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Top 3 Candidates After Cal?

This will be a tough decision if Cal retires in the next couple of years. As much as we might think that’s the type of coach our program deserves, there doesn’t appear to be anyone who’s already a surefire hall of famer due to their collection of Final Four banners available. Jay Wright isn’t going to come out of retirement. Brad Stevens and Billy Donovan aren’t leaving the NBA to come back to a college environment that’s much different from how they left it. Dan Hurley probably isn’t going to step away from what appears to be on the verge of becoming a perennial title contender in his home region at his current job. To be honest, I’m not even sure Scott Drew would give up what at this point is probably a lifetime gig at Baylor despite him frequently being assumed to be readily available if we were to call.

That leaves us looking at the tier of candidates who still have something to prove, which is definitely more risky. You might get a young Pitino or Cal (who was an amazing hire at the time even if I think he’s over the hill now), or you might get Gillispie, and there’s no surefire metric for predicting that or else no one would ever hire a flop. That being said, my list would be:

1. Nate Oats- This assumes he would leave Alabama for us, which might not actually be a foregone conclusion, but also doesn’t seem impossible so I’ll include him. Don’t let a couple of close losses in this year’s non-conference schedule convince you he was just a flash in the pan. He’s won the SEC two out of the past three years and currently sits in first place again this year, plays a fun modern style, and recruits at a high level. The only knocks on him are the lack of a tournament run past the Sweet 16 and to some extent the off court stuff from last year. I think he’ll eventually get the former with the kind of teams he’s consistently rolling out. For the latter, I personally don’t view giving too casual of an answer on a delicate subject during a press conference as being the same category as someone like Chris Beard who actually caused the off court problems himself, so I wouldn’t blacklist him over it.

2. Dusty May- He doesn’t have a super long track record, but his teams also play a modern style with good spacing and pace, and you can’t deny that it’s an incredible coaching achievement to have a perennial doormat like Florida Atlantic as a legit top 25 team in back to back years. The biggest question mark is whether he could recruit at the level we expect since he’s not doing that right now albeit with much less in the way of resources and brand recognition to help him. Given the results he’s getting with 3 stars, even a modest improvement in recruiting at a bigger job could pay dividends for him as long as he could get recruits who fit his system though.

3. TJ Otzelberger- A bit more of a wildcard because he has neither a Final Four nor a major conference championship yet, but he’s young and has engineered an impressive turnaround at Iowa State, inheriting a team coming off a 2-22 season and getting them into the tournament in his first year and close to the top 10 by year 3 while playing in likely the best basketball conference in the country during that span. He does play a slower, more defensive oriented style than my other suggestions, which might not sit well with some fans, but you could make an argument that being at Kentucky would give him access to better talent, which would hopefully improve the efficiency.
 
Agree with some that this is a waste of time, but fun nonetheless!

I wrote the following in March 2023

My choice today would be Frank Vogel although some posters on here disagree. Believe he is worth a 5 minute phone call. However, my final choice would be the person who could answer the following.

1. Why do you want this job and what makes you think you are qualified to be the head coach at UK?

2. What is your recruiting philosophy? What do you have to hear/see from a recruit before you offer him a scholarship? How would you build a team through recruiting?

3. What traits do you look for in hiring assistant coaches?

4. The pressure of this job is enormous with the several million coaches, I mean fans, that are hanging on your every word as the coach. How would you cope with this pressure? How would you prepare yourself for this challenge 365 days a year?

5. You only have NBA experience. How does this help you at UK? What are some of the challenges in moving to a college head coaching job?

6. Please state your specific goals for this program as the head coach?
 
Well uptempo play and also has a championship
That championship was the only time he has been past the E8. And he has only been to the E8 3 times. He essentially averages one E8 per decade. He has never won the big 12 tournament and has only ever managed to share the big12 regular season title twice.

The F4 and title he won occured during the covid season. Considering since 2018, Baylor has missed making the tournament, has been knocked out of the 2nd rd 3 times. I think the championship team might have just been a aberration.
 
I've said it every time this is asked. Anyone who puts the UK basketball program first and is driven to dominate college basketball here as their top priority will be an upgrade over the last 6 or so years of Cal.

I can't understand the fear some have to depart from the mediocrity we've had for awhile now.

The time to make the change was when he was possibly leaving for UCLA. The reason is that was pre NIL and the transfer portal and also our program's reputation was still near the top. I think giving that contract to keep Cal was a huge mistake for UK. Although it won't be tough to replace what we've had from Cal for years now, it will be tough to get us back to to where we were.
 
Nobody ever seems to come up with a couple home run replacements. Cal was a sure fire hire.

Cal’s a tough act to follow and he combines a ton of attributes.

Self and Pearl could step in and win plus handle the high profile.

I kinda like Gates at Missouri but it’s a gamble. Dusty May as well.

Cronin is feisty enough to hang in. Beard? Willard? Ford? Still like Pel and Padgett. Pope is doing well and a terrific person. Maybe roll with him?
Ford, Pelphrey, Padgett, and Pope? Why?

And Bill Self isn't leaving Kansas to coach any other school.
 
That championship was the only time he has been past the E8. And he has only been to the E8 3 times. He essentially averages one E8 per decade. He has never won the big 12 tournament and has only ever managed to share the big12 regular season title twice.

The F4 and title he won occured during the covid season. Considering since 2018, Baylor has missed making the tournament, has been knocked out of the 2nd rd 3 times. I think the championship team might have just been a aberration.
Well I guess that's more than what Kentucky has done lately
 
Nobody ever seems to come up with a couple home run replacements. Cal was a sure fire hire.

Cal’s a tough act to follow and he combines a ton of attributes.

Self and Pearl could step in and win plus handle the high profile.

I kinda like Gates at Missouri but it’s a gamble. Dusty May as well.

Cronin is feisty enough to hang in. Beard? Willard? Ford? Still like Pel and Padgett. Pope is doing well and a terrific person. Maybe roll with him?
I approve. Well played.

Here's a real list:

1. Frank Vogel
2. Jodi Fernandez
3. Nick Nurse
4. Dan Hurley
5. Scott Drew
6. Mike Brown
7. JB Bickerstaff
8. Bob Richey
 
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That championship was the only time he has been past the E8. And he has only been to the E8 3 times. He essentially averages one E8 per decade. He has never won the big 12 tournament and has only ever managed to share the big12 regular season title twice.

The F4 and title he won occured during the covid season. Considering since 2018, Baylor has missed making the tournament, has been knocked out of the 2nd rd 3 times. I think the championship team might have just been a aberration.

It's Baylor you goof. A basketball graveyard.

Tweak, I'm ok with Pearl but barnie would never do it.
 
I wouldn’t mind going after Kelvin Sampson or Bruce Pearl, both are as old as Calipari, but you kind of know what you’d be getting for a few years.


There really isn’t a younger homerun out there at the moment. Some of these guys like Lloyd or Oats haven’t won enough yet, and the ones that have, like Drew or Hurley, are rather settled at their current job.
 
Tweddle dee, Tweddle Dumb, Tweddle Dumber, and ............me..........







Nah, you wouldn't want me.......
 
No one over the age of 55. You want a coach that can grow old with the program.

Ideally, but there’s probably gonna be a recruiting lull after Calipari and pressure trying to follow him. With those two, you know you’re getting a coach that can get their kind of players and can win quickly.

Just my opinion and with the lack of younger guys that would come here
 
It's Baylor you goof. A basketball graveyard.

Tweak, I'm ok with Pearl but barnie would never do it.
They are in one of the most talent rich states in the nation and have been recruiting quite well. Baylor has a plethora of wealthy NIL donors from big oil. They play in one of the better P5 conferences. So, what's graveyard about it?
 
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They are in one of the most talent rich states in the nation and have been recruiting quite well. Baylor has a plethora of wealthy NIL donors from big oil. They play in one of the better P5 conferences. So, what's graveyard about it?
Here comes the non-UK fan creating arguments for why no one wants to come to Kentucky.

You've sung this song before, old chap, and no one's buying it.

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Here comes the non-UK fan creating arguments for why no one wants to come to Kentucky.

You've sung this song before, old chap, and no one's buying it.

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Non-uk fan? If that's what you need to tell yourself!

Where have I ever said no on wants to come to UK? Please...point that out! Otherwise, why the need the lie?

What song? I don't sing or play, unfortunately. Would be a nice talent.
 
1. Mark Pope
2. Shaka Smart
3. -

Someone who I'd want but has a 0% chance: Billy Donovan.
This is a realistic list and Pope was up there for me until the corn ball horns down nonsense

I want an uptempo offense bc that’s what Kentucky has been at the peak of each era. It’s who we are and it’s good TV which makes you the “it” program
 
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Pope has never won a conference championship, a conference tournament, or an NCAA game. He's 51 and has been a head coach for 9 seasons. Outside of the fact that he went to UK, please tell me a) how he is championship focused and b) even remotely qualified for a place like UK.

Vogel underperformed in LA and has been a complete failure so far for PHX. I like him but again, if he didn't have UK ties, nobody would be naming him as an option.

This is bonkers land talk.
Thank you so much. I really appreciate your analysis. I’m very disappointed you had no comments about Tony Skinn. Since you know so much so much, why don’t you tell us who the next coach will be because I’m sure whoever you think it’ll be will be the perfect pick.
 
Nobody ever seems to come up with a couple home run replacements. Cal was a sure fire hire.

Cal’s a tough act to follow and he combines a ton of attributes.

Self and Pearl could step in and win plus handle the high profile.

I kinda like Gates at Missouri but it’s a gamble. Dusty May as well.

Cronin is feisty enough to hang in. Beard? Willard? Ford? Still like Pel and Padgett. Pope is doing well and a terrific person. Maybe roll with him?
You’re a terrible poster. Ford as in Travis Ford? 😂
 
Billy Gillespie was a better X and Os coach than cal
He just couldn’t do anything else correctly
 
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