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I clicked, and I disagree............the most rewarding? Maybe.
The only reason UNC is on there is because you can deny, deny, and you are made of Teflon.
Louisville has to be the only job in the country where you can be 1-7 against your 'rival' and continue to get praise and raises.
The only reason UNC is on there is because you can deny, deny, and you are made of Teflon.
Louisville has to be the only job in the country where you can be 1-7 against your 'rival' and continue to get praise and raises.
I'll take one for the team.
1. Kentucky
2. Duke
3. UNC
On Kentucky: "Fan base is unwavering. They're consistent. Kentucky owns the state in terms of the fan base. They travel well, are willing to put in any amount of money. There's a blank check for those guys to do what they need to do dot maintain a level of greatness."
• On Duke: "I think it's a great job because it's such an iconic brand. But I sure wouldn't want to be the man who follows Coach K. That's an impossible situation."
• On North Carolina: "UNC could get five-star recruits no matter who the coach is. MJ played there. The tradition is great. Dean won championships. Roy has won championships. And I don't mean this in a bad way, but even Matt Doherty signed a top-ranked recruiting class there. Almost anybody could win big there. To me that's the best job in the country."
1. Kentucky
2. Duke
3. UNC
On Kentucky: "Fan base is unwavering. They're consistent. Kentucky owns the state in terms of the fan base. They travel well, are willing to put in any amount of money. There's a blank check for those guys to do what they need to do dot maintain a level of greatness."
• On Duke: "I think it's a great job because it's such an iconic brand. But I sure wouldn't want to be the man who follows Coach K. That's an impossible situation."
• On North Carolina: "UNC could get five-star recruits no matter who the coach is. MJ played there. The tradition is great. Dean won championships. Roy has won championships. And I don't mean this in a bad way, but even Matt Doherty signed a top-ranked recruiting class there. Almost anybody could win big there. To me that's the best job in the country."
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On North Carolina: "UNC could get five-star recruits no matter who the coach is. MJ played there
True, but right now as of 8/26/2015, getting those five stars has been something of a chore for Roy. He's the one who said he's having a hard time even getting them on campus. I think the whole MJ thing isn't as big a deal as it once was as we get further and further away from his playing days. (think about it, kids entering College now were born in 1996 or 1997) The scandal has obviously hurt their recruiting but I also think there are underlying concerns out there that player development, once a known strength of the program isn't what it once was in Chapel Hill. The last three early entries they had were all juniors and even then Roy tried his best to get them to stay for their senior year. (Bullock, McAdoo, Tokoto)
True, but right now as of 8/26/2015, getting those five stars has been something of a chore for Roy. He's the one who said he's having a hard time even getting them on campus. I think the whole MJ thing isn't as big a deal as it once was as we get further and further away from his playing days. (think about it, kids entering College now were born in 1996 or 1997) The scandal has obviously hurt their recruiting but I also think there are underlying concerns out there that player development, once a known strength of the program isn't what it once was in Chapel Hill. The last three early entries they had were all juniors and even then Roy tried his best to get them to stay for their senior year. (Bullock, McAdoo, Tokoto)
Been awhile since they had an NBA star. I guess Lawson is the closest and before that it was Vince Carter.
Plus, recruiting is a sales grind. You have to schmooze and eat some ish. It's part of the job. Roy has gotten to the point of being like Tubby or Gary Williams where he thinks he's above it. Well, fine, but he's seeing the results. It would piss me off if I were a UNC Fan and John Wall- a really good kid, absolute stud and right in your own backyard- went to UK and Roy wasn't even in the game because he was too proud to swallow his pride with Brian Clifton.
I think the UNC and MJ point is becoming moot. They've lived off that success for as long as they could, and no one can blame them for it. But as others have said we got kids coming up who never saw MJ play in his prime. I just feel old typing that.
I think UK is overtaking that allure that UNC had with MJ. That's why Cal getting so many players to the league is beneficial to UK in the long run. We have a generation of kids who will be growing up watching Wall, Davis, Towns, etc. Kids like to follow in the footsteps of their idols. So even when Cal is gone, UK can still pimp out the amount of superstars it has in the league, just like UNC use to do.
I think UK is overtaking that allure that UNC had with MJ. That's why Cal getting so many players to the league is beneficial to UK in the long run. We have a generation of kids who will be growing up watching Wall, Davis, Towns, etc. Kids like to follow in the footsteps of their idols. So even when Cal is gone, UK can still pimp out the amount of superstars it has in the league, just like UNC use to do.
Their NBA stars are fading, guys have gotten older and the reality is that UNC is just not sending guys to the pros at a rate equal to Duke, Kentucky and Kansas right now. They've not had an OAD guy since Brendan Wright in 2007 and their guys are staying 3-4 years there now.
But in the case of Roy I don't think it's for a lack of effort, I think he's been working he's just not closing the deal and I think the uncertainty of the scandal is having a negative recruiting impact and Roy just looks stale right now. He looks worn out and weary eyed.
I think it's funny that in a few quotes, some of these idiot coaches mention how great the tradition at Kansas is and how great the tradition at North Carolina (UNCheat) is. But all the while, not a word is mentioned about Kentucky's grand tradition. Hey, ESPN, CBS, etc... Kentucky's tradition is ONLY the best in the history of college basketball. Did they miss that? I don't think so. But why bother with talking about Kentucky's tradition anyway, right? After, it may not be OK with your CEO or your agenda.
Kentucky trumps all of these schools in overall tradition by a long shot, be it Kansas, UNCheat, or Duke. Just for the record.
Kentucky trumps all of these schools in overall tradition by a long shot, be it Kansas, UNCheat, or Duke. Just for the record.
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Sign you're a paranoid homer idiot:
You think ESPN- which gives UK more coverage than anyone and features our coach more than any other coach- is anti-UK.
You think ESPN- which gives UK more coverage than anyone and features our coach more than any other coach- is anti-UK.
True, but you can bet that they drive the overall engine of the national media. I guess I should have put my post in context, as in there exists a weird conspiracy against Kentucky. I truly believe that, and ESPN is the leader. Sorry for things out of context.
You know I'm not an idiot on this. And neither are you. You have said on this very forum that ESPN is in bed with UNCheat over and over.
Kids haven't seen MJ in his prime in quite a while.
To be old enough to remember it, they would have had to have been born in 91 or 92 at the latest, the kids being recruited now were born in 98 and 99 and 2000, which is absolutely crazy.
These kids won't even remember Jordan playing for the Wizards.
It's beyond moot at this point, yet you would think he's got 3 years of eligibility left if you take a visit to THR.
I guarantee there are faculty members at every institution, including Kentucky who see athletics as the great Satan of a University. While it may seem like blasphemy to all of us on this forum, the reality is that not everyone likes sports.
As a school, I have a lot of respect for Duke and I also know that getting a degree in 2 1/2 years at an elite school is an absolute joke, especially if the person getting it is playing D-1 bball. I agree with the prof!
That's rich, because I see the garbage those same faculty are brainswashing our young adults to be far, far more damaging than any sport will ever be.
oh how I long for hip hip literature and anarchy!
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Who is getting 2.5 year degrees? I'd like specific player names who have recently played.
Top 4 are pretty obvious. There are 4 elite, glamour schools - UK, UNC, Duke, KU. That's the list. I used to include UCLA and IU, but they simply no longer can compare to the other 4. So I suspect the list of best jobs ought to look the same.....
The standards for Duke athletes isn't close to the standards of he students, but in fairness, most aren't. Duke gets highlighted here based on their academic standing of excellence. An athlete at Duke probably does less than a Memphis grad half the time.
On the Article, I'm not sold on Duke for the future. I'm sold they will be a great program, but there's too many factors at play after K hangs it up. I tell all my Duke friends over and over, UK has won chanpionships with 5 (FIVE) different coaches, one of them basically won as many as K. When Duke comes close to that, or even has multiple coaches win a championship, we can discuss. As of now, they have a top 3 program.
Top 3 job in America? I give pause to that.
UNC will be removed from this list in the next 5-10 years and that's fantastic. UK is now the place where the pros play, so the MJ shit doesn't mean jack here - It's pointless. juniors in high school never even remember seeing him play, and some recruits weren't even alive. lol. It's a no factor unless there's some illegal benifit from contact with Charlotte. I graduated high school in 2004, and can guarantee Bill Russell would have had no effect on my recruitment. When I was growing up in the 90's, UNC made everyone jealous To an extent because their pros were always just better. Without that, UNC is just Kansas with a few more titles.
Top 3 jobs in America currently should go to the combination of
1. Money
2. Facilities
3. Fans
People severely underestimate how much fans play a role in college basketball.
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Jason Williams was 13 years ago. He could (and perhaps should) have left school after his sophomore season but the culture of early entry wasn't at the level that it is now. I applaud him for caring about graduating and formulating a plan to do so in a three year time frame. As opposed to the zero year degree that guys like Tyus Jones, Karl Anthony Towns, Justise Winslow etc. etc are getting. (And you should as well)
There's nothing really unique about what some members of Duke's faculty may feel about sports than at any other place. I guarantee what's going on in Chapel Hill right now has some faculty members beyond disgusted with athletics.
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Right now I would have to say Kentucky, Duke, Kansas.
In a couple of years it will be Kentucky, Kansas, Duke
After that, who knows? We are coming for you Kentucky.
Our fan bases are equally rabid and our total wins aren't far apart (and I think less far apart after this year).
I acknowledge the discrepency in historic national championships, but our current coaches have one apiece.
In a couple of years it will be Kentucky, Kansas, Duke
After that, who knows? We are coming for you Kentucky.
Our fan bases are equally rabid and our total wins aren't far apart (and I think less far apart after this year).
I acknowledge the discrepency in historic national championships, but our current coaches have one apiece.
First off thats B.S. Duke gets more coverage than Kentucky. ESPN rarely shows UK vs cupcakes but ESPN always shows Duke feasting on sweets.
2nd of all, Most of the people working at ESPN are anti UK. Including the main man running the ship. Unless you think a UNC alum likes UK.
If you can't tell a difference in the way ESPN covers UK and every other top 25 team then you just haven't paid attention. ESPN isn't some grand computer, its ran by people... people who have bias towards and against teams.
Well sure, your post makes sense! The UNC head of ESPN hates UK, but LOVES Duke. Sure.
And excellent point about that Duke TV love. I mean, UK only had... What, 30 national broadcasts last year, and only against teams like powerhouses like 9-23 Mizzou, 15-20 Auburn, and of course Buffalo and Columbia (Ill).
And those ENDLESS bits on the Pursuit of Perfection, and UK game days, and the UK Inside Access? No, they just hate UK but love all the other top 25 teams.
Seriously though, your paranoia is insane. The media loves teams that get attention and ratings, and UK is one of the top schools for that. You guys get as much media coverage as any team in the nation, and more than 99 percent of them. Be thankful, and stop acting like some irrational child.
As per the OP, the Duke job is a great one, obviously. The Duke practice facilities are better than most pro facilities; they are INSANE. Plus, a private school can pay good money to a coach, money that a lot of public schools shy away from. Great facilities, excellent support staff, plenty of money, beautiful campus, a supremely rich alumni base, the ability to promote a top flight education... What's not to like? Seriously, you guys take the Duke hate way overboard sometimes.
You can like making money off of UK and hate UK at the same time. I hate UNC with a passion but if I was offered a job to cover them and make really good money doing it.... yeah sign me up.
by the way those 30 national broadcasts weren't all by ESPN so don't cherry pick that stat. How many games was UK on ESPN , ESPN U or ESPN 2 last year... then tell me how many Duke games were on those channels. Also , SEC network isn't national. If you are out of the SEC you have to buy the sports packages.
Also tell me what media outlet wouldnt cover pursuit of perfect ? You take the one year we did something incredibly great to make a point about ESPN and UK? Try the other 30 years.
Also tell me what media outlet wouldnt cover pursuit of perfect ? You take the one year we did something incredibly great to make a point about ESPN and UK? Try the other 30 years.
Well, these all powerful academians you refer to didn't prevent Gene Banks from enrolling in 1977. Unlike Football, you simply don't need that many players to field a successful Basketball team so you're not making as many exceptions.
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