The cats need a physical presence down in the post who will grind and bang. I like Skal & Lee but they are finesse players.It's time to start Poy.
Time to start Poythress at the PF
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Hard to keep up with all of these sites that you troll?
Why wont your home team (Maryland) let you post there?
I know UNC is tired of your sucking up act on both of theirs.
According to another thread poythress is a bust, or beast. In all seriousness I like poy coming off the bench, he adds a spark. I'm anxious to see what waynard brings to the table when he gets here. I don't expect much right away but I think he could add valuable minutes.
What games have you been watching. Poy has had plenty of chances down low near the post and baseline. When watching him against UCLA in critical times I saw the same issues that have been observed throughout his career; taking a bad angle to the basket, undercutting the rim rather than elevating above, and being a second late and fouling rather than gaining defensive position. I am not saying he doesn't have his great moments as well or isn't a decent college player. But after all this time of pretty much the same thing, the beast mode is a nice fantasy but history of observable play suggests that this isn't going to commonly occur.
What I find is that our team still need to define their roles better. Murray should be the lead offensive choice, and I would be interested in seeing the combination of Humphries and Skal together. Humphries should not be taking the option of being an offensive force. But, he held his own against a very experienced and decent player in Plumlee. He should play a similar role, concentrating on rebounding, put backs, but not trying to do a bunch of short shots, or even dribbling that often. Be the force in the middle with Skal playing face-up. Poy can be an energy guy off the bench and if playing well in for more minutes. But, start? No.
I am not sold on what I saw with the New Zealand kid, but let's keep our fingers crossed that he has developed since that international tourney months ago and isn't afraid to play physical. He might be what we need as well if that is the case.
What I find is that our team still need to define their roles better. Murray should be the lead offensive choice, and I would be interested in seeing the combination of Humphries and Skal together. Humphries should not be taking the option of being an offensive force. But, he held his own against a very experienced and decent player in Plumlee. He should play a similar role, concentrating on rebounding, put backs, but not trying to do a bunch of short shots, or even dribbling that often. Be the force in the middle with Skal playing face-up. Poy can be an energy guy off the bench and if playing well in for more minutes. But, start? No.
I am not sold on what I saw with the New Zealand kid, but let's keep our fingers crossed that he has developed since that international tourney months ago and isn't afraid to play physical. He might be what we need as well if that is the case.
What's it matter who starts? Total minutes and minutes in key situations is what truly counts. 6th men in the NBA are some of the most important on an a roster.
LOL . And no OP Lee is the better player this season so far. We might not have beaten UCLA with Lee but it would of been a 1-2 pt loss at most.
No matter what, he can't be worse than Townes he walked too slow and was too lazy to spell his name right
Marcus Lee has been our most consistent post player so far. He's probably more of a lock to start than Skal at this point.
Physicality hasn't been that much of a concern. Going into the UCLA game, we had out- rebounded every opponent and won every game by double digits.
Against UCLA, Lee was injured almost immediately and Poythress was limited because of foul trouble. Those two guys play their normal minutes and we likely have a different outcome.
On the year, Lee is averaging 13.5 rebounds per 40 minutes and Poy is averaging 12.5. They are both spending the bulk of their time at the 4. Nice combo.
For comparison sake, Anthony Davis averaged 13 rebounds per 40 minutes his 1 year here.
Against UCLA, Lee was injured almost immediately and Poythress was limited because of foul trouble. Those two guys play their normal minutes and we likely have a different outcome.
On the year, Lee is averaging 13.5 rebounds per 40 minutes and Poy is averaging 12.5. They are both spending the bulk of their time at the 4. Nice combo.
For comparison sake, Anthony Davis averaged 13 rebounds per 40 minutes his 1 year here.
Think we play position-less basketball. The old 1,2,3,4,5 -or- pg, sg, sf, pf & c became history when Cal started designing plays with salt & pepper shakers ;-) Btw - This is all in jest.
Poy is the most overrated player in UK history. That's not ment to put him down. He is an average college player and I'm fine with that. If the cats get 6&6 from him I'm happy.
How's Lee progressing? I imagine he's fine, although a concussion could keep him out a bit longer. I ask because if Lee is anything less than 100%, then yes, we need Poy down low. And not even to be some 15/12 guy... just to sop up some fouls and keep what little respect we have as a frontcourt from vanishing.
Even when Lee is 100%.. we still need more beef down low. I know people don't want to see Poythress under the hoop, but we are really thin down there. He may have to adjust. And this means more minutes for Matthews and the guard-trio to play the 1-3. All this Booker talk makes me realize that we NEED our guards to get as many minutes as possible to get their shots going.
Even when Lee is 100%.. we still need more beef down low. I know people don't want to see Poythress under the hoop, but we are really thin down there. He may have to adjust. And this means more minutes for Matthews and the guard-trio to play the 1-3. All this Booker talk makes me realize that we NEED our guards to get as many minutes as possible to get their shots going.
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Don't want to hijack the thread but saying he is the most overrated in history is very questionable. I don't know how far back you go but 2 names that quickly come to my mind without much thought are Richard Madison and Derrick Hord. I'm sure there are others as well.
Derrick Hord was one of the best, and most promising players in the SEC as a junior. He was utterly ruined by the one-and-only Joe B. Hall. It's a long story, but I'd be glad to get into it.
Similarly, Alex Poythress has been ruined by the one-and-only John Calipari, who spent three seasons trying to play Alex out of position at the "3".
Now . . . c'mon, all of y'all Calipari apologists. Have at it !
Similarly, Alex Poythress has been ruined by the one-and-only John Calipari, who spent three seasons trying to play Alex out of position at the "3".
Now . . . c'mon, all of y'all Calipari apologists. Have at it !
Key phrase: "right now". The only way to change his state of play right now is to keep playing him until he gets more comfortable. He's already about three solid plays/game away from being exactly what UK needs him to be this season.
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Aike, why do you stubbornly insist on continuing to mention that Lee didn't play against UCLA for the last 30 minutes of the game? Don't you know that doesn't help the "our team sucks" narrative that the tuck tail and run crowd has been spinning?
Dain Bramage!!
You gonna far ole Cal thar for us, Rip boy? Hell, he dun lost us a game last year and lost anudder one afor Christmas this year.
You gonna git us back that thar Billy Clyde. Now thar was a hard drankin boy that put them ball players in their stall. Har har har.
Actually, he's probably knocked down more players this year than anyone else. He's about the only guy we have that can actually get position.
Considering his incredible results as our coach, I have to seriously question any UK fan who isn't a Cal apologist. What more can the guy do?
Ummmm no. Don't you remember the beast in practice that needed up at Oklahoma state never to be heard of again
Our most prized recruit in years before Calipari was Patrick Patterson. Billy Clyde almost ruined him and played him at center and occasionally PF. Cal took him away from the basket and made him be confident in his shot. Hell at one point Patterson had the best three point % in th NBA besides guards......look what he did with AD, towns, and now skal. He is trying to help them with the parts of their games they struggle with. Poythress was actually a good shooter his freshman year. Do you remember how Poythress played early last year and in Bahamas? Besides his injury. All of Poythress shortcomings are on him. Let's say for one second he has been a PF this whole time, Do you think he would be any better? He still takes plays off. Just like Darius and WCS ......we all as UK fans know their talent and know their abilities..... but all,cost us wins in their career. But at the same point, neither would have been drafted where they were without Cal and staff
Uhhhh...it doesn't work like that.
Adjusted +/- per possession is essentially UK's points per possession - opponent's points per possession. It already includes contributions from offensive rebounds, defensive rebounds, and blocks. By averaging the ranking like you did, you practically put scoring margin on par with block percentage.
