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Tony Bennett retiring, effective immediately.

If you want out of your job bad enough, and you've got the money to go without said job and live comfortably, why not? These kids would leave in a heartbeat for another school if given what they perceived to be a better opportunity, and it IS the NIL that's a problem.
Maybe a kid tried to extort him. There have been rumblings of kids telling coaches before the tournament or bowl games, I want this much or I’m not playing. It put Saban in retirement.
 
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Agree with you 100%. That being said. Why did he sign the extension? Why did he not just quit after his latest flameout due to being offensively challenged as a coach and failing to adapt? He shouldn't have had his staff go out and get transfers or recruits either. He admitted this morning that he was lying since he knew he was thinking of this last year. So he's a liar on top of being selfish? Cool. Glad we got to see the real version come out.

This isn't mandatory. If you don't like how the landscape is, don't have to be a coach. It's funny how many of these guys are more than happy to coach when they have all the control, make millions off the athletes but the second the players get a cut, they don't like the "direction". Yet many of the same people always use other schools/NBA level as a threat to their employers to get more $ out of them. It's business and always has been. Nothing has changed except it's harder for control freak coaches who struggle with adapting to succeed.

Bennett is a perfect reflection of how a package/message delivery style protects him. He's bland and calm when he speaks but that doesn't change what he actually is doing here. If this was a Calipari like coach, imagine the heat that would come from the media (rightfully so too) for the timing and excuses being thrown out.
Hey I know the timing sucks. No denying that but I think we’ve all been at jobs where we had a breaking point to where we just couldn’t do it anymore.
 
Agree with you 100%. That being said. Why did he sign the extension? Why did he not just quit after his latest flameout due to being offensively challenged as a coach and failing to adapt? He shouldn't have had his staff go out and get transfers or recruits either. He admitted this morning that he was lying since he knew he was thinking of this last year. So he's a liar on top of being selfish? Cool. Glad we got to see the real version come out.

This isn't mandatory. If you don't like how the landscape is, don't have to be a coach. It's funny how many of these guys are more than happy to coach when they have all the control, make millions off the athletes but the second the players get a cut, they don't like the "direction". Yet many of the same people always use other schools/NBA level as a threat to their employers to get more $ out of them. It's business and always has been. Nothing has changed except it's harder for control freak coaches who struggle with adapting to succeed.

Bennett is a perfect reflection of how a package/message delivery style protects him. He's bland and calm when he speaks but that doesn't change what he actually is doing here. If this was a Calipari like coach, imagine the heat that would come from the media (rightfully so too) for the timing and excuses being thrown out.
He wasn't thinking last year of quitting just before the season started, if that's the narrative you're trying to paint. He thought about quitting last year, but ultra-competitive people have a difficult time quitting anything they're doing. There's always "just one more" until it all just falls apart. He likely dealt with some nasty situations involving NIL, IMO, and IMO he felt the university wasn't helping the situation from his perspective.
 
100% agreed. This guy doesn't like players getting paid but he is ok with him getting millions and the ncaa and tv networks fat cats taking advantage making billions off the players.

He is a hypocrite and won't get called out on it much by the media. Cal would be crucified if he did this right before a season.
I don't think he said he's not okay with players getting paid. The system is a mess right now, there's no denying it. It's a complete free for all. A guy on UNLV's football team just quit mid year over NIL concerns. This just isn't a sustainable way to run college sports, but unfortunately there's very few things the NCAA can legally do to rein it in right now.

The current system has driven Roy Williams, Coach K, Jay Wright, Nick Saban, and now Tony Bennett to retire. I'm guessing Izzo isn't far behind them. I think the names on that list should tell you this runs deeper than a coach just being a hypocrite about player compensation.
 
I'm not saying it's a conspiracy. I'm saying it's a crappy thing to do.
Some of those players committed to him and now have to make a quick decision to stay or find another school.
He doesn't get to gripe about transfers and then basically transfer himself to retirement. You think he'd be happy if one of his players walked into his office and said, "Hey coach, yeah, I'm done." No, of course not.
Right? But given the landscape it's completely possible for the player to do that. And I think that was his point. Crappy or not, it's his decision. I agree about "committing to him", that part sucks and he as much said that. But he thinks a staff member taking over and having the continuity of the same staff makes that easier for them. This moment would have to come sooner or later as far as that part goes.
That being said, yes, it's his life and he should do what he thinks best for him. However, don't expect everyone to be happy with it or even understand it.

My biggest complaint is his reasoning is crap. Nothing has changed in the landscape of college ball in 4 months for him to say, "Yeah, I'm leaving due to NIL/Transfers" That was the same in June when he signed an extension. He's probably forfeiting a sizable chunk of money to do this though.
Can someone not change their mind? He said it, and I'll take a guy like him at his word.
I just think its ratty to dump your dudes 2 weeks before the season starts for something you knew wasn't changing four months ago when you said you'd keep going. At least start the season with the guys you convinced to come there. If you still feel the same way by Jan. Hang it up. This to me just reeks of "I'm taking my toys and going home."
Hanging it up in the middle of the season is FAR WORSE than doing it now. You think that wouldn't create a major distraction at a bad time? C'mon now. Some of the other stuff I can agree with or at least see. This one is far off.
 
I don't think he said he's not okay with players getting paid. The system is a mess right now, there's no denying it. It's a complete free for all. A guy on UNLV's football team just quit mid year over NIL concerns. This just isn't a sustainable way to run college sports, but unfortunately there's very few things the NCAA can legally do to rein it in right now.

The current system has driven Roy Williams, Coach K, Jay Wright, Nick Saban, and now Tony Bennett to retire. I'm guessing Izzo isn't far behind them. I think the names on that list should tell you this runs deeper than a coach just being a hypocrite about player compensation.
True, but it's not like every coach is crying about it. Just the old guard, and even then, not all of them. Cal is still at it. Self it still at it. So is Few.

Dude is 55 and he just says "I'm done." Seems like he tried it last year (and UVA suuuuucked) and he didn't want to do it again. Fair enough. Leave in June....not October.
 
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Hey I know the timing sucks. No denying that but I think we’ve all been at jobs where we had a breaking point to where we just couldn’t do it anymore.
Sure. But again, not everyone has the freedom to just say I quit without consequences. He's not gonna get a lot of sympathy making millions a year.
 
Completely disagree. Any program worth going to has a roster set and they aren't going to try to integrate some new guy 20 days before their first game. Cal might be the only one to even consider that. Move just screams desperation. Tony Bennett has been doing this a LONG time too, I can't imagine that wasn't discussed and covered. I bet they don't lose a single player that is in the rotation. The dude is just rock solid. People here are too accustomed to dealing with turds like Cal to understand this move is pure.
You don't think a team now that they have run a few practices and needs say a center, or point guard isn't going to be calling some of those kids. And I am willing to bet they do lose a player or two unless their NIL deals are too big.
 
True, but it's not like every coach is crying about it. Just the old guard, and even then, not all of them. Cal is still at it. Self it still at it. So is Few.

Dude is 55 and he just says "I'm done." Seems like he tried it last year (and UVA suuuuucked) and he didn't want to do it again. Fair enough. Leave in June....not October.
I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on timing. It was probably an incredibly difficult decision. I wouldn't be surprised if he fully convinced himself he wanted to come back until one day he realized he didn't. It's not ideal by any stretch, but once he realized he just couldn't give it is all this year it's probably better for the team for the assistant to take over and give it his all than have Bennett return and just half ass it.

And they jury is still out on whether or not Cal is "still at it" lol
 
I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on timing. It was probably an incredibly difficult decision. I wouldn't be surprised if he fully convinced himself he wanted to come back until one day he realized he didn't. It's not ideal by any stretch, but once he realized he just couldn't give it is all this year it's probably better for the team for the assistant to take over and give it his all than have Bennett return and just half ass it.

And they jury is still out on whether or not Cal is "still at it" lol

Well, true, but Cal is still recruiting like he's still at it anyway. lol

I think it's just the reasoning that bugs me most. Like, no one cares man. That's the way it is now and you make millions to do it.
He's even done the hard part of the recruiting for this year. If he doesn't want to continue that part I get it; send someone else. Announce you're done at years end. Teach the game this year and hang it up.

Just, bizarre timing to me.
 
He wasn't thinking last year of quitting just before the season started, if that's the narrative you're trying to paint. He thought about quitting last year, but ultra-competitive people have a difficult time quitting anything they're doing. There's always "just one more" until it all just falls apart. He likely dealt with some nasty situations involving NIL, IMO, and IMO he felt the university wasn't helping the situation from his perspective.
You can spray all the flowers you want on the timing of this-it's bull****. He quit. Quit on the players he had his staff recruit from HS and the Portal. Quit weeks before things get started. Quit because he didn't like something. Not because it's right/wrong. He just didn't like it. Other coaches who left did so in a manner that allowed their programs to move forward with a plan. This guy bailed because.....he didn't like how things are. Well I along with several others hated watching his teams play and felt his style of play was a cancer on the sport. Did that mean he shouldn't have a job? No. Did that mean others can't enjoy it? No. So we all don't get what we want.

Everyone deals with situations and the job is hard. He quit. So he doesn't have to worry about this or ever taking part in coaching CBB again.

Quitters quit. Competitive people compete and act in a manner that they ask their players and staff to do. If you want out, there's a way to handle things, this isn't it. The only time someone should leave at this time is if they have done something to warrant being fired or if they have a major health or family matter that is more important. Quitting because you don't like how the game is now? Nothing about that is competitive or "ultra competitive".
 
I like Tony B. as a human being and Christian. I didn’t particularly enjoy watching UVA but it was a system effective for the type of recruits he was getting and looking for . His system to be good he needs players to buy in and play there for multiple years.

The new environment I am sure would make his system more difficult. However , the timing of this was horrible. I listened to his presser and his reasoning that he really didn’t have time to think about it until fall break seemed genuine but I don’t think is good enough if you are an uva fan.
 
I don't think he said he's not okay with players getting paid. The system is a mess right now, there's no denying it. It's a complete free for all. A guy on UNLV's football team just quit mid year over NIL concerns. This just isn't a sustainable way to run college sports, but unfortunately there's very few things the NCAA can legally do to rein it in right now.

The current system has driven Roy Williams, Coach K, Jay Wright, Nick Saban, and now Tony Bennett to retire. I'm guessing Izzo isn't far behind them. I think the names on that list should tell you this runs deeper than a coach just being a hypocrite about player compensation.

Most of those dudes are old as dirt anyways so they should have been retired or about ready to. The bizarre thing with coaches, politicians and sports commentators working until they literally kill over has always amused me.
 
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I get what you’re saying from an outsiders opinion- but would you feel the same if Cal stuck around this summer, then retired weeks before the season and we had Brusier as an interim coach lol
I’d have been pissed that Cal stuck around this summer. I’d still have been glad that he left, April 10 or October 18.
 
Can you imagine a guy like Bobby Knight coaching in the NIL era?
He wouldn’t have lasted a week. Hell, Knight’s autocratic coaching style had already become an out-of-place anachronism by the late 90s, I couldn’t even imagine him trying to deal with the kids of the 2020’s and their agents making NIL demands.

But the same applies to most of those of those hard ass old school coaches like Bear Bryant, Woody Hayes, Adolph Rupp, etc. The way they coached worked damn well for their era …but it wouldn’t fly today.
 
My go to example to show how much of winning the tournament is luck.
There's the luck component, but luck doesn't get you six straight games or to be in a position to win at the end of a game against a great opponent. You still need a great coach and team to do that.

The tournament weeds out the pretenders eventually. Your buddy Calipari relied too much on talent, and forgot that on top of talent, the biggest part of the tournament is mental preparation, skill, continuity, and game planning.
 
He wouldn’t have lasted a week. Hell, Knight’s autocratic coaching style had already become an out-of-place anachronism by the late 90s, I couldn’t even imagine him trying to deal with the kids of the 2020’s and their agents making NIL demands.

But the same applies to most of those of those hard ass old school coaches like Bear Bryant, Woody Hayes, Adolph Rupp, etc. The way they coached worked damn well for their era …but it wouldn’t fly today.

Knights problem was he had a tendency to lash out physically. That barely flew in his time. It definitely wouldn't (and shouldn’t) fly today. Big difference in giving a kid a love tap on the head for doing something stupid and choking a player or stomping on his foot. Knight was a very good x and o coach. But he also could be a very mean person.
 
With the new rule of national letter of intent being obsolete it’s going to probably run more out. Transfer portal, NIL, and now NLI gone. What’s left? Hell, a kid can say he’s coming then the day before showing up go somewhere else to the highest bidder. Don’t blame coaches for saying **** this
 
If I were the UVA admin or fan, I’d be super pissed off right now. Yeah, the current state of college bball is crazy but he knew that 6 months ago. Waiting for late October is a terrible look for him, if there is no health/family issue.
Yeah…my son was a UVA attendee and though I couldn’t bring myself to watch them, this is awful timing and a real betrayal to those players.
 
Life is too short to mess around if your heart's not in something. The "right timing" of this in the eyes of the general public is irrelevant. What matters is what Bennett wants and what his family wants and needs.

We'll forget about this as a story by next week, but Tony's life is his and he needs to do what is best for him.

Getting out now if he knows his heart isn't it is a good move. Also helps ensure one of his assistants gets the job. Calhoun retired about 2 months before the season and essentially did the same thing.
That’s a completely selfish view on living. Life’s too short to do the right thing, just do what’s best for you and yours is what you’re saying.
 
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That’s a completely selfish view on living. Life’s too short to do the right thing, just do what’s best for you and yours is what you’re saying.
Nah, but it's groovy that you're turning this into a moral crusade.

You have no idea what "the right thing to do" is for his family.

Your interpretation of what I'm saying is horrifically off track. For one, you're assuming you know why he made this choice, both his private outlook and his public outlook. You're also assuming your view of the "right thing" is objectively true. This isn't stopping a genocide. It's resigning as a basketball coach. Get a grip on the stakes here.

You really don't have a clue.
 
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Nah, but it's groovy that you're turning this into a moral crusade.

You have no idea what "the right thing to do" is for his family.

Your interpretation of what I'm saying is horrifically off track. For one, you're assuming you know why he made this choice, both his private outlook and his public outlook. You're also assuming your view of the "right thing" is objectively true. This isn't stopping a genocide. It's resigning as a basketball coach. Get a grip on the stakes here.

You really don't have a clue.
Nah, but it's groovy that you're turning this into a moral crusade.

You have no idea what "the right thing to do" is for his family.

Your interpretation of what I'm saying is horrifically off track. For one, you're assuming you know why he made this choice, both his private outlook and his public outlook. You're also assuming your view of the "right thing" is objectively true. This isn't stopping a genocide. It's resigning as a basketball coach. Get a grip on the stakes here.

You really don't have a clue.
Certainly have more than a clue. You said exactly, what he wants and what his family wants and needs are what matters. Again, per your take, doing the right thing isn’t what matters.
 
Certainly have more than a clue. You said exactly, what he wants and what his family wants and needs are what matters. Again, per your take, doing the right thing isn’t what matters.
So not doing what's best for your family or yourself is the "right thing?" I mentioned "right timing", and I used quotations marks to indicate that the timing of leaving a basketball team is totally up to the coach. Our perception of the timing is irrelevant. Those were my actual words: "right timing." You did a horrible job of interpreting my position in your response.

Speaking of doing the "right thing." You get to determine what that is? Adhering to your arbitrary moral standards of how to handle leaving a basketball team is the "right thing?"

It's cool that you, as some random message board poster, know what the "right thing" is for someone you've never met, when they should step down, and precisely how.
 
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This guy had the luckiest title run in recent history as well. That Purdue game and then the auburn choke job come to mind. They also avoided a tougher opponent n UK due to the classic Cal March choke job.
Auburn didn’t choke. Refs failed to call double dribble on UVA’s last possession .
 
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