Towles had no protection
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Looked like he threw him out of bounds from my seat and angle. Johnson was trying to keep a foot inbounds while stretching out of bounds...was a safe throw, wasn't a great one IMO.
Leach ang maggard just talked about the ball being overthrown. I could be wrong...not afraid to admit it if i am. Will rewatch this eve.
If you go back and watch the last 8 games towles played you will see he is very very very inconsistent.... Slow going thru his reads,stares down wr,over throws,under throws, bad pocket awareness etc..
What I see is there should be improvement from game 6 of towles career and game 11-13 of his career with a spring practice in there.. .
Barker whenever he starts playing will need to go thru some of the same growing pains.but if stoops isn't careful he will go with towles and not make it to a bowl game and then switch qbs and have to start over with barker which could get his seat warm...My point is if this is the best that we get from towles,we might as well take the lumps while getting barker ready...you might say we aren't at that point yet,well OK;but we are getting there really fast.another game or two and the wins get really slim with qb play like the last 3 games... We could very easily be 0-3 right now...I think MOST opinions are based on the last three Games as a whole...I guess ull was better as well!!!
Its Time to put a few w in the schedule if we want a bowl an if this continue's we will not make it then what???
P.S.our oline has never been great.but there comes a time you have to win with what you have..that time is now..this year..
What I see is there should be improvement from game 6 of towles career and game 11-13 of his career with a spring practice in there.. .
Barker whenever he starts playing will need to go thru some of the same growing pains.but if stoops isn't careful he will go with towles and not make it to a bowl game and then switch qbs and have to start over with barker which could get his seat warm...My point is if this is the best that we get from towles,we might as well take the lumps while getting barker ready...you might say we aren't at that point yet,well OK;but we are getting there really fast.another game or two and the wins get really slim with qb play like the last 3 games... We could very easily be 0-3 right now...I think MOST opinions are based on the last three Games as a whole...I guess ull was better as well!!!
Its Time to put a few w in the schedule if we want a bowl an if this continue's we will not make it then what???
P.S.our oline has never been great.but there comes a time you have to win with what you have..that time is now..this year..
And by the way..this is the best WR-RB combination I ever remember having at ky.. Other qbs never had a freak like baker bone Johnson badet timmons boom horton... They might have one or two but not this many...I feel like this talent will be wasted...so while our line isn't bama good they are better than a lot of UK lines of the past...our wr are better than any wr core I watched this weekend except maybe ole miss..but then ole miss had a qb that got them the ball...these wr will be gone in 2 years..let's put some wins up so we can take the next step..if we have to be great at every position so our qb can have wide open wr then it will never happen.. That never happens in the sec...
But did Maggard play football and does he have a brain , lol .
What an idiot statement by blue decade . One of my best friends was one of the "thin thirty" and coached football for 30 years and he was saying last year that Towles didn't have it as a quarterback . He says , all the measurables none of the intangibles , pretty fast but not quick , a thrower but not a passer . I don't know if Barker is better . I do know that Steve Spurrier and Urban Myer offered Barker a scholarship and neither offered Towles .
Stoops had said several times that the competition was legit in practice and barker really preform's once the lights are turned on..I believe it might be the opposite for towles... When you look back at some of the recruiting camps,barker really delivered under pressure with scouts watching...Now that doesn't say it will translate to the football field, but if towles looses the mizz game then it might be time to move on....
-may get rid of a *little* chaff...however there is still plenty of wheat: baker td drop, 6 sacks etc.
-not giving pt a complete pass. But blaming everything on QB play is myopic...and distracts from the most important problem o-line play.
-on to Mizzou.
-not giving pt a complete pass. But blaming everything on QB play is myopic...and distracts from the most important problem o-line play.
-on to Mizzou.
"Barker would struggle behind a bad offensive line as much or more than Towles. "
There is your actual quote.
Nobody knows what Barker could have done. For all you know, he might have come in and thrown for 300+ yards.
Also i'm not making anything up. Everything i stated were facts that you can't dispute. Hence the reason that you now want to take your ball and go home.
I don't think anyone is blaming everything on the QB, but Towles has been pretty mediocre this season. He doesn't seem like a good fit for an "Air Raid" style of offense.
But here's the thing---They did use different OL during the game. They did try and find a winning combination with the OL. They weren't concerned about their "fragile confidence"
Towles could have an NFL line in front of him and it wouldnt matter. He's not an accurate passer at all. How many times have we seen him throw the ball 7 feet over a receivers head or at his feet just due to the slightest of pressure? Stop being a pansy , make the throw , take the hit and bounce up like you want some more sir.
I didnt say they werent beaten. I said Towles was the cause of 3 to 4 of the sacks saturday. Those are two totally different, consistent statements. The OL struggled. But their QB couldve helped them. He didnt.
Exactly. Good throw in that it was safe. But not a great throw in that it would have taken an incredible catch to pull it in.
The offensive line got mauled all night. Between that and the drops it wouldn't have mattered who was the QB.
They are good, but I'll go with Johnson/Burton/little any day. I still get pissed thinking about the 07 team. Had we been in this years SEC with the 07 team, it could've ended in a BCS bowl.
What about all the times he had time and still could hit a 10 yard moving target?
Agree. Just as aside....Little finished with over 4000 total yards. FOUR THOUSAND. Doubt any current player comes anywhere near that.
They were good I agree, but they didn't have this talent top to bottom what this team does!!
If you take the talent on the oline back then and compare it with today,then you will say that this staff better get to work!!!! Bottom line you can not use lack of talent to make excuses for what had taken place in the uf an second half of ull/USC games... If you wait til we match talent with those teams (upper sec)it will never happen..by the time you sign enough classes to get to there level recruits/media/fan already gave up on you as a staff...stoops needs to win THIS year an get to a bowl game or it will start getting very difficult to recruit ect!!! There comes a time to win with what you have and IMO that time for stoops is this year... You will see mizz dline will bring the same pressure that Florida did. If they loose then they will have to pull a upset,cause IMO USC/mizz/vandy are not very good this year Florida is not much better.. The east was wide open and looks like we will make excuses and fumble the opportunity away...
Plus, although he was a tight end , Tamme being the threat over the middle opened things up for those guys.
This offence beats that team with there depth at the skill position... That them got banged up after playing a Meyer fl team national champ LSU team,they didn't have the talented depth to keep winning against miss st Tenn ect or that would have been very very special..after Johnson Burton,tamme,little there was a drop off..just my opinion...
I also think this oline has more talent, there just not well coached.. It comes down to technique...I believe coach Higgins was a great teacher but horrible recruiter..I really question our oline coach... They don't have exceptional talent but are better than they have played so far.
I also think this oline has more talent, there just not well coached.. It comes down to technique...I believe coach Higgins was a great teacher but horrible recruiter..I really question our oline coach... They don't have exceptional talent but are better than they have played so far.
Naw, can't agree there. The 07 team had capable receivers (NFL receivers). We also had guys like Dickey Lyons that were 4th and 5th option. This team isn't close to that. That team also has one of the best qb's we've ever seen in Blue. A few of Our linebackers could have started for Alabama for Florida.
Although they weren't super deep, they were as deep as any UK team is going to get nowadays.
07 UK beats 15 UK by a large, large margin. Probably 3 or more touchdowns depending on how awful Patty throws.
You may be correct, but it goes a long ways in getting there. Its good that he has those attributes, because you can forget about it if you don't have them.
He has a lot more going for him than those 3 things you mentioned, that is why he will continue to be the starting QB in my opinion.
That's fine, but some of these posters need to stop with the "NFL" qb nonsense. The NFL would laugh at Towles. His arm isn't close to practice squad for the Jaguars, and I'm not bashing, I mean that.
Don't disagree that they beat this team,but the talent is here is my point..now the coaching will determine the outcome for the most part..
Yes Johnson an tamme made the NFL little spent a few years as well...IMO baker bone Johnson badet have as much talent. boom is better than any running back on that team..Horton is better than any second string back on that team..jury is still out on Conrad.. Timmons has the talent of lions but for some reason isn't showing it! Is it on timmons? Or the coaching staff? There are more positions you could ask that question..
Again ull and USC don't have better talent on defense then our offense! So there is a problem of not playing up to your capability... Is that being young/or on the players/or the coaching staff..I think the question should be asked by our staff..
Yes Johnson an tamme made the NFL little spent a few years as well...IMO baker bone Johnson badet have as much talent. boom is better than any running back on that team..Horton is better than any second string back on that team..jury is still out on Conrad.. Timmons has the talent of lions but for some reason isn't showing it! Is it on timmons? Or the coaching staff? There are more positions you could ask that question..
Again ull and USC don't have better talent on defense then our offense! So there is a problem of not playing up to your capability... Is that being young/or on the players/or the coaching staff..I think the question should be asked by our staff..
I hear ya. I definitely think Boom is more talented than little, but I don't think he's as smart as little running the ball yet (will be). And you are right this team has some nasty talent at receiver.
I'm hella biased toward the 07 team. The ultimate "what could have been".
I also agree our coaching is pretty bad right now and lots of this will come down to stoops cleaning up his game management and playing the right guys.
IMO of course. (For Brian.)
That team was very talented in top 3 or 4 receivers, who were upperclassmen. This one doesnt have the talent at the top, but it has 8 or so very talented WR's and theyre all young. By the time its over, Dorian Baker may be the best NFL WR prospect to ever play for UK.
