of course, I have not been at practices and I do not know if my impressions are accurate.
If they played one-on-one, I wonder who would win, especially if threes were not part of the scoring and it was all inside the arc.
If Kriisa continues to struggle, especially in situations where Butler is injured or in foul trouble, Pope may be forced to give Perry time to see how he performs against the better teams. We'll see ...
Travis would absolutely give Kerr the business in a one on one and he's a better distributor. I'm telling yall he is more ready than people think. He isn't superbly quick but he has quick hands and good timing on everything he does much like Reed.( not saying he is Reed)
 
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If Perry is the choice behind Kerr, he needs to be putting out feelers for a new home next year. He is currently being recruited over and if he can't beat out Kerr he will never play meaningful minutes here. Too good of an offensive talent to waste his time on the pine. Jmo, but Kerr has not shown me much.
Jasper will start at one next year but Perry will be one of our guards who plays a lot whether at the one or the two. He is good.
 
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If Perry is the choice behind Kerr, he needs to be putting out feelers for a new home next year. He is currently being recruited over and if he can't beat out Kerr he will never play meaningful minutes here. Too good of an offensive talent to waste his time on the pine. Jmo, but Kerr has not shown me much.
Reading your post:

It reads like you feel that Mark Pope just refuses to play Perry, and Perry will never get minutes because of Pope. I think Pope is a better talent evaluator than you or I. I think Pope sees them EVERY SINGLE DAY in practice, and we do not. And I think that Pope feels Kriisa is more ready for minutes vs P5 teams than Perry.

I think some people have PTSD from Calipari playing his 5 stars no matter what.

Now as far as transferring, I guess that depends on a few things.

1. Is Travis Perry, as a freshmen, as good as he will ever be? Or can he get better?

2. Is Travis Perry willing to compete and earn minutes, or is he afraid to do that--and needs to be somewhere where minutes can just be given to him?

Some of you guys act like these kids are owed minutes. This isn't little league where each kid gets to play a couple of innings so their feelings aren't hurt. This is KENTUCKY basketball. We're supposed to be the greatest program/tradition in college basketball. We didn't get here by just giving minutes to every kid from the state of KY without them earning it in practice.
 
If Perry is the choice behind Kerr, he needs to be putting out feelers for a new home next year. He is currently being recruited over and if he can't beat out Kerr he will never play meaningful minutes here. Too good of an offensive talent to waste his time on the pine. Jmo, but Kerr has not shown me much.

Reading your post:

It reads like you feel that Mark Pope just refuses to play Perry, and Perry will never get minutes because of Pope. I think Pope is a better talent evaluator than you or I. I think Pope sees them EVERY SINGLE DAY in practice, and we do not. And I think that Pope feels Kriisa is more ready for minutes vs P5 teams than Perry.

I think some people have PTSD from Calipari playing his 5 stars no matter what.

Now as far as transferring, I guess that depends on a few things.

1. Is Travis Perry, as a freshmen, as good as he will ever be? Or can he get better?

2. Is Travis Perry willing to compete and earn minutes, or is he afraid to do that--and needs to be somewhere where minutes can just be given to him?

Some of you guys act like these kids are owed minutes. This isn't little league where each kid gets to play a couple of innings so their feelings aren't hurt. This is KENTUCKY basketball. We're supposed to be the greatest program/tradition in college basketball. We didn't get here by just giving minutes to every kid from the state of KY without them earning it in practice.
Again, I ask. Objectively read what this first poster said here and ask yourself if that sounds like a true blue Kentucky fan. People have gotten so angry at me for saying it but that is NOT fan behavior. People are treating Kerr and other players like they are lesser than Wildcats in favor of their “favorites” just because they played high school here and it is sickening. Instead of being angry about people for telling the truth, maybe some people should open their eyes to see you have a lot of fake fans and trolls with agendas on this website who put individual players above the program.
 
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Travis would absolutely give Kerr the business in a one on one and he's a better distributor. I'm telling yall he is more ready than people think. He isn't superbly quick but he has quick hands and good timing on everything he does much like Reed.( not saying he is Reed)
I think you're confusing high school Travis Perry with college Travis Perry. Kerr has four years, 107 games, 93 starts of playing in Big-12, Pac-12, and SEC basketball. It's not the second region in Kentucky.
 
Let’s just call it what it is. For some of us, we don’t really care that much about you if you aren’t from the state of Kentucky. Sad.
 
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Travis would absolutely give Kerr the business in a one on one and he's a better distributor. I'm telling yall he is more ready than people think. He isn't superbly quick but he has quick hands and good timing on everything he does much like Reed.( not saying he is Reed)
I'm not sure he's a better distributor, as I see him more of an off-guard than a true point guard.
As I've mentioned here before, I saw Perry play three (3) times last year and was very impressed with everything about him.
I was not sure whether he could play high-level D1 basketball, but not because he did not have solid basketball knowledge and skills. My uncertainty was strictly based on his size, quickness, footspeed and overall athleticism.
As of right now, I am still unsure about how effective he can be, but I'm pulling hard for him. I really like the way he plays.
If Sparks, Ford, Ulis, etc ... as smaller players, could be bigtime contributors, I'm still thinking Perry might be able to do the same. Whenever he gets a chance to play meaningful minutes, I sure hope he is successful.
We'll have to wait and see what happens ...
 
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As I've mentioned here before, I saw Perry play three (3) times last year and was very impressed with everything about him.
I was not sure whether he could play high-level D1 basketball, but not because he did not have solid basketball knowledge and skills. My uncertainty was strictly based on his size, quickness, footspeed and overall athleticism.
As of right now, I am still unsure about how effective he can be, but I'm pulling hard for him. I really like the way he plays.
If Sparks, Ford, Ulis, etc ... as smaller players, could be bigtime contributors, I'm still thinking Perry might be able to do the same. Whenever he gets a chance to play meaningful minutes, I sure hope he is successful.
We'll have to wait and see what happens ...
He is a Freshman and also the all time leading scorer in UK HS basketball history on a loaded veteran UK team.
Before he is done at UK he will be a star.
 
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I think you're confusing high school Travis Perry with college Travis Perry. Kerr has four years, 107 games, 93 starts of playing in Big-12, Pac-12, and SEC basketball. It's not the second region in Kentucky.
That's all nice and all but Perry will have more accolades by the time it is said and done book it. ✔️
 
He is a Freshman and also the all time leading scorer in UK HS basketball history on a loaded veteran UK team.
Before he is done at UK he will be a star.
I understand the sentiment, of course, and am really pulling hard for him, but being the all-time leading scorer in KY high school history is a nice credential ... it is certainly no guarantee of success at the highest level of college basketball. We have to be totally honest and realistic about that. No better example of that is Ervin Stepp. He was a prolific (complete understatement) scorer in high school, averaging 47 points (Junior) and 54 points (Senior - leading the nation), but could not bring that scoring prowess to the collegiate level. There is simply a world of difference between high school and college ... Stepp played three (3) years at EKU and averaged 4.6 points for his career there. He played his Senior year of college at Alice Lloyd College, once again joining his brother, Joe Alan, who was head coach, and playing alongside his brother, Jimmy Stepp.

"It was 40 years ago when Mr. Kentucky Basketball 1980, Ervin Stepp from Phelps High School scored 75 points in one game, and this was before the 3-point shot was introduced to high school basketball. Stepp is the only player in the history of Kentucky high school basketball to average more than 50 points a game for an entire season. He also tops the record field goal attempts in one season with 943, and has the top two records for field goals made with 545 in 1980 and 478 in 1979. In fact, you can find Ervin Stepp’s name 37 times in the KHSAA’s Boys Basketball Record Book."

 
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Let’s just call it what it is. For some of us, we don’t really care that much about you if you aren’t from the state of Kentucky. Sad.

I couldn't care less if all the players are from Indiana and TN as long as we win national titles and make final fours.

I dont give a crap about high school basketball so do not have the favoritism some of our fans do for the local players.

Last I checked they are all KY kids once they put on the UK Wildcats uniform anyways. Right? Guess i just don't understand the bizarre logic of a portion of our fanbase.
 
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Agreed ... unless he's had a major shutdown of his skill set, he simply HAS to be able to play much better than he has been, so far. Today would be the best time to step up and prove it. We certainly need him to ...
Even against the really weak teams the drop off from Kerr to Perry was blatant. Heck the difference between Kerr and Chandler is obvious. Perry’s time will come in a couple years but it’s not right now with this team. I would like to see him, Noah, & Chandler get some run with the actual rotation guys against those cupcakes when we’re up 25+ points to get some experience.
 
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I’m willing to give Kriisa a longer leash. But if he doesn’t show improvement in the next couple games it’s time to try Perry at the backup 1 spot. I know he’s a better shooter, i’d guess he’s less turnover prone, defense can’t really be any worse. We can’t afford to go into SEC play with that kind of liability from the backup point.
 
I’m willing to give Kriisa a longer leash. But if he doesn’t show improvement in the next couple games it’s time to try Perry at the backup 1 spot. I know he’s a better shooter, i’d guess he’s less turnover prone, defense can’t really be any worse. We can’t afford to go into SEC play with that kind of liability from the backup point.

I shudder at the thought of trotting Perry out there against sec teams. Gonna be super ugly. Pope is smarter than us so doubt that happens.
 
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I shudder at the thought of trotting Perry out there against sec teams. Gonna be super ugly. Pope is smarter than us so doubt that happens.
Clear as day if you aren’t wrapped up in your presuppositions and blatant bias that Perry isn’t ready just yet. Let Pope cook
 
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Title of this thread is “Travis Perry Time”. I’ll tell you what. It is Travis Perry time. It’s time for Travis Perry to bust his ass every day in practice to force Pope to play him, just like he told Cal he was going to. It’s time for Travis Perry to be humble and grow, soaking up every concept in every practice, working on building the habits that will make him successful for years to come. It is time for Travis Perry to play for the name on the front of the jersey not the one on the back. It is time for Perry to earn those minutes so that when it is his time, your eyes and the numbers won’t lie — he will be ready.
Your thread suggests he isnt already doing that? From everything the coaches and players have said, he is working his ass off everyday and is either the first one or two to practice everyday working his ass off and the last one to leave everyday. If there is a kid on that bench who will play for the name on the front and not on the back, its him. You should know what you're talking about instead of posting non sense that you have no clue about what you're talking about!!
 
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Your thread suggests he isnt already doing that? From everything the coaches and players have said, he is working his ass off everyday and is either the first one or two to practice everyday working his ass off and the last one to leave everyday. If there is a kid on that bench who will play for the name on the front and not on the back, its him. You should know what you're talking about instead of posting non sense that you have no clue about what you're talking about!!
Has the coach indicated he is ready by moving him up in the rotation? If not, why not?
 
You have no idea of that. lol

Get mad at the coach if you think he is screwing over Perry. You have a lot of facts except the actual facts. See them for yourself. Glad being from Kentucky matters more than the program to you all. Some fans.

See the metrics above yourself.

Again, I ask. Why is Pope not playing Perry if he is better than the guys ahead of him?
 
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Get mad at the coach if you think he is screwing over Perry. You have a lot of facts except the actual facts. See them for yourself. Glad being from Kentucky matters more than the program to you all. Some fans.

See the metrics above yourself.

Again, I ask. Why is Pope not playing Perry if he is better than the guys ahead of him?
I’m not mad at Pope at all
and never said he’s screwing over Perry. I said i’m willing to give Kriisa a little longer leash. I think Popes plan was to give the young guys time to acclimate because he has a lot of vets. That’s a luxury you have when you’re winning games. Lose 2 or 3 in a row and that luxury disappears. If playing Kriisa starts consistently costing us games, you can bet your ass Pope will look for an alternative.
 
I’m not mad at Pope at all
and never said he’s screwing over Perry. I said i’m willing to give Kriisa a little longer leash. I think Popes plan was to give the young guys time to acclimate because he has a lot of vets. That’s a luxury you have when you’re winning games. Lose 2 or 3 in a row and that luxury disappears. If playing Kriisa starts consistently costing us games, you can bet your ass Pope will look for an alternative.
I have no problem with anything your said on this one.
 
Uglier than trotting out the Kriisa we’ve seen so far?

From what I've seen of Perry at the college level, he has a long way to go. He hasn't looked good in limited minutes against the dog crap cupcakes. Playing him and the other frosh cost us 100 points against DL.

Kriisa has proven he can be a solid contributor. A few bad games here and there do not change that.

I don't care about what either did in high school. Neither does Pope and he's the coach.
 
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Kenpom O efficiency- Bottom 5
Kerr- 105
Chandler- 103
Amari- 102
Perry- 97
Noah- 50

Makes a difference given the timing (mop up minutes) also. Probably also makes a difference only getting a few minutes every once in a while.
 
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Kenpom O efficiency- Bottom 5
Kerr- 105
Chandler- 103
Amari- 102
Perry- 97
Noah- 50

Makes a difference given the timing (mop up minutes) also. Probably also makes a difference only getting a few minutes every once in a while.
Perry plays against significantly worse competition and still has a lower offensive rating. And again, if Perry is better, you tell me why you think he isn’t above Kerr in the rotation. Go ahead and say what you really think.
 
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